Can the Americans beat the Czechs and the Russians?
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CSKA said:sorry after reading that stuff i say you've never seen Malkin play
You would, you're in his fanclub. No, I actually have several of his games in avi fomat in a folder labeled Metallurg Magnitogorsk right in front of me.
People like saying Malkin's name, but only a handful have seen him play. Again, he is no Ovechkin, and has flubbed on more breakaways and point blank one timer attempts than he's scored on.
That was addressed to the confused guy that wrote that Malkin was better than Kessel. Which is inaccurate if you've seen them both play. And I have.
Kessel >>>>> Malkin
Now that that's settled, maybe we can get back to the original thread topic.
Rush5Collapse5 said:
I also don't believe Malkin is at Ovechkin's level. However, I don't honestly think Kessell has had a single game in this tournament where he has been the best player on his own team.
Malkin is considered by many to be the greatest player outside of the National Hockey League.
Kessell is arguably not even the best player in the NCAA's.
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TransportedUpstater said:
You missed him showcase his ability in the Norway and Finland games apparently. Kessel brought fans out of their seats with rushes, and dazzled the crowd with shifty moves down low. A better of set of hands or wheels I've yet to see in the WJC.
This should really be it's own seperate topic. I think the thread has been derailed enough.
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Rush5Collapse5 said:
the biggest and dangerous part in Malkins game is creating plays ! You will probably never see such fency moves ala Ovy or Crosby but damn Malkin creates so many chances its just insane !
Rush5Collapse5 said:
Hmm you will not finde many people who thinks the same way
CSKA said:
Stylistically, Malkin reminds me of a former Montreal Canadien named Jean Beliveau.
I'm a big Malkin fan. I don't believe he is at Ovechkin's caliber, but if I was Russian, Malkin would make me proud of my heritage.
Instead, I'm Italian. We don't know hockey, but we never refuse favors on the day of our daughter's weddings!
Rush5Collapse5 said:
Sorry, but Malkin is considered the best player outside the NHL. Malkin and Kessel are only a year apart in age, but I have never heard anyone say Kessel is considered the best prospect outside the NHL. Not even close.
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On the topic of USA-Russia, I'd be wondering most about the unpredictability of the goaltending. Schneider had about the best (read: only good) game I've ever seen him play, and he still looked like he had rough edges that could have been exploited by a more talented team than Canada. And Khuddobin still has a rep as a guy that can steal games or be absolutely brutal. There are plenty of ways such a matchup could go of course, regardless of the goaltending, but I can't help but wondering if that will play a big role.
The US team is not overrated on its own merit....we easily COULD have beaten Canada (heck, we CONCEDED the game more than were beaten) and we are good enough to win it all.
I think it's just that with all the talk about Russia and the US, people forgot that Canada is always as good as anyone else. So the United States lost 3-2 in a hostile Canadian environment after pulling the goalie when a tie was likely. Not exactly mediocrity.
I think it's just that with all the talk about Russia and the US, people forgot that Canada is always as good as anyone else. So the United States lost 3-2 in a hostile Canadian environment after pulling the goalie when a tie was likely. Not exactly mediocrity.
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HabLover said:
That might have a little something to do with the fact he hasn't even been drafted yet
.Wow, imagine if there was a team from south Africa what he could have done to them.. Norway ... bwaaaaRush5Collapse5 said:
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shakes said:
Do some research into his posting history. He claims to be a fan of Team Canada, but spends far more time starting threads\making posts to tear down\belittle the American team than he does celebrating the good things Canada does.
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To get backt o the topic of the thread: of course, the US can make the finals. They are a very talented and experienced squad. The question is not can they but will they do so.
I think they would be clear favourites against the Czechs. A US/Russia game would be a tossup in my opinion. On the one hand, the US might be tired from playing the extra game but, by the same token, the Russians might be a little rusty from the layoff and might take a few, possibly vital, minutes to get going. On the basis of the little I've seen the two players, I think Malkin, as a 19 year old, is a slightly better player than the 18 year old Kessel. But, as usual, the key players in a tight game will be the goalies. The Russian netminder has better stats but that may be misleading and be dependent on the quality of opponents.
Nobody can tell right now. I would never put real money on the game but very hesitantly, I might put my hypothetical cash behind the Americans. The US has already had its off game and the Russians have not yet done so. Maybe the semifinal game would be it.
I think they would be clear favourites against the Czechs. A US/Russia game would be a tossup in my opinion. On the one hand, the US might be tired from playing the extra game but, by the same token, the Russians might be a little rusty from the layoff and might take a few, possibly vital, minutes to get going. On the basis of the little I've seen the two players, I think Malkin, as a 19 year old, is a slightly better player than the 18 year old Kessel. But, as usual, the key players in a tight game will be the goalies. The Russian netminder has better stats but that may be misleading and be dependent on the quality of opponents.
Nobody can tell right now. I would never put real money on the game but very hesitantly, I might put my hypothetical cash behind the Americans. The US has already had its off game and the Russians have not yet done so. Maybe the semifinal game would be it.
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tsar said:Wow, imagine if there was a team from south Africa what he could have done to them.. Norway ... bwaaaa
Hey how's Toews doin on the scoring leaders list at the WJC's?
US needs to bury the czechs early and stay out of the penalty box. it's a weak team with only 2 lines and one set of d.
would be nice to see kessel actually score a goal in the tournament, wouldn't it?
if kyle plays only 4 d in the czech game, the russians will have a good shot at attacking the us d which will wear down.
would be nice to see kessel actually score a goal in the tournament, wouldn't it?
if kyle plays only 4 d in the czech game, the russians will have a good shot at attacking the us d which will wear down.
Kessel get sme excited everytime he touches the puck. He may not be better than malkin but I do not think they play the same game. No matter how you slice it kessel is going to be an excellent NHL player.
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Rush5Collapse5 said:
QUite honestly, at this point and for the future:
Malkin>Ovechkin...
It appears to me you are saying that Kessel is better than Malkin? Well Im no expert on Kessel, I have only seen him play this World Juniors (every game) and from what I saw: Malkin>>>Kessel.
Rush5Collapse5 said:Hey how's Toews doin on the scoring leaders list at the WJC's?
I don't think Kessel has scored yet has he?
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HabLover said:
Naw he's content with being tied for the WJC scoring lead with Malkin with 8 dazzling assists that silenced the critics that he only scored goals.
How's Toews doin?
Kessel's weak showing (over half his points on the PP against NORWAY) has shown he isn't in the same ballpark as Crosby, Ovechkin and Malkin...... and he was only 3 weeks away from being in last years draft. He is nothing more than an average, every year 1st overall hopeful.Rush5Collapse5 said:That might have a little something to do with the fact he hasn't even been drafted yet
On topic, USA beats the Czechs then goes home against the Russians leaving a Canada - Russia final.
with 5 dazzles against power house like Norway ... so basicly 3 pointsRush5Collapse5 said:Naw he's content with being tied for the WJC scoring lead with Malkin with 8 dazzling assists that silenced the critics that he only scored goals.
How's Toews doin?
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ryz said:
You wouldn't guess "average" by listening to Pierre Mcguire who is quoted saying after a crowd raising move "Kessel is electrifying".
TransportedUpstater said:
This is media-driven BS. I can count at least 10 Euro players better than him. Being so young, he has the potential of becoming the best though
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