Series Talk: [C2] Dallas Stars vs. [C3] Colorado Avalanche | Series tied 3-3

[roryjones]

This...didn't make much sense. Should you be in concussion protocol?

I guess I can explain it better to your simple mind. Cale likes to dive. He goes down too easy. Do you need more or can you comprehend that?

 

[Muffin]

I guess I can explain it better to your simple mind. Cale likes to dive. He goes down too easy. Do you need more or can you comprehend that?

I mean that's ironic considering your team employs Marchment ...

 

[roryjones]

I mean that's ironic considering your team employs Marchment ...

True. But surprisingly, he has not been diving this year. Normally he is flopping all over the place…just like Makar.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Not feeling optimistic. Avs haven't won a game 7 since 2002

 

[landy]

Anyone know off hand what lines deboar has been sending out vs each av line for the home ice advantage? Curious if it’s made a difference and if each coach has drastically changed anything at home.

I guess I can explain it better to your simple mind. Cale likes to dive. He goes down too easy. Do you need more or can you comprehend that?

hard disagree but whatever. Your posts seem to only try to incite negativity. Makar imo is one of the most ethical players in the league when it comes to that stuff.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Avs with MacKinnon will lose gm7 as they always do, he is
a loser when it counts.

 

[Muffin]

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After going pointless and shotless in game 6 and 7

 

[MBTendy]

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ouuuu burn.

Ya I’m team Mack over McDavid until McDavid proves otherwise.

 

[MBTendy]

Anyone know off hand what lines deboar has been sending out vs each av line for the home ice advantage? Curious if it’s made a difference and if each coach has drastically changed anything at home.

DeBoer was putting out the Benn/Johnston/Dadanov line out there against Mack in game 5.

We’ll see what he does Saturday but I’m not sure DeBoer really line matches the forward lines.

He did however try getting our top line out there against Girard’s pair.

 

[Ararana]

True. But surprisingly, he has not been diving this year. Normally he is flopping all over the place…just like Makar.

As an Avs fan, I'm more than happy for the refs to bury the whistle and just let these guys play in game 7.

The Avs have done very well for themselves in this series 5v5 while Dallas is winning the special teams battles. The less penalties called, the more that helps the Avs IMO.

The Hintz PP goal, my god that was a beautiful power play.

 

[Muffin]

True. But surprisingly, he has not been diving this year. Normally he is flopping all over the place…just like Makar.

I mean he's literally in the second clip...

 

[Ncit3]

So how much will DeBoer's whining about the Refs matter in G7? He does it every time.

 

[Ararana]

DeBoer was putting out the Benn/Johnston/Dadanov line out there against Mack in game 5.

We’ll see what he does Saturday but I’m not sure DeBoer really line matches the forward lines.

He did however try getting our top line out there against Girard’s pair.

In all three games in Dallas, Benn has the most minutes of any winger against Makar. DeBoer is clearly favoring that matchup.

This thread (it's a long one) is a pretty good observation of how DeBoer is using Benn specifically to counter Makar:

 

[redandyellowcametobe]

True. But surprisingly, he has not been diving this year. Normally he is flopping all over the place…just like Makar.

Huh? He’s flopped multiple times this series and is good for two or three a game.

Meanwhile Makar has literally denied penalties and told refs he lost an edge and it wasn’t a trip.

Marchment has the second most diving penalties in the NHL the last 4 years.

 

[MBTendy]

Huh? He’s flopped multiple times this series and is good for two or three a game.

Meanwhile Makar has literally denied penalties and told refs he lost an edge and it wasn’t a trip.

Marchment has the second most diving penalties in the NHL the last 4 years.

Makar has two pretty noticeable dives off the top of my head. The one against Marchment in game 4, and the one last night on Granlund.

That being said, Marchment is no better and I have no issue saying that.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

There's just too much flopping leaguewide. All of the players do it, some are just better at hiding it than others.

 

[landy]

I mean he's literally in the second clip...

Ryrcroft so im sure Stars fans wont even watch it, but Id love to find anyone do the same breakdown against the Avs. Bednar doesnt come off as that type of coach and obviously Deboar is and its kindof sad to see in general from any team, but i understand it. If the refs are dumb enough to call it, take advantage of it. Just doesnt feel as good winning that way if it were me. Very Mighty Ducks 1 Charlie Conway type stuff.

 

[landy]

Makar has two pretty noticeable dives off the top of my head. The one against Marchment in game 4, and the one last night on Granlund.

That being said, Marchment is no better and I have no issue saying that.

The Marchment one if you look closer was a butt end to the mouth and he was bleeding...since it was marchment 1000000% easy to believe he threw the butt end out of his glove an inch.

Have a video of last night against Granlund?

 

[MBTendy]

The Marchment one if you look closer was a butt end to the mouth and he was bleeding...since it was marchment 1000000% easy to believe he threw the butt end out of his glove an inch.

Have a video of last night against Granlund?

We’ve gone back and forth on the Makar/Marchment one already, safe to say we disagree so it’s pointless to go at it again lmao.



Let the record show though, I don’t fault Makar tbh. You do what it takes to win but he definitely flopped pretty hard to ensure he got the call. Granlund is a pretty small player too.

 

[Foppberg]

Avs were seen as a massive favourite going into this series

Very few gave Dallas a chance

Well they didn't know what they were talking about, which is par for the course with Avs coverage. The media creams its pants over Makar And MacKinnon and they stop there.

 

[landy]

We’ve gone back and forth on the Makar/Marchment one already, safe to say we disagree so it’s pointless to go at it again lmao.



Let the record show though, I don’t fault Makar tbh. You do what it takes to win but he definitely flopped pretty hard to ensure he got the call. Granlund is a pretty small player too.

Have a closer angle? More looking to see if he was watching the puck and blindsided or a flop.

Nuke one was 100% interference. Thats simply a missed call vs a dive.

 

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Ryrcroft so im sure Stars fans wont even watch it, but Id love to find anyone do the same breakdown against the Avs. Bednar doesnt come off as that type of coach and obviously Deboar is and its kindof sad to see in general from any team, but i understand it. If the refs are dumb enough to call it, take advantage of it. Just doesnt feel as good winning that way if it were me. Very Mighty Ducks 1 Charlie Conway type stuff.

You couldn't pay me to watch anything from Altitude. The broadcasts I've caught from them over the years have made Jack Edwards seem like he was an impartial party by comparison. I'm fine with home broadcasts making dumb excuses for players (like Daryl Reaugh always blaming the team's shit play for either being too tired or having too much time off, lol), but I strongly dislike commentators who are bigger cheerleaders for a team than some of the fans.

 

[Dr Pepper]

We’ve gone back and forth on the Makar/Marchment one already, safe to say we disagree so it’s pointless to go at it again lmao.



Let the record show though, I don’t fault Makar tbh. You do what it takes to win but he definitely flopped pretty hard to ensure he got the call. Granlund is a pretty small player too.

Wow, those plays are damn near identical.

Could probably debate whether or not the pick was intentional on either play, from Makar or Grandlund there, but the fact the officials didn't treat it the same way isn't a surprise at all.

Officiating in general's a total crapshoot, these teams know that going in.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Makar is the biggest diver on the Avs and my fellow Avs fans shouldn’t even be trying to deny it.

On the other side, you have Benn running into high sticks and Marchment breaking his own neck anytime he is touched in the chest so there’s that.

If you’re not cheating a bit, you don’t want to win bad enough. Welcome to playoff hockey.

 

[SnowStorm]

If you’re not cheating a bit, you don’t want to win bad enough. Welcome to playoff hockey.

Until the league actually decides to start calling embellishing penalties consistently (which I don't see happening) this is how it is going to be.