Cale Makar scores 30 goals in a season, first since Mike Green

[Cool Hand Puke]

Am I the only one who thinks that 30 goals for a d-man now days isn’t all that impressive? The way scoring has gone up and bunch of d-men putting up bunch points. Rookie d-man like Hutson has 62 points in 74 games. Two more d-men other than Makar have 20 goals etc… I think the real impressive thing would be if a d-man can score 50 goals one of this days

Are you referring to the same Hutson that has 5 goals? Are you trying to say that Makars 6x goal amount to Hutson isn’t impressive?

The same Makar that in his rookie year scored 12 goals in 57 games?

 

[wetcoast]

Am I the only one who thinks that 30 goals for a d-man now days isn’t all that impressive? The way scoring has gone up and bunch of d-men putting up bunch points. Rookie d-man like Hutson has 62 points in 74 games. Two more d-men other than Makar have 20 goals etc… I think the real impressive thing would be if a d-man can score 50 goals one of this days

This is only the 7th seasons a Dman has scored 25 o or more goals since the 05-06 season.

It's extremely impressive.

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[wasup]

I called into Cale and told him to calm down tonight and stop showing off his big balls in Columbus. You're welcome.


They've committed to calling Quinn #2 n the world. Going to be so funny when he leaves for NJ in 2 years.

He is a really good D man that I would love on my team and I am sure he will be a nuck for life . I am a Jets fan and we have Morrissey who I love but I have no problem saying there are 3-5 d men in the league that I think are better .

I'm not belittling Morrissey by saying that but I think there are a few better d men imo

 

[tarheelhockey]

Am I the only one who thinks that 30 goals for a d-man now days isn’t all that impressive? The way scoring has gone up and bunch of d-men putting up bunch points. Rookie d-man like Hutson has 62 points in 74 games. Two more d-men other than Makar have 20 goals etc… I think the real impressive thing would be if a d-man can score 50 goals one of this days

I mean, he’s the only guy to do it.

For that matter he’s the only guy to score over 20.

Yes, I think a guy scoring 50% more goals than anyone else at his position — regardless of what that position is — is impressive and a strong marker of a top-tier Hall of Famer.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Pump the brakes.

Orr is in his own tier.

best d since orr. I think the expectations to surpass Gretzky/Lemieux/Orr are so impossible we will simply have to settle for best since. And best since Makar/McDavid, etc.

 

[the_fan]

Are you referring to the same Hutson that has 5 goals? Are you trying to say that Makars 6x goal amount to Hutson isn’t impressive?

All I meant was, the way d-men scoring keeps going up, it seems like scoring 30 goals by a d-man should happen more often. I understand that it’s rare and props to Makar. I mean im an Avs fan and I wasn’t trying to undermine his accomplishment or anything like that

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Seriously, what about Fox?!

What about Matthews? That’s the real concern here- if he played defense he’d score 35 and we all know it. And shutdown. Best defender.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

Kevin Hatcher was a very talented, offensive defenseman, not to be confused with his brother Derian who was t̶h̶e̶ s̶t̶a̶y̶-̶a̶t̶-̶h̶o̶m̶e̶, d̶e̶f̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ d̶e̶f̶e̶n̶s̶e̶m̶a̶n̶ a hulking talent-less neanderthal who remains the embodiment of clutch-and-grab garbage hockey

 

[BelovedIsles]

And sadly could also lose in the first round. Central is scary good.

I like them over Dallas. Blackwood can be a difference maker, as he makes saves many goalie can’t. Also, I like their depth this year.

 

[lionsDen]

Im lucky to have both makar and Mack on my favorite team

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

All I meant was, the way d-men scoring keeps going up, it seems like scoring 30 goals by a d-man should happen more often. I understand that it’s rare and props to Makar. I mean im an Avs fan and I wasn’t trying to undermine his accomplishment or anything like that

It seems like it should? almost as if there’s stats to show how often it should or should not happen…

 

[eviohh26]

He has a wicked wrister. Has speed and accuracy. And most important he gets it through. Crazy seeing the game change from Dmen like Weber Chara letting it absolutely blast em from the point to some accurate pin point wristers we see nowadays.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Forwards get more attention than d-man because they are always better/more valuable for similar tiered players

They get more attention because they get more points. And points are easier to measure and (deservedly) garner attention.

Gretzky, Lemieux, Howe are all generally seen as better than the best D-man in Orr.

I don’t know man…

Crosby, Bobby Hull, Jagr, OV are generally seen as better than the 2nd best dman in Bourque or Lidstrom.

Doug Harvey is the 2nd best blueliner ever. He’s in that class of player. Might be the 5th best player of all time. And there’s also Eddie Shore.

D-man don't impact a game as much as forwards. That is the way it has been historically.

I don’t think this is true. But would love to see how you came to this conclusion.

Makar has 87 in 76 good for 93 pts, Quinn Hughes has 70 pts in 61 games good for 94 pts in 82.

Makar is not the undisputed best dman. He is neck and neck with Quinn hughes now over 2 full seasons.

I’d say it’s Makar but… Hughes is pretty great.

No one would have Quinn Hughes ahead of Mackinnon or a comparable Kucherov or Draisaitl.

Many people would.

Makar is incredible but discounting Mackinnons season to prop up Makar is foolish

True. But I wouldn’t discount Makar either. I have zero problem with anyone saying he’s as good as Mac. I mean the dude is phenomenal.

 

[the_fan]

It seems like it should? almost as if there’s stats to show how often it should or should not happen…

We have 2 other d-men right now with 20 goals in the NHL so… it’s probably just a matter of time before 30 goals for d-men becomes a norm

 

[JoeSakic13]

Will finally win his over due 2nd norris

Overdue only in the aspect that it’s shocking he’s only won one.

This is the first year (other than his Norris win year obviously) he’s been deserving of it.

 

[Zanon]

It's funny how Canuck fans are missing in action now .

What do you want us to say? Hughes got hurt and took himself out of the running for the Norris. He was also arguably the front runner before he got hurt. He was playing even better than last season, and doing so with almost zero help. On an island out there.

Hughes is leading his team in scoring with 70 points in 61 games. Next is Brock Boeser with 46 points in 68 games.

 

[Toby91ca]

He is good, but playing with MacKinnon moves him to another level.

If you think of the best 5-10 Dmen in history, which ones would you say didn’t play with a great forward or 2?

 

[Terry Yake]

second greatest offensive dman of all time?

 

[Video Nasty]

Turnover machine this season, but sure, give him the Norris.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

This is only the 7th seasons a Dman has scored 25 o or more goals since the 05-06 season.

It's extremely impressive.

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Makar, Burns and Green as expected are up there. Didn't think Sheldon Sourray would have one of the best goal scoring seasons of the past 20 years.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Turnover machine this season, but sure, give him the Norris.

This isn't a Norris thread, this is just about him turning the puck over into the opponent's net 30 times so far. They will, though.

 

[McFlash97]

second greatest offensive dman of all time?

Paul Coffey eats Makar for Lunch bro. Stay in your lane

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Paul Coffey eats Makar for Lunch bro. Stay in your lane

Coffey is in his 50s. Makar would skate circles around the old man.

 

[Video Nasty]

This isn't a Norris thread, this is just about him turning the puck over into the opponent's net 30 times so far. They will, though.

No kidding. The media is in love with this guy and gives him automatic finalist nods even when he misses a quarter of the season. Not losing sleep knowing he’ll win the Norris.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

No kidding. The media is in love with this guy and gives him automatic finalist nods even when he misses a quarter of the season. Not losing sleep knowing he’ll win the Norris.

He's played at least 77 games in 3 of the last 4 seasons?