Cameras in the crossbar and on the blueline

[Jacquestrapless]

Just in time for the playoffs

 

[FLYLine27*]

Let the games...BEGIN!!!

 

[BonMorrison]

Awesome

 

[kingsholygrail]

In before the first inconclusive controversial call even with the cameras.

 

[Crossbar]

I assume the linesmen will still be standing on the blueline, so won't they be blocking the camera?

 

[tsanuri]

I assume the linesmen will still be standing on the blueline, so won't they be blocking the camera?

It's not pictured but they said there would be one on each side. So there's hope both won't be blocked at the same time.

 

[flyguy]

I wonder if they'd be able to put cameras where the post meets the crossbar as well. More chances for an unobstructed view of the goal line.

 

[Lehner]

This is a start but still absolutely dumb the NHL doesnt have optical technology where a goal is never a debate.

 

[Lehner]

I assume the linesmen will still be standing on the blueline, so won't they be blocking the camera?

linesman don't stand on the blue line either, they stand just outside the offensive zone.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Should be interesting to see the views, but at the base of each post would really help for goal calls.

Cameras in the posts and crossbar is such an obvious (but still limited) solution for goal calls. I've been talking about that for years so it will be cool to see.

 

[PRMan]

This is a start but still absolutely dumb the NHL doesnt have optical technology where a goal is never a debate.

You could put a chip in the puck that senses everything a cellphone does and there would never be any doubt ever again.

 

[ichabod13]

You could put a chip in the puck that senses everything a cellphone does and there would never be any doubt ever again.

where exactly would you put the chip? seeing as how the entire puck has to cross the line, putting it dead centre wouldnt help. you would have to put chips all around the outer diameter of the puck with each chip being numbered or coded. the first chip to cross the line trips the sensor and the chip number or code is recorded. then the last chip to cross the line has its number or code recorded. look at it like a clock, twelve chips numbered just like a clock. if chip number six trips the sensor but chip number twelve doesnt, then its not a goal. if chip four trips the sensor, chip 10 better be the last chip to cross the line.
and seeing as how the chips would be getting smacked pretty hard with sticks, they better be able to take a beating man.........

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

You could put a chip in the puck that senses everything a cellphone does and there would never be any doubt ever again.

That's also a lot of technology that goes flying into the stands, so I don't think it would be very cost effective.

 

[Oil Gauge]

I assume the linesmen will still be standing on the blueline, so won't they be blocking the camera?

They don't stand on the line. They are supposed to stand on either side of the line. Which ever is opposite of the puck.

 

[ElysiumAB]

Both cameras were completely useless in the Wings/Tampa offside call. One camera couldn't even see the puck since it was along the boards, the other camera was blocked by the linesman. The video quality of both of them was atrocious.

 

[Oil Gauge]

Both cameras were completely useless in the Wings/Tampa offside call. One camera couldn't even see the puck since it was along the boards, the other camera was blocked by the linesman. The video quality of both of them was atrocious.

The one camera confirmed that his back skate was off the ice.

 

[The Cheat]

In the crossbar should be one in each corner not just the center

 

[SLang]

where exactly would you put the chip? seeing as how the entire puck has to cross the line, putting it dead centre wouldnt help. you would have to put chips all around the outer diameter of the puck with each chip being numbered or coded. the first chip to cross the line trips the sensor and the chip number or code is recorded. then the last chip to cross the line has its number or code recorded. look at it like a clock, twelve chips numbered just like a clock. if chip number six trips the sensor but chip number twelve doesnt, then its not a goal. if chip four trips the sensor, chip 10 better be the last chip to cross the line.
and seeing as how the chips would be getting smacked pretty hard with sticks, they better be able to take a beating man.........

Your theory fails when the puck spins.

 

[ichabod13]

Your theory fails when the puck spins.

no it doesnt.
if there are twelve chips and only eleven cross the line, its not a goal.

 

[Avder]

You wouldn't even need more than two chips. One to track position, one to track orientation. Using the orientation of the puck, you can then figure out the exact distance the location chip needs to be behind the goal plane for a goal to have scored. Probably have both of em wired up on the same embedded watch battery and toss em in the dead puck bin if they somehow stay in play for longer than 10 minutes.

It's been how long since the fox trax puck? Have to imagine the technology to put chips in pucks is a lot more advanced now than it was back in the 90s. Chips cost practically nothing to fabricate. All you need is to incorporate the technology into the puck manufacturing process in such a way that the dimensions and average density of the puck remains the same. Probably just need a couple heavy metal bb's in the middle to offset the lower density of the chips and battery.

 

[Iceman]

Not sure how the crossbar will help show where the puck is if the goalie is covering it. I guess it could help if the ref don't make it to behind the net in time for the goalie to reach back and grab the puck back.

 

[Avder]

Another place they could potentially put a camera is at the very base of the back of the net. If they also put cameras at the base of the posts, well maybe you've got a shot at seeing if the goalie sat on the puck in time or if it crossed the line before his ass froze it.

 

[ichabod13]

You wouldn't even need more than two chips. One to track position, one to track orientation.
1) Using the orientation of the puck, you can then figure out the exact distance the location chip needs to be behind the goal plane for a goal to have scored.

2) Probably have both of em wired up on the same embedded watch battery and toss em in the dead puck bin if they somehow stay in play for longer than 10 minutes.

1) what happens if both chips cross the line at the same time?
2) what if the 10:00 expiration date hits while the puck is still in play and a goal is scored 0:30 later? what if a penalty is called after the 10:00 expiration date?

believe me here man, im all for getting calls right. ive seen my favourite team get screwed over by bad calls time and time again. but it seems like every time the NHL ( or any sport ) tries to "perfect" their officiating, the more cans of worms they open. no matter what they do, it will raise another issue.

sports ( and life in general ) will always have "human error" involved. and the more you try to correct it, the more you **** it up.

 

[Harv]

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

would've been hilarious if the linesman was blocking the camera at that moment