Can Elias Pettersson get back to 100 point form if he gains more muscle this summer?

[tiburon12]

Pettersson seems like a prime candidate for moving to a place with sunshine year round. My uncertified diagnosis is that he is affected by lack of sunlight and would be physically better if he left a un-sunny city like Vancouver

 

[Acallabeth]

While I agree that lack of muscle doesn't seem to be the biggest Petersson's problem, he'll be 27 next season. It's the age when physical prime comes to an end for many men, particularly when the player wasn't an exceptional athlete in the first place. So hitting the gym may be far more necessary than even a couple of years ago.

So, I believe in Elias and would take him on Washington retained for AA, CMM, the 1st and the 2nd.

 

[Coffee]

Pettersson seems like a prime candidate for moving to a place with sunshine year round. My uncertified diagnosis is that he is affected by lack of sunlight and would be physically better if he left a un-sunny city like Vancouver

Hey! We have had sun this month

 

[MoneyManny]

Maybe after they sacrifice another one of his teammates to the Hockey gods. After Bo Horvat and JT Miller the only one powerful enough to break the curse is Quinn Hughes.

 

[Coffee]

the only one powerful enough to break the curse is Quinn Hughes.

Caufield and 3 firsts

50+ minutes of Hughes/Hutson

Throw in Slaf?

 

[KAWAIlllI]

I'd say no. He's not "there" mentally, and I think the shift to which the focus is on (rightfully so) Hughes instead of him rubs him the wrong way, sadly. In Sweden, he's known to be a great performer on the ice, but less so in the dressingroom or as a teammate, so all the issues that were going on this and last season is on him and his mind, not his strength.

Hes in the same physical "sphere" as Marner, Panarin and other weak-ish playmakers, and they can still score points and make an impact, so..

 

[Leafshater67]

175 lbs at 6’2 is wild. People like DeBrincat get called small but he’s heavier at like 5’7. There’s no way 10-15 pounds of muscle wouldn’t help this guy.

 

[ijuka]

The only muscle he needs to work on is his heart.

 

[MoneyManny]

Caufield and 3 firsts

50+ minutes of Hughes/Hutson

Throw in Slaf?

I feel like Pettersson's tragic demeanor would suck the life out of Caufield's Golden Retriever personality lol.

 

[bobholly39]

He's played at 100 point pace once out of 7 seasons, gonna go with no, chief.

I still think the answer is yes.

"Can" he? He's always had a high ceiling, the problem is putting forth a consistent season in top form.

I'm not saying he's necessarily going to do that next year - but it's possible. He definitely has some mental issues, motivation etc - and maybe physical limitation too like OP implies. But he's of those players in the league I could totally hit 100+ points one year.

 

[McFlash97]

If that muscle mass is in his brain sure..

 

[Grifter3511]

Maybe after they sacrifice another one of his teammates to the Hockey gods. After Bo Horvat and JT Miller the only one powerful enough to break the curse is Quinn Hughes.

Horvat was sacrificied for JT Miller.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

he said "strength" is not something that comes easily for him. He believes he needs to add strength. I think his noggin cannot get any larger since hes already tipping over a lot on skates. having a stronger set of legs is priority.

so Yes. he can get back to 100 point form if he get Foppa/Crosby legs.

He's gonna be 27 later this year. By that age as an athlete if he hasn’t put on muscle that he needs to be playing better then that isn’t going to be something that is going to help him.

I think the two seasons before this were maybe an outlier and he’s more the 60-70pt type of player.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

175 lbs at 6’2 is wild. People like DeBrincat get called small but he’s heavier at like 5’7. There’s no way 10-15 pounds of muscle wouldn’t help this guy.

Marcus Pettersson is 6’5” and barely scrapes 180lbs. He plays like a warrior in comparison. If being a weak ass wanker was a disease, Elias has it in spades.

 

[miscs75]

Which one is he?

 

[BobCole]

100 point player again? Difficult to say. But he's clearly better than what we've seen from him lately. As somebody with no dog in the fight, I hope for his/his team's/hockey's sake that he gets it back. Guy has a ton of skill.

 

[ItWasJustified]

If he trains this summer and gains muscle mass

He might get 2-4 lbs pure muscle mass over the summer. It won't do anything.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

i think his problem is mostly mental

This. I haven’t seen enough shift by shift effort from Pettersson the last two seasons.
Also a ton of his points in 2022 to 2024 came against really bad teams. He was great at blowing up San Jose and Anaheim but going MIA versus the best teams.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Even if he gets himself in peak condition, I don't know if he is in the right scenario to net 100 points again. It's basically him and Hughes as top end players now.

 

[MoneyManny]

Even if he gets himself in peak condition, I don't know if he is in the right scenario to net 100 points again. It's basically him and Hughes as top end players now.

If Petey finds his game again, Quinn Hughes is plenty good enough to carry him to 100 pts by himself. His problem has never been a lack of talent.

 

[Regal]

This. I haven’t seen enough shift by shift effort from Pettersson the last two seasons.
Also a ton of his points in 2022 to 2024 came against really bad teams. He was great at blowing up San Jose and Anaheim but going MIA versus the best teams.

He did have some blowup games against weak opponents but I don’t know if his splits are much different than most stars those 2 years.

He had a line of 79-29-53-82 against playoff teams and 83-44-65-109 against non-playoff teams.

 

[Raistlin]

He's gonna be 27 later this year. By that age as an athlete if he hasn’t put on muscle that he needs to be playing better then that isn’t going to be something that is going to help him.

I think the two seasons before this were maybe an outlier and he’s more the 60-70pt type of player.

60-70 is definitely his floor. His speed and shot velocity has decreased significantly, and he was very obviously refusing to shoot. His shot being his main weapon in previous years. strength will help him power through checks to playmake and deke. but his knee and wrist were heavily hampered in the past 2 years... leading to him getting the yips. IF he gains strength, hopefully things will snowball.

 

[Captain97]

No, but could see him hit 85

 

[Invalid cuz QoC]

Only if he gets on the sauce. Few months ain’t shit to get strong. Stay on the sauce for couple years and now we’re cooking. Source: 8 years powerlifting religiously and stronger than most hockey players.

 

[Siludin]

I'd say no. He's not "there" mentally, and I think the shift to which the focus is on (rightfully so) Hughes instead of him rubs him the wrong way, sadly. In Sweden, he's known to be a great performer on the ice, but less so in the dressingroom or as a teammate, so all the issues that were going on this and last season is on him and his mind, not his strength.

Hes in the same physical "sphere" as Marner, Panarin and other weak-ish playmakers, and they can still score points and make an impact, so..

I do think that he was a bit miffed when they passed over him for Captain, but he deserved the pass-over, and he has probably been a bit in the dumps over it. You recall when Horvat left he said Pettersson should be captain, and I think part of that stuck with him. Lots of projections had Pettersson as the new C.
The JT Miller thing was another layer. Miller liked to play Captain even when he wasn't, and in that Horvat void, although Miller did push Pettersson to be a better player, when it blew up, and JT left, I think Pettersson was a bit depressed because he felt A. responsible and B. unable to fill those shoes, and a believed reality set in that he isn't the type of leader he thought he was, whether it was true or not - a symptom of abuse. I think he can be a leader but it's going to exclusively be through good play. Emotionally I think he did turn the corner at the end of the season, before suffering a legitimate physical injury.
So the Canucks have franchise-level talent who is both physically and mentally fragile. I think the mental part is beginning to sort itself out, and I hope he can compress it all into a diamond.
On the physical side, he just needs to work on it in the summer and have some good luck next year.