Rumor: Cam Robinson " I spoke to GM's on what the price is for Boeser" .... 1st round pick and legit prospect is the cost

[sensodyne17]

Boeser to CBJ, Rakell to VAN, picks/prospects to PIT makes a ton of sense.

This could make sense. Don't think VAN would add anymore though.

Columbus also needs a goalie... wouldn't this be crazy?

To Columbus:
Demko (potential starting goalie to increase their ceiling - won't do anything with Tarasov/Merz)
Boeser (a top goalscoring RW - have plenty of cap to re-sign)

To Vancouver
Rakell (replaces Boeser at a fraction of the cap hit - cost controlled which is good)
Jarry (half retained - will still be a negative value asset but will be a backup to Lankinen as Silov isn't responsible)
Sillinger (someone who probably needs a fresh start - been playing better lately but is a young controllable forward that could use more opportunity... Columbus has abundance of these middle six guys, needs more high-end talent)

To Pittsburgh
CBJ 1st round pick
CBJ 3rd round pick

Columbus gets a high end goal scorer that they can easily re-sign - also gets a potential Vezina bounce back candidate to address their atrocious goaltending.

Pittsburgh gets a first (+middling picks/prospects) and gets rid of Jarry at half retained for Rakell - pretty good work for a rebuilding team.

Canucks move on from the old guard and get Rakell who's cost controlled and can still contribute to their playoff chase. Jarry at half retained to be a backup goalie is fine as he's definitely a better option than Silovs. Sillinger is a young middle six guy that can play center with some upside to break out and is still cheap next year.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This could make sense. Don't think VAN would add anymore though.

Columbus also needs a goalie... wouldn't this be crazy?

To Columbus:
Demko (potential starting goalie to increase their ceiling - won't do anything with Tarasov/Merz)
Boeser (a top goalscoring RW - have plenty of cap to re-sign)

To Vancouver
Rakell (replaces Boeser at a fraction of the cap hit - cost controlled which is good)
Jarry (half retained - will still be a negative value asset but will be a backup to Lankinen as Silov isn't responsible)
Sillinger (someone who probably needs a fresh start - been playing better lately but is a young controllable forward that could use more opportunity... Columbus has abundance of these middle six guys, needs more high-end talent)

To Pittsburgh
CBJ 1st round pick
CBJ 3rd round pick

Columbus gets a high end goal scorer that they can easily re-sign - also gets a potential Vezina bounce back candidate to address their atrocious goaltending.

Pittsburgh gets a first (+middling picks/prospects) and gets rid of Jarry at half retained for Rakell - pretty good work for a rebuilding team.

Canucks move on from the old guard and get Rakell who's cost controlled and can still contribute to their playoff chase. Jarry at half retained to be a backup goalie is fine as he's definitely a better option than Silovs. Sillinger is a young middle six guy that can play center with some upside to break out and is still cheap next year.

This sucks for Pittsburgh and Columbus and is robbery by Vancouver.

Bjorkstrand was effectively just traded for a 1st and 2nd. This has the Penguins getting less for Rakell, and eating half of Jarry's deal and trading him doesn't add value to the Penguins.

Columbus is also not trading Sillinger, a 1st and 3rd for a rental Boeser and a heavily struggling/injury prone Demko.

 

[sensodyne17]

This sucks for Pittsburgh and Columbus and is robbery by Vancouver.

You're one of the biggest homers on here so I'm not really going to take you seriously.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You're one of the biggest homers on here so I'm not really going to take you seriously.

Cool story. Still a shit trade for Columbus and Pittsburgh.

That deal has the Canucks getting the most productive player in Rakell and best single asset in Sillinger. It's comically lopsided towards them.

 

[Coffee]

You're one of the biggest homers on here so I'm not really going to take you seriously.

There’s a difference between tough love and being a homer

All though Empoleon has shown us in the past he’s a homer, he is being totally reasonable here. Not a good trade for Columbus or Pittsburgh

 

[sensodyne17]

This sucks for Pittsburgh and Columbus and is robbery by Vancouver.

Bjorkstrand was effectively just traded for a 1st and 2nd. This has the Penguins getting less for Rakell, and eating half of Jarry's deal and trading him doesn't add value to the Penguins.

Columbus is also not trading Sillinger, a 1st and 3rd for a rental Boeser and a heavily struggling/injury prone Demko.

Rakell and Bjorkstrand have comparable values.

Rakell is having a better year on paper but is also -23. Bjorkstrand doesn't have Crosby/Malkin to play with. Eating half of Jarry's deal saves the organization $8 million dollars.

I guess saving $8M doesn't add value to the Penguins.

Some people just don't operate in reality.

There’s a difference between tough love and being a homer

All though Empoleon has shown us in the past he’s a homer, he is being totally reasonable here. Not a good trade for Columbus or Pittsburgh

How would that not be a good trade for Pittsburgh or Columbus?

These low-effort, no explanation thought process comments are just a waste of everyone's time. So Columbus trading a 1st, 3rd and Sillinger for Boeser and Demko doesn't make them way better team?

We just saw Bjorkstrand and Gourde go for 1st, 1st and a 2nd.

 

[Three On Zero]

There’s a difference between tough love and being a homer

All though Empoleon has shown us in the past he’s a homer, he is being totally reasonable here. Not a good trade for Columbus or Pittsburgh

It’s good for Pittsburgh, great for Vancouver and terrible for Columbus.

Jarry going out and a 1st coming back is a huge positive for Pitts

 

[Coffee]

Rakell and Bjorkstrand have comparable values.

Rakell is having a better year on paper but is also -23. Bjorkstrand doesn't have Crosby/Malkin to play with. Eating half of Jarry's deal saves the organization $8 million dollars.

I guess saving $8M doesn't add value to the Penguins.

Some people just don't operate in reality.




How would that not be a good trade for Pittsburgh or Columbus?

That does make sense, but why would he not accept the trade if it was a win?

Something doesn’t align

 

[sensodyne17]

It’s good for Pittsburgh, great for Vancouver and terrible for Columbus

I don't see how this is terrible for Columbus.

Tampa just gave up 2 x 1st round picks and a 2nd for Gourde and Bjorkstrand.

Edmonton just gave up a 2nd and a 4th and some prospects for Trent Frederic.

A 1st + 3rd + Sillinger for Boeser + Demko is suddenly terrible? Make that make sense for me.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Rakell and Bjorkstrand have comparable values.

Rakell is having a better year on paper but is also -23. Bjorkstrand doesn't have Crosby/Malkin to play with. Eating half of Jarry's deal saves the organization $8 million dollars.

I guess saving $8M doesn't add value to the Penguins.

Some people just don't operate in reality.




How would that not be a good trade for Pittsburgh or Columbus?

These low-effort, no explanation thought process comments are just a waste of everyone's time. So Columbus trading a 1st, 3rd and Sillinger for Boeser and Demko doesn't make them way better team?

We just saw Bjorkstrand and Gourde go for 1st, 1st and a 2nd.

If you're using +/- to justify a trade, that just tells me you're not worth having a discussion with

Columbus sure as hell isn't trading Sillinger for a rental Boeser. Even if Boeser was coming with an extension, they still likely wouldn't do it. Boeser only has 7 more points than Sillinger while being 7 years older and not a center. It would be crazy dumb to trade Sillinger for Boeser, and Demko going back to them isn't a positive with Demko's current play and injury issues.

I'm not even going to touch the Pittsburgh end because I'm such a massive mega homer that I can't talk impartially about the Penguins. But anyone looking at that trade can easily see it's dogshit for Columbus. It's shit for the Penguins too because it has them getting worse value back for Rakell than Bjorkstrand brought back, but it's significantly shittier for Columbus because Sillinger for Boeser is horrendous for Columbus.

 

[Three On Zero]

I don't see how this is terrible for Columbus.

Tampa just gave up 2 x 1st round picks and a 2nd for Gourde and Bjorkstrand.

Edmonton just gave up a 2nd and a 4th and some prospects for Trent Frederic.

A 1st + 3rd + Sillinger for Boeser + Demko is suddenly terrible? Make that make sense for me.

Pending medical on his untreatable “injury” he’s became a negative asset. And Boeser only has significant value at a sign and trade on a good discount.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Pending medical on his untreatable “injury” he’s became a negative asset. And Boeser is only valuable at a sign and trade on a good discount.

Not only that, but how is Sillinger a "middle-6 asset that probably needs a fresh start" while Boeser is a "top goalscoring RW"? Boeser has 18 goals and 36 points in 53 games this year. Sillinger has 9 goals and 29 points in 54 games this year.

 

[sensodyne17]

Pending medical on his untreatable “injury” he’s became a negative asset. And Boeser is only valuable at a sign and trade on a good discount.

Demko would not be a negative asset for Columbus.

Columbus desperately needs goaltending and has ample cap space to take a flyer on Demko.

Huh?

We just saw Mikael Granlund traded as a UFA for a first and a third.

Boeser would have the same if not more value as a rental... why does it have to be a sign and trade? What world are we operating in? Are we living in the same world?

 

[Empoleon8771]

It’s good for Pittsburgh, great for Vancouver and terrible for Columbus.

Jarry going out and a 1st coming back is a huge positive for Pitts

Issue here is that Jarry's going out at 50% retained. If it was Jarry's full salary, then yeah that's a great deal for the Penguins. They're not sacrificing much value on Rakell to move out Jarry's deal. But moving out Jarry at 50% isn't really a positive or negative for them.

But like I said, it's far shittier for Columbus.

 

[sensodyne17]

Not only that, but how is Sillinger a "middle-6 asset that probably needs a fresh start" while Boeser is a "top goalscoring RW"? Boeser has 18 goals and 36 points in 53 games this year. Sillinger has 9 goals and 29 points in 54 games this year.

Great hockey conversation. Check last year stats for me buddy.

Using one year of statistics to try to make some stupid false narrative - one of the worst posters on this board and I'm not even snooping around Pittsburgh forums. Just see so many bad takes from you everywhere, you've become famous at this point.

Issue here is that Jarry's going out at 50% retained. If it was Jarry's full salary, then yeah that's a great deal for the Penguins. They're not sacrificing much value on Rakell to move out Jarry's deal. But moving out Jarry at 50% isn't really a positive or negative for them.

But like I said, it's far shittier for Columbus.

1st and a 3rd is Rakell's base value already.

What are you talking about sacrificing much value?

Now you're just yapping for no reason - please stop engaging in conversation man.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Great hockey conversation. Check last year stats for me buddy.

Using one year of statistics to try to make some stupid false narrative - one of the worst posters on this board and I'm not even snooping around Pittsburgh forums. Just see so many bad takes from you everywhere, you've become famous at this point.

You are aware that Cole Sillinger is 21 and getting better, correct?

It's hilarious that you keep throwing out personal insults and calling me "one of the worst posters on this board" when you're making an absolute ass out of yourself here. Columbus isn't trading a 21 year old top-9 center getting better for a rental Boeser and an injured and underperforming Demko.

1st and a 3rd is Rakell's base value already.

What are you talking about sacrificing much value?

Now you're just yapping for no reason - please stop engaging in conversation man.

Again, that's less than what Bjorkstrand brought back and Rakell is outpacing Bjorkstrand by like 20 points this year.

If you actually want a reasonable 3-way trade:

Jackets get Boeser with an extension
Canucks get Rakell
Penguins get a 2025 1st and Del Bel Belluz

There's probably a small plus going from Pittsburgh to Vancouver, but it's minor. Vancouver swaps a top-6 scoring RW rental for an older but cheaper top-6 scoring RW with term. Penguins get futures. Jackets get the highest upside player.

 

[LuLover96]

To Toronto -
Brock Boeser (Double retained to 1.6625)
Pius Suter (1.8)

To Vancouver -
Max Domi (3.75 cap dump)
'26 First
Minten or Cowan

To Calgary (or other cap dump team) -
Tor '25 5th

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Nylander - Tavares - Boeser - 3 goalscoring threats who go to the net
McMann - Suter - Robertson/Holmberg - More defensively responsible 3rd line
Lorentz - Kampf - Jarnkrok

Hoglander - Pettersson - Garland
DeBrusk - Chytil - Lekkerimaki
O'Connor - Domi - Sherwood
Joshua - Blueger - Aman

Get Minten/Cowan in there next season and make a push to sign a guy like Ehlers, and maybe...

 

[David71]

to winnipeg maybe? 2026 1st+ prospect

 

[Peen]

Rakell’s good but it’s been heavily telegraphed that if theyre flipping assets, it’s for a mid 20s forward - not a 30+ guy

 

[sensodyne17]

Rakell’s good but it’s been heavily telegraphed that if theyre flipping assets, it’s for a mid 20s forward - not a 30+ guy

That's ideal but Rakell is at least cost controlled despite turning 32 soon.

In a perfect world we would want a mid 20s forward but every team is looking for a mid 20s forward.

 

[Petes2424]

Well of course that’s what they’d like but they’ll get a B prospect with a 1st.

 

[Qwijibo]

No, it's a benchmark that a player clears. Typically, someone would call a player a "consistent 30 goal scorer" if they're referring to someone who does it every year.

So is it fair to call Max Domi a 70+ point guy? I mean, he did it once. It's not an accurate description at all, but he's done it

 

[Rowlet]

So is it fair to call Max Domi a 70+ point guy? I mean, he did it once. It's not an accurate description at all, but he's done it

Sure, but I'd say it depends on the context of what you're replying to. Saying Max Domi is a 70 point scorer is factually correct.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

You're one of the biggest homers on here so I'm not really going to take you seriously.

I agree with him.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Boeser to CBJ, Rakell to VAN, picks/prospects to PIT makes a ton of sense.

Don’t think the Canucks would have interest in Rakell. I think they plan to utilize the money they would be spending on Brock on either a center or winger with size and speed.