Value of: Calen Addison

[Digitalbooya]

There’s been some speculation that Minnesota could end up trading Addison this summer due to the dead cap increasing to almost $15M for the next two years.

Addison is a 22 year old RFA at the end of the year. He is on pace for 43 points in his first full year in the NHL. Most of his production has been on the power play so far. He’s defensively suspect at times, but it’s been steadily improving with time.

Probably looking at a bridge “prove it” type deal this offseason. Might be willing to sign with term.

Minnesota is looking for players/prospects with potential to fill their holes at 1C, 2C, 2RW and potentially 2RD if Faber isn’t ready. Most likely targeting NHL ready prospects or low cost players+picks.

What would your team offer?

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[TheSauceBoss]

Addison won't be moved. Dumba will be moved and Addison will take his slot in the top 4.

 

[Gurglesons]

Why would they ever trade Addison?

 

[AKL]

Why would they ever trade Addison?

The theory is he could be moved if his contract demands price him out. I highly doubt that's gonna happen this summer, but Russo speculated it might/could/potentially be a thing so people are running with it.

Not sure it even qualifies as speculation at this point, but it's a hockey forum to discuss hockey.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Why would they ever trade Addison?

I’m basically seeing if someone would offer a forward prospect worth it.

 

[Gurglesons]

The theory is he could be moved if his contract demands price him out. I highly doubt that's gonna happen this summer, but Russo speculated it might/could/potentially be a thing so people are running with it.

Not sure it even qualifies as speculation at this point, but it's a hockey forum to discuss hockey.

I don't see how he'll have any argument for anything about 3-4 million.

I’m basically seeing if someone would offer a forward prospect worth it.

Jason Zucker. But realistically knowing ol' JR you could probably get Podkolzin or Hoglander out of Vancouver.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I don't see how he'll have any argument for anything about 3-4 million.



Jason Zucker. But realistically knowing ol' JR you could probably get Podkolzin or Hoglander out of Vancouver.

Zucker isn’t a prospect. Ideally it would be someone *like* Noah Ostlund or Jiri Kulich. Maybe Shane Pinto. Those kind of young forwards.

 

[AKL]

I don't see how he'll have any argument for anything about 3-4 million.

I'm not even sure it'll be that high considering it's one year and a majority of the production is on the PP. I'm thinking in the 2M range on a bridge.

Jason Zucker. But realistically knowing ol' JR you could probably get Podkolzin or Hoglander out of Vancouver.

Not even sure I'd want either of those for him.

 

[Gurglesons]

Zucker isn’t a prospect. Ideally it would be someone *like* Noah Ostlund or Jiri Kulich. Maybe Shane Pinto. Those kind of young forwards.

Why? Minnesota's blue line is light on offense and you want to move your best offensive weapon back there who has a ton of pedigree and is super young. Doesn't make sense..

And I doubt you get Pinto.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think it makes a lot more sense to trade Dumba and elevate Addison's role than to trade Addison.

I also don't really think Addison has a huge case for getting a big payday after his current deal. He's playing #6 minutes and is absolutely farming points on the powerplay (16 of 22 points on the PP). My guess is that he'd fall in at like $2.5 million, especially when he's not yet eligible for arbitration.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Don't mind the OP, he's been very negative about the Wild lately.

There was some discussion from Russo saying that Addison could be traded if negotiations fall apart this offseason as Addison might demand a bit more than the Wild can offer. Gus is having a phenomenal year and that could put things pretty tight for Minnesota. However I don't see them moving Addison unless his contract demands are outrageous.

 

[AKL]

Don't mind the OP, he's been very negative about the Wild lately.

You of all people can't be saying this

 

[Djp]

There’s been some speculation that Minnesota could end up trading Addison this summer due to the dead cap increasing to almost $15M for the next two years.

Addison is a 22 year old RFA at the end of the year. He is on pace for 43 points in his first full year in the NHL. Most of his production has been on the power play so far. He’s defensively suspect at times, but it’s been steadily improving with time.

Probably looking at a bridge “prove it” type deal this offseason. Might be willing to sign with term.

Minnesota is looking for players/prospects with potential to fill their holes at 1C, 2C, 2RW and potentially 2RD if Faber isn’t ready. Most likely targeting NHL ready prospects or low cost players+picks.

What would your team offer?

As a PP person wouldn’t he just get some of Dumba space with him leaving?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

As a PP person wouldn’t he just get some of Dumba space with him leaving?

That entire amount has basically been transferred to Boldy.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Why? Minnesota's blue line is light on offense and you want to move your best offensive weapon back there who has a ton of pedigree and is super young. Doesn't make sense..

And I doubt you get Pinto.

This is a value of thread. It’s to gauge what other fans/teams would be willing to offer. There’s nothing set in stone that he has to be traded. If a team were to offer a top center prospect, we would 100% have to look at that.

Addison has 6 ES points. Spurgeon has 18. Dumba has 12. Merrill has 10. Middleton has 6. Brodin has 5. Goligoski has 3 in 17GP.

Best offensive weapon back there? Maybe on the power play. ES? No chance.

Don't mind the OP, he's been very negative about the Wild lately.

There was some discussion from Russo saying that Addison could be traded if negotiations fall apart this offseason as Addison might demand a bit more than the Wild can offer. Gus is having a phenomenal year and that could put things pretty tight for Minnesota. However I don't see them moving Addison unless his contract demands are outrageous.

Ah yes, you calling me negative and discounting my thread. Then basically saying that our team writer said they might have to look at exactly what this thread is about. Wow.

The top part is especially hilarious given your history.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Just for reference, we have $9.3M in cap space next year, to sign 1 goalie, 2 defensemen and 4-5 forwards.

The goalie, Gustavsson, is probably going to be in the $2-3M range, let's say $2.5M

The two defensemen, let's say one is Faber on an ELC and the other is Addison on a reasonable bridge of $2.5M

That is now $3.4M left for 4-5 forwards:

3 of them are 4th liners, let's say $900k average ($2.7M total), so now we're down to $700k for another forward, if not 2.

This is why Greenway's $3M and maybe Goligoski's $2M (if possible) might be shucked.

 

[Gurglesons]

This is a value of thread. It’s to gauge what other fans/teams would be willing to offer. There’s nothing set in stone that he has to be traded. If a team were to offer a top center prospect, we would 100% have to look at that.

Addison has 6 ES points. Spurgeon has 18. Dumba has 12. Merrill has 10. Middleton has 6. Brodin has 5. Goligoski has 3 in 17GP.

Best offensive weapon back there? Maybe on the power play. ES? No chance.


Ah yes, you calling me negative and discounting my thread. Then basically saying that our team writer said they might have to look at exactly what this thread is about. Wow.

The top part is especially hilarious given your history.

He's 22 lol.

 

[Djp]

That entire amount has basically been transferred to Boldy.

i wouldn’t look at it thst way

about 3/7 of cap for G/D. So $84M is $36M

D/G you target $28.5M in space with $7.5M dead go into D

So 22.7M for 5D/1G for 23/24. $900K for back up. $2.25M for Addison and add a min/ELC D
so that’s about $25M for 7D/2G

for F you have about $68-$25=$43M

so right now on cap friendly it’s 8F for $36M and 3 RFAs. The rest are filled with ELC/ $1M contracts.

Goligno/Zucc/ greenwayare the ones to look at moving.

 

[Digitalbooya]

He's 22 lol.

And also being hinted by our beat writer that we might not be able to afford him this offseason depending on his contract demands. He’d be a really good trade chip to get a scorer alongside Boldy. Hence the thread.

 

[Circulartheory]

I think alot of posters are forgetting just how MUCH dead cap this team has. Yes, we are moving Dumba. Yes, we probably will try to move Greenway. And yes, I would suggest to move Goligoski.

But even with all those moves, we could probably barelyyy squeeze in Addison at a 3x3 deal.

So this thread is definitely worthy of discussion - especially if he asks for more than 3mil a year.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Obviously the cap crunch is here for minny but just seems like a bad move of they move Addison.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Obviously the cap crunch is here for minny but just seems like a bad move of they move Addison.

I think a lot of Wild fans would be open to moving these players first:
-Foligno
-Greenway
-Goligoski
-Middleton/Merill

That’s not the point of the thread though. Trying to gauge different avenues this team could take based on expected returns.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think alot of posters are forgetting just how MUCH dead cap this team has. Yes, we are moving Dumba. Yes, we probably will try to move Greenway. And yes, I would suggest to move Goligoski.

But even with all those moves, we could probably barelyyy squeeze in Addison at a 3x3 deal.

So this thread is definitely worthy of discussion - especially if he asks for more than 3mil a year.

Addison probably would take a dirt cheap deal for two years so he gets closer to UFA and Minnesota will have cap and the cap goes up in two years.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Addison probably would take a dirt cheap deal for two years so he gets closer to UFA and Minnesota will have cap and the cap goes up in two years.

This is what Wild fans are hoping for. Not guaranteed though.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I think a lot of Wild fans would be open to moving these players first:
-Foligno
-Greenway
-Goligoski
-Middleton/Merill

That’s not the point of the thread though. Trying to gauge different avenues this team could take based on expected returns.

Understood. I’m assuming Foligno isn’t being moved due to his value from guerin and company.
Greenway seems like the obvious move. Gogo was a weird extension. Should’ve been year to year.

Think you could get a nice young center that projects about the same.