Calder Watch : 2024-25 Season

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Very impressive game by Celebrini wow.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Hutson: currently 4th in scoring among NHL D

Celebrini: currently 55th in scoring among NHL forwards

Hutson:

Having what is currently the 7th highest scoring rookie season in NHL history among D, could end up as high as 3rd (needs just 5 more points), has broken NHL records for rookie defensemen.

Celebrini:

Having what is currently the 107th highest scoring rookie season in NHL history among forwards, likely ends up around ~75th, has broken no significant NHL records.

Not even close. Hutson’s season is in an entirely different tier.

Celebrini: way, way, way better than Hutson defensively.

 

[Kennedys]

Celebrini: way, way, way better than Hutson defensively.

prove it !

 

[Garbageyuk]

Celebrini: way, way, way better than Hutson defensively.

First half of the season: maybe. Since like January onwards: no chance.

Have you watched Hutson at all lately? I doubt it.

 

[Kennedys]

First half of the season: maybe. Since like January onwards: no chance.

Have you watched Hutson at all lately? I doubt it.

Nobody is watching Lane play. Even the cameraman can't record all his dekes properly

 

[Grinner]

Most Points Rookie Season NHL Defenseman | StatMuse

The last entry in the ''easy to climb'' list of defenseman was 40 years ago lol. Makar would have done it if not for covid seasons, not even sure about Hughes.

Along with Mcdavid, Hutson is the only current active player to hit 60 carreer assist in their first 80 games, his season have been that crazy.

And don't get me wrong I'd still take Celibrini to build a team around, but he's not winning the calder.

Sure. Given the tensions between Canada and the US. It's a slam dunk Hutson will sweep all the Canadian sportswriters vote.

 

[koyvoo]

Sure. Given the tensions between Canada and the US. It's a slam dunk Hutson will sweep all the Canadian sportswriters vote.

This means the Hart is a lock for Draisaitl, I suppose.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Sure. Given the tensions between Canada and the US. It's a slam dunk Hutson will sweep all the Canadian sportswriters vote.

...Hutson is American, Celebrini is Canadian...

 

[Grinner]

This means the Hart is a lock for Draisaitl, I suppose.

I'd suspect so.
It's not like both Hutson and Drai aren't deserving

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I’d say celebrini takes the lead but he never lost it

As of today:

 

[coooldude]

prove it !

Disclaimer: I still think Hutson should win it as of today, and so did JFresh fairly recently.

That said, on EV defense, As of April 7 according to JFresh model, Hutson was 19%ile in EV defense, guessing as compared to the league population of defensemen.



Meanwhile, Celebrini was 50%ile as of January, I'm guessing in comparison to all forwards. I don't have access to his updated card.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJoseSharks/s/D9cNXOOgGX

 

[Miller Time]

Celebrini: way, way, way better than Hutson defensively.

You haven't watched them both play, have you.

 

[Grinner]

...Hutson is American, Celebrini is Canadian...

And? It's as much about the teams locations this year, than where the player was born

 

[Gravity]

Sure. Given the tensions between Canada and the US. It's a slam dunk Hutson will sweep all the Canadian sportswriters vote.

This has to be the dumbest conspiracy post on all of HF. Congrats!

 

[Benning]

Celebrini hat-trick and 4 points. Absolute stud. Our franchise has never had a player of his caliber/potential.

If he has a better career than Big Joe, you have one hell of a player... No matter how slowly Joe started, he still has a 1500pts career.
Nonetheless, I agree that it's really hard to put a ceiling on a rookie like him. Not to many comparables.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

And? It's as much about the teams locations this year, than where the player was born

...so your take is there is a Canadian conspiracy to give the Calder to an American who plays in Canada because of the Tariff War between the U.S. and Canada??...amigo, that's just bonkers...

 

[Kennedys]

Disclaimer: I still think Hutson should win it as of today, and so did JFresh fairly recently.

That said, on EV defense, As of April 7 according to JFresh model, Hutson was 19%ile in EV defense, guessing as compared to the league population of defensemen.



Meanwhile, Celebrini was 50%ile as of January, I'm guessing in comparison to all forwards. I don't have access to his updated card.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJoseSharks/s/D9cNXOOgGX

About the Defensive part, Hutson played a while with Matheson so that doesn't count !

 

[MrLunatik]

As of today:
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stop f***ing posting this shit, it's not evidence of anything

 

[Grinner]

...so your take is there is a Canadian conspiracy to give the Calder to an American who plays in Canada because of the Tariff War between the U.S. and Canada??...amigo, that's just bonkers...

I'd call it extra incentive

 

[MrLunatik]

I'd like Wolf to win, but I know he won't... so I hope Celebrini wins as a big f*** you to people thinking the betting odds actually mean something

 

[Tw1ster]

As of today:
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I’m still having flashbacks to when the Blue Jays were betting favorites to land Shohei Ohtani for a short time and I invested way too many emotions into that. Not related to this topic at all, just letting you know of some personal wounds

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

stop f***ing posting this shit, it's not evidence of anything

Hey it's @ORRFForever who started this. He kept posting it as proof when Celebrini was -100 and Hutson +200. Chill, you'll live longer.

Also, Hutson is on the cusp of tying/breaking two rookie dman records and that's precisely why the odds have ramped up in his favor. It didn't have any meaning when the odds were close, but with the present disparity, you'd have to be a total dunce to deny its validity.

 

[SoCalSharkzFan]

Hutson: currently 4th in scoring among NHL D

Celebrini: currently 55th in scoring among NHL forwards

Hutson:

Having what is currently the 7th highest scoring rookie season in NHL history among D, could end up as high as 3rd (needs just 5 more points), has broken NHL records for rookie defensemen.

Celebrini:

Having what is currently the 107th highest scoring rookie season in NHL history among forwards, likely ends up around ~75th, has broken no significant NHL records.

Not even close. Hutson’s season is in an entirely different tier.

If you're going to give him a boost for being a defenseman you have to knock him for his defensive play.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I'd call it extra incentive

...I'd call it lunacy...

 

[Kennedys]

I'd like Wolf to win, but I know he won't... so I hope Celebrini wins as a big f*** you to people thinking the betting odds actually mean something

You want Wolf to win but think Celebrini is winning ? Lane Hutson never happened