Value of: Cal Clutterbuck at the deadline and his next contract.
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SLAPSHOT723
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He's definitely not going to be traded, I'm absolutely positive about that. We'd have to be really, really out of it for that to happen, and I just can't see that happening.
It's a tough call. He's really important to the Islanders, like mega important, but we live in a cap world. If he asks for $3.5M, I'd have a hard time not giving that to him, But $4M wouldn't be easy.
It's a tough call. He's really important to the Islanders, like mega important, but we live in a cap world. If he asks for $3.5M, I'd have a hard time not giving that to him, But $4M wouldn't be easy.
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Agreed. It remains to be seen if Clutterbuck is the next pending UFA that is allowed to walk by Snow, but he is definitely needed for this season and won't be moved as a result.
They lost Okposo Neilson and Martin and replaced with Ladd not sure why you are laughing they got worse
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Ahem, Ladd, Chimera, and PAP. Most folks think Ladd vs Okposo is at the least a lateral move while others think it's an actual upgrade. Chimera is a big upgrade over Martin. PAP is not even close to a replacement for Nielsen. So in the end Nielsen is the only player the Islanders lost that's going to hurt them, but unless there is some serious regression from other players or huge injuries we are most likely playoff bound again and if we aren't it will come down to the wire. Thanks for playing though, you just came unprepared with necessary information.
Personally I don't see Ladd as an upgrade but I guess we will see
I am also skeptical of Chimera as well based on his age
I guess we will find out how off base I am
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Chimera, despite his age, has a lot more offensive talent than Martin and is a lot faster.
Clutterbuck will be untouchable at the dead line and too many fans don't recognize how important he is for the team. Last season he was tied with Tavares for a team best 5 GWG, tied with Nielsen for SHG (2) and was fourth in the entire league in hits (288). I really hope we can keep him long-term.
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He's the type of guy that GMs love to overpay. He's probably worth 3.5-4.5 short term, imo. I'm sure he wants term though, which is where someone is going to take a gamble and overpay in the hopes that having him for the first two years of the contract is worth overpaying him on the back half.
If Islanders aren't playing well, the last player they're going to trade is Cal Clutterbuck, because it will mean that their other RW's have failed and Cal is up the lineup.
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I could see NYI trying to keep Cal at something around 3-3.25M per over four years (which is long term for Cal, and the contract would expire the same year as Cizikas').
Could also see Cal having interest in a favorable deal for NYI simply because his role is perfect for him on NYI and I think both he and the organization realize that. Cizikas and Clutterbuck are what make their line go, and I think they'll show that this year. They're essentially a 3B line.
Could also see Cal having interest in a favorable deal for NYI simply because his role is perfect for him on NYI and I think both he and the organization realize that. Cizikas and Clutterbuck are what make their line go, and I think they'll show that this year. They're essentially a 3B line.
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NYI's 4th line is essentially paid and deployed as a second third line, or a 3B already.
I personally think NYI will try to deal Bailey and/or Kulemin even if it means retaining some salary to save enough bucks to sign Clutterbuck.
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I thought the numbers here were crazy talk, so I checked his age and stats real quickly. While I was surprised at his age (29 this season) since it feels like he's been in the league forever, I still couldn't see what was worth 3.5mil about this guy. 15 goals is solid production, but he's a 20 point average with the Isles. Other than hitting and probably leadership, how is he worth that much?
SLAPSHOT723
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We did? Oh man, really?! We didn't know that! Only Ladd? They didn't bring anyone else? Like PA Parenteau and Jason Chimera?! Oh man! We're screwed!!!!!!!
How come every time there's an Islanders thread, and Islander fans constantly bring up why we let certain guys go and we brought certain guys in, everyone else says "but they lost Nielsen and Okposo and replaced him with Ladd!"? Did everyone forget that Jason Chimera exists? Did everyone for get that PA Parenteau exists, and that he had insane chemistry with Tavares when he was with the Islanders? I've said this for months, maybe even years, that Parenteau right now is the only linemate of JT's that left the Islanders and played well. His other linemates were Matt Moulson, Thomas Vanek, and Brad Boyes, all of whom sucked after leaving him. Parenteau also may have had the best chemistry with Tavares of any linemate that Tavares has ever had, so why is everyone discounting that he could produce highly with him again?
Listen to the fans of the team they watch every day, don't just look at a piece of paper. The moves to let those guys go were smart, the moves to bring the guys they brought in were smart. If we brought all those guys back (Okposo, Nielsen, Martin), we wouldn't have been able to bring in anybody new. If we couldn't bring in anyone new, we would have been the same team over and over and over again, constantly losing in the first round but maybe making it to the second. More importantly, it sounded like we need a locker room shake up more than anything. What better way to do that than to lose some core guys, and replace them with high pedigree veterans? You know the last time we had a former captain on the Islanders? Doug Weight. Tavares has needed a guy like Ladd on his team for years, and it's not like Ladd is washed up. He's 30 years old, probably the prime age for a power forward.
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Clutterbuck's going nowhere. We more than likely won't be out of it by the deadline.
His leadership really is important. Once he came to the Islanders, he immediately bought into the culture and embraced it. A lot of fans were not happy that he was brought in because we traded Niederreiter for him. A lot of fans were saying "we traded a top-5 pick for a 3rd liner, he's nothing special." But he didn't care, he played his game, and really has been important for us.
Whenever Nielsen or Okposo was injured, he was the one that got the A. Don't forget, he scored 15 goals on the 4th line. If he was getting more ice time on the 3rd line with a more offensive linemate, he could have scored 20+ goals last year. He was on fire. I kept saying when Okposo got hurt that I wanted to try Clutterbuck out on his line, but Capuano didn't want to split up the 4th line, which I understand, but I think he has a lot more offense to offer. His offense and his leadership are worth $3.5M/year if that's what he re-signs for.
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Yeah, but he keeps getting referred to as a fourth liner, when he really isn't.
Talk about a trade that worked out for both teams.
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Where? GM's should be fired for holding them down, missing out on rocket wrist shots, physicality, leadership and top penalty killing ability.
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I feel like 3-3.5M per is the average going price for a third liner nowadays, no?
Looking at the numbers doesn't tell the whole story with Clutterbuck. He had 5 of his 15 goals last year were game winning goals last year. He's a good player.
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Gotcha, yes the trade worked out well for both teams. I just wish NYI took Buchnevich instead of Eamon McAdam.
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