Calling a time out before challenging a goal

[chaz4hockey]

Torts has done this a couple times this year. I'm not sure if other coaches have. To me, it seems against the spirit of the coaches challenge. Will this become more common practice?

RBA did it earlier this year (with a subsequent successful challenge)

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don’t have a problem with it at all, provided it’s used to identify something legitimately problematic, like the puck going through the side of the net. If they want to gamble their timeout to get a better look at something like that, go right ahead.

I’m less a fan of sitting through a timeout so they can figure out that someone’s skate lace was across the blue line before the last millimeter of the puck, so they go back for some long review to wave off the goal for a stupid reason. If that’s the case, please put a caption on the screen saying it’s a good time to change the channel.

 

[TD Charlie]

Until they change the rule so that you can’t do this, I see no reason why not to try it if you’re unsure

 

[canadianmagpie]

It's fair under the current rules. However, I'd like to see a 30 second time limit to make a decision rather than holding up the game for a minute or two before challenging.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

I believe it's a much better and honest thing to do.

You want time, use the time out.

Teams/coaches that drag the face off to review should be penalized. First by getting a timeout removed then if already spent, a minor 2

 

[Woodrow]

Just get rid of challenges. Problem solved.

 

[MadLuke]

Isn't the consequence of a bad challenge, loosing a timeout and wouldn't challenging a goal do evreything a timeout do (kill momemtum, rest players, etc...)

Is there much to gain (vs the loosing of the timeout) to do something like this, feel like I am missing something

 

[Bard Marchand]

I know you can use your time out, obviously, it's just that most coaches don't. They use the time allotted before the next puck drop to challenge the call or not. This is what I meant by "spirit" as opposed to any written rule. I really don't have a problem with Torts here

You seemed to miss the question I ended with, which, as I've said above, gets to the point I was raising. Will this becomes a standard practice (call a timeout before challenging or not challenging)? If so, is that better for the game?

Well you gotta admit the way your OP sounded it seems like you are implying that using a time out is in some way cheating or unfair. However, most people have stopped by this thread already to point out various reasons why that is untrue.

As for the second part of your post, I think it could become a more popular move for coaches to make if they are not 100% certain that their challenge would succeed. It gives their video guy a little more time to analyze the play and inform the head coach. Team burns their time out for extra surety that they will not be penalized for a bad coach's challenge.

The time when you would not want to burn your time out first is when the play is obviously, egregiously wrong. We can all joke about "haha refs suck and are blind" but hugely missed calls like this don't happen in every game.

Also, there's no guarantee that an opportunity will come up later in the game for your team to need a time out, so that's another reason to use it here instead of waiting for a moment that might never come and not even using a time out.

 

[hangman005]

They should be moving to drop the puck without delay... if that forces teams to burn a time out while they decide they want to challenge... good.

 

[hangman005]

Isn't the consequence of a bad challenge, loosing a timeout and wouldn't challenging a goal do evreything a timeout do (kill momemtum, rest players, etc...)

Is there much to gain (vs the loosing of the timeout) to do something like this, feel like I am missing something

It's a minor penalty now instead of burning a timeout.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Any other thoughts on this?

 

[Ghost of Murph]

It has happened in two of the games I've watched tonight. I'm fine with it if a team wants to burn its timeout.

What isn't ok is when a ref gives a coach extra time to look at replays before the puck drop. Ref simply needs to allow the normal time for the lines to get ready then drop[ the puck. Give a penalty if the team isn't set in time for faceoff.