Speculation: Calgary Flames interested in Brandon Carlo

[Lunatik]

nto worth it

 

[Petes2424]

The Flames are going to be after, or they are actually after, a defensive Dman who can log minutes BUT who can also be Parekh’s protector and partner next season. Carlo fits that in every way except he’s RH. Whether that’s enough to stop them, who knows. Think they’d prefer a LHD for the role., even though Parekh may end up playing a lot of Left in his career.

Unfortunately Parekh can’t play in the AHL next season, and we’ve heard nothing about going NCAA. That means it’s OHL or NHL and they’d waste a season sending him back to Juniors. They will however protect him like we’ve never seen before. He may play limited games, and limited mjnutes, have AHL conditioning stints, etc, etc. The reason being, he’s nowhere near ready defensively. He’ll get away with some because of how talented he is, but he still needs development time or he’ll end up a pure gimmick dman in the NHL. How much he plays a regular shift next year will probably depend on what type of summer he has training. He’ll play as much as he’s ready to, but they won’t just send him to the wolves.

The Flames would like to be active this week. We’ll see how much they can get done but Carlo would be a great get.

 

[Sparky93]

I would like some of what you are smoking

I think Ras holds more value than Carlo. The Lindholm contract is pretty rancid. Is moving down in the draft, currently 7 spots, while upgrading your defense and saving $7 million in capspace a big price to pay?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Not sure how familiar you are with Parekh’s game but having watched him play in person multiple times over the past three years, I can assure you that there’s not a hope in hell of him playing in the NHL next year. I’m doubtful that Parekh will ever be able to cut it as an NHL defenseman.

He’s woefully inadequate defensively for the NHL and has ZERO physical play in his game. In the OHL, he’s able to freewheel against 16yr old kids and future beer league players to pad his stats but that’s not going to translate to the NHL.

And then there’s the attitude on top of his physical limitations. Parekh’s best chance at playing in the NHL would be to convert to playing RW.

I almost fell off my chair when Calgary drafted Parekh when Sam Dickinson was still available. What a catastrophic mistake that was.

Probably the worst take of the year right here. Guys is going to have the first 100+ point season since Ryan Ellis and you think he can't make the NHL????

Obviously you haven't watched much of him because his defensive game has improved immensely and he has a very active stick. Sam Dickinson is definitely more likely to make the NHL but his ceiling is Noah Hanifin, Parekh's ceiling is similar to EK65 or Quinn Hughes.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I think Ras holds more value than Carlo. The Lindholm contract is pretty rancid. Is moving down in the draft, currently 7 spots, while upgrading your defense and saving $7 million in capspace a big price to pay?

Lindholm was hurt I believe in his first practice as a Bruin. He is playing much better. Not sure switching picks makes it worth it.

I would rather do a pick and prospect for Carlo,

 

[Donnie740]

Probably the worst take of the year right here. Guys is going to have the first 100+ point season since Ryan Ellis and you think he can't make the NHL????

Obviously you haven't watched much of him because his defensive game has improved immensely and he has a very active stick. Sam Dickinson is definitely more likely to make the NHL but his ceiling is Noah Hanifin, Parekh's ceiling is similar to EK65 or Quinn Hughes.

I have no doubt that Parekh will “make the NHL” because Calgary will force feed him ice time regardless of how atrocious his is because they have to do everything possible to justify that #9 overall pick they wasted.

Do I foresee Parekh ever playing at an all star level in the NHL? Absolutely not.

Do I foresee Parekh ever winning a Norris Trophy? No, there’s a higher likelihood of him winning a Super Bowl.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I have no doubt that Parekh will “make the NHL” because Calgary will force feed him ice time regardless of how atrocious his is because they have to do everything possible to justify that #9 overall pick they wasted.

Do I foresee Parekh ever playing at an all star level in the NHL? Absolutely not.

Do I foresee Parekh ever winning a Norris Trophy? No, there’s a higher likelihood of him winning a Super Bowl.

Ok so why is that? Parekh has off the charts IQ and clearly is offensively gifted. Maybe he doesn't pan out and ends up a bust, but he is far more likely to pan out than not at this point in time. Every big amateur scout has him ranked as a top 10 prospect outside the NHL right now meanwhile you think he's trash. I think I'll trust their opinions a bit more than yours.

Here is what Scott Wheeler had to say about him on his recent top 100 prospects rankings (he ranked him 4th)

Parekh is one of the most talented prospects in the sport and has the potential to be an offensive game-changer. He might even be in a special tier offensively. Two seasons ago, despite playing in just 50 of Saginaw’s 68 games after missing three weeks due to injury from the end of February into March and another couple for the World Under-17 Hockey Challenge (where he scored three goals and five points in seven games as the highest-scoring defenseman on the fourth-place-finishing Canada Black), he still broke the OHL’s all-time goals record by a U17 defenseman, scoring 21 times. An OHL Cup All-Star and first-round pick into the OHL before that, Parekh then became the most talented offensive defenseman in junior hockey last year, winning the CHL’s defenseman of the year award and scoring and producing at an all-time great draft-year rate, breaking the 30-goal and 90-point mark as the leading scorer on the Memorial Cup hosts by more than 20 points. He was extremely impactful against the three best teams in the CHL at the Memorial Cup, playing big minutes to help the Spirit to the championship. Though he missed some playoff games due to an upper-body injury, he was still a difference-maker for Saginaw in the postseason. He got off to a slow start this season after a very short summer due to the Memorial Cup, the draft, development camp, rookie tournament and the World Junior Summer Showcase, but he has excited again recently and is back on track for another 30-goal and 90-plus point season.

He plays an aggressive and natural offensive style that looks to attack off the line into the slot or even the front of the net or below the goal line. He’ll also regularly involve himself in the rush, much like a winger does, driving down the wall in control to look to challenge defenders and attack into his shot or create an odd-man rush. He’s extremely confident on offense and opening up his feet (where necessary) around the zone without going to his heel-to-heel by default. He’s got great hands and a casual-looking skating posture (he’s got excellent feet crossing over and falling onto his heels, but does lack pull-away speed in straight lines going forward), which he uses to carry pucks with a visual ease and beat the first layer of pressure to get to his spots. When the puck arrives on his stick, it just seems to stop and glue to him through his movements — a very rare quality that almost makes him look lackadaisical with the puck because it’s settled so easily into his pocket and upright stance. He likes to roam, but he’s also learning to pick his spots better and his head is constantly on a swivel to identify where he is in relation to his teammates. When he plays freely, which is almost always, you’re drawn to him whenever he touches the puck because he’s always a threat to make something happen and he sees and identifies plays early. He protects the puck extremely well with players leaning on him, escaping situations you wouldn’t expect him to and often avoiding contact with deft little pre-planned plays (though he’ll also take a hit to make a play). He’s got great footwork and edges to manipulate across the line and stop up along the boards to change directions or maintain gaps.

And I also believe he defends at a high enough level to be given free rein to go out there and be himself offensively. Though his defense has been a common criticism among scouts at times, I’d argue he’s got a great stick (which is long and which he hides really well until an opportunity to be disruptive presents itself) and reads the play a high, high level in anticipation. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him on the penalty kill, and even though he definitely doesn’t play a physical style and can get exposed for not being hard enough in engagements, I think he’s made important progress in his own zone and he’s also become a very chippy/mouthy/pest-like player (though his lack of discipline at times can get him in trouble). There are times when his posture will look disengaged and upright, and you’d like him to really get low and battle, but he’s playing to win pucks with his stick and does so quite well (he’s never going to be a staunch defender). Add in that he’s a very good communicator (he’s constantly talking on the ice), has passes that are almost always tape-to-tape and perfectly flat, an ability to draw penalties escaping pressure as well as just about anyone in the draft class (he’s never in trouble) and a want to have the puck and make a difference, and there’s a very high-end package. If he can defend at a reasonable level in the NHL (which I believe he’ll be able to) he’s got star power.

 

[stungun54]

Dont see the point in trading any of our Defense besides maybe Wotherspoon as he is a UFA. Boston needs to work on putting together their offense but at the same time moving a solid defenseman creates another hole in the roster. Doesnt make sense. Trade you Coyle Zacha before Carlo.

 

[Paper]

nto wroth it

 

[Jay Gray]

Carlo, Lindholm + top 10 protected 2025 1st
For
Rasmus Andersson + Devils 2025 1st

Lindholm's NMC might have something to say for Calgary.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

That would be Ryan Ellis. What a forgettable NHL “career” he had.

Ellis had a pretty solid career as a top 4, fringe top pair guy before injuries took their toll on him. He was a huge part of that Nashville team that made the Cup final.

 

[Kielbasa]

I have no doubt that Parekh will “make the NHL” because Calgary will force feed him ice time regardless of how atrocious his is because they have to do everything possible to justify that #9 overall pick they wasted.

Do I foresee Parekh ever playing at an all star level in the NHL? Absolutely not.

Do I foresee Parekh ever winning a Norris Trophy? No, there’s a higher likelihood of him winning a Super Bowl.

Really trying to fight the world on this one. It feels like there's gotta be more to it than just not liking Parekh's game for you to be this vehement about your opinion of him. Seems like a wierd hill to die on IMO, but have fun I guess.

Also, if you think that the Flames are going to rush any prospect, you don't know much about the Flames development process. They're far more liable to overcook a prospect in junior or the AHL than promote to the NHL too quickly.

Additionally, since most scouts and their dogs agree it was a reasonable pick, they won't feel that they have to "do everything possible to justify that #9 overall pick they wasted."

As for Brandon Carlo, I don't like the idea for the Flames, but Conroy seems to be good at buying low. So if a trade happens, I don't think the price will be huge.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Apparently the ask is a 1st rounder. Probably fair but not what the Flames need to do. Doubt the Flames are the only ones asking too.

 

[Number8]

So you think a top four d man at what 4.1 mill for two Season doesn’t bring back a first? Thats a wild take.

You're being very very kind. "wild" is not the word I would use.

People can disagree on values of players -- hell, GM's do it all the time. But it all gets a bit silly when people do whatever the hell that guy was doing.

 

[Lunatik]

Apparently the ask is a 1st rounder. Probably fair but not what the Flames need to do. Doubt the Flames are the only ones asking too.

I wouldn't personally do it, but I also wouldn't be terribly upset if the Flames moved the latter of their 1sts for him. It would probably illicit an 'ugh', but then I'd move on and hope for the best.

 

[Zirakzigil]

I wouldn't personally do it, but I also wouldn't be terribly upset if the Flames moved the latter of their 1sts for him. It would probably illicit an 'ugh', but then I'd move on and hope for the best.

Only makes sense if Weegs wants to go back to the left side. Flames arent trading Ras.

 

[Lunatik]

Only makes sense if Weegs wants to go back to the left side. Flames arent trading Ras.

I think that would 100% be the plan.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You're being very very kind. "wild" is not the word I would use.

People can disagree on values of players -- hell, GM's do it all the time. But it all gets a bit silly when people do whatever the hell that guy was doing.

Curious? Considering the person you quoted was quoting me, what exactly was I doing?

 

[PlayMakers]

Winnipeg is reportedly after Carlo as well.

 

[maxbme]

Winnipeg is reportedly after Carlo as well.

That seems like a very good fit for him

 

[Number8]

Curious? Considering the person you quoted was quoting me, what exactly was I doing?

My apologies. I jumped the gun.

I thought you had said he was not worth a 1st. My mistake.

I can understand a given team not wanting to pay a first - of course. Again, i though you were saying a 1st is a bad ask. Again, my error.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Probably a first + +

He’s on a good contract and entering prime years

Perfetti and a 1rst might get it done

BOS needs to add young skill

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

My apologies. I jumped the gun.

I thought you had said he was not worth a 1st. My mistake.

I can understand a given team not wanting to pay a first - of course. Again, i though you were saying a 1st is a bad ask. Again, my error.

No worries. I would not at all be surprised if he returned a 1st. The team giving it just shouldn't be Calgary. Doesn't fit Conroy's MO at all either. Someone like Mattias Samuelson makes way more sense for the Flames

 

[remer]

A few teams are lining up to take a crack at Carlo. If it’s Calgary, don’t be surprised that Connor Zary is involved. If it’s Winnipeg, Cole Perfetti likely is involved.
Any other teams seem to be getting in line to find the quality defenceman like Carlo at that price tag. Teams are willing to pay.

 

[Lunatik]

If it’s Calgary, don’t be surprised that Connor Zary is involved.

Yeah, absolutely not happening