C Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL (2013 draft) II

[JeromeHP]

Not the best night to evaluate any one from the Mooseheads.

Fucale's patented "I'm not paying attention" goal killed them from the get-go. 16 year old kid in net, my god he looks young with his helmet off, will definitely be working on his focus and concentration in the off-season if he wants to solidify himself as THE top goaltending prospect.

Well... he his. Hfx defense is average at best on their best night. he has played in 73 straight games and not many bad one. Kid for real.

 

[Granlund2Pulkkinen*]

A much older Rimouski team hurt their spirit early on and just repetitively capitalized on a 16 year old goaltender.

Doesn't reflect on the talent of any of them. Just shows that maturity is a major part of the game (especially goaltending).

 

[WeThreeKings]

your patented hate for the kid show lack of ability to evaluate a player...not paying attention to the defese is just horrible...funny even sportsnet anouncers said none of the goals were the kids fault and commented on his poise in the game, again bad evaluation here be WeThreeKings on focus...difference from bad focus and not having any defense

Since there seems to be a lot of backlash. I'm going to just quote one.

In no way shape or form am I hating on the kid. If the kid was perfect, he'd be unquestioned to be challenging for the top spot in the draft. He's 16. 16 years old. He's broken records for wins by a 16 year old in the QMJHL. He's played an exceptional amount of hockey which his body isn't used to.

That being said. In these play-offs, the goals he is letting in are DEFINITELY the variety that occur from a lack of concentration or focus. If any of you watched the Rimouski games in Halifax and the one on Sportsnet last night. You would have had a plethora of goals that were caused because of him not focusing.

If it helps the analysis to explain it deeper. I will. Fucale is a victim of inexperience. When the puck is in a quiet area, he tends to drift off of it and pay more attention to what is going on around him (where are my defenceman, where are the opposing players and what plays do they have?). The teams have been taking advantage of this by letting off shots in quiet areas and catching him off guard.

I am always weary of scouting reports about players that never reveal weaknesses. That is how you weed out good reports and bad reports. He's ****ing 16. He has FLAWS. I am pointing them out. In game 4. The Mooseheads consistently went up by a goal and within minutes were back in a tie game because Fucale simply couldn't keep the puck out of the net. They were some soft goals.

I don't CARE what some announcer said last night. A lot of the goals weren't his fault. The third goal especially was just a great play. But the first goal, early in the period, was an AWFUL goal. Extremely AWFUL. After that, the Mooseheads had nothing. No momentum. No jump. The game was over after that.

The things you like about Fucale? When they are up against the wall in the series; he shines. He's 16 and has had an impressive season. He's got great technique. He's flexible. He's a battler. He is showing that he is trying to read plays and learn what is coming at him, he's definitely a student of the game. His lateral movement is good. He can leave some rebounds in the slot but for the most part he does well to put them into the quiet areas.

And let me reiterate one more time (because you guys seem to only take out the negatives, remember them, and ignore positives). He's 16. Young goalies struggle with consistency, focus and concentration. It is nothing UNIQUE to him. It is nothing that isn't a focal point of improvement for many of the young starters in the NHL.

 

[lavoy]

Not the best night to evaluate any one from the Mooseheads.

Fucale's patented "I'm not paying attention" goal killed them from the get-go. 16 year old kid in net, my god he looks young with his helmet off, will definitely be working on his focus and concentration in the off-season if he wants to solidify himself as THE top goaltending prospect.

These

Not a good night for the Moose, and Critch is suspended... ********

 

[King Mapes]

Since there seems to be a lot of backlash. I'm going to just quote one.

In no way shape or form am I hating on the kid. If the kid was perfect, he'd be unquestioned to be challenging for the top spot in the draft. He's 16. 16 years old. He's broken records for wins by a 16 year old in the QMJHL. He's played an exceptional amount of hockey which his body isn't used to.

That being said. In these play-offs, the goals he is letting in are DEFINITELY the variety that occur from a lack of concentration or focus. If any of you watched the Rimouski games in Halifax and the one on Sportsnet last night. You would have had a plethora of goals that were caused because of him not focusing.

If it helps the analysis to explain it deeper. I will. Fucale is a victim of inexperience. When the puck is in a quiet area, he tends to drift off of it and pay more attention to what is going on around him (where are my defenceman, where are the opposing players and what plays do they have?). The teams have been taking advantage of this by letting off shots in quiet areas and catching him off guard.

I am always weary of scouting reports about players that never reveal weaknesses. That is how you weed out good reports and bad reports. He's ****ing 16. He has FLAWS. I am pointing them out. In game 4. The Mooseheads consistently went up by a goal and within minutes were back in a tie game because Fucale simply couldn't keep the puck out of the net. They were some soft goals.

I don't CARE what some announcer said last night. A lot of the goals weren't his fault. The third goal especially was just a great play. But the first goal, early in the period, was an AWFUL goal. Extremely AWFUL. After that, the Mooseheads had nothing. No momentum. No jump. The game was over after that.

The things you like about Fucale? When they are up against the wall in the series; he shines. He's 16 and has had an impressive season. He's got great technique. He's flexible. He's a battler. He is showing that he is trying to read plays and learn what is coming at him, he's definitely a student of the game. His lateral movement is good. He can leave some rebounds in the slot but for the most part he does well to put them into the quiet areas.

And let me reiterate one more time (because you guys seem to only take out the negatives, remember them, and ignore positives). He's 16. Young goalies struggle with consistency, focus and concentration. It is nothing UNIQUE to him. It is nothing that isn't a focal point of improvement for many of the young starters in the NHL.

But without Fucale we wouldn't be here. Period. Him, Drouin and Nate have carried this team big time and Fucale was instrumental in the comeback against Quebec. He has struggled pretty bad this series in general but hey, the guy is probably tired as hell. Hes 16, he has weaknesses. It happens.

If the game was over after a goal within 2 minutes, you can't blame the goalie. 1 goal shouldn't effect you that much and if it does, you dont deserve to win. Was it soft? Obviously. I had some words about Fucale. But then I remembered how big he has been in the playoffs.

Last offseason had to be by FAR the biggest offseason in Mooshead history. Drafted Drouin and Fucale and then a blockbuster deal to bring Nate in.

 

[scoutman1]

Since there seems to be a lot of backlash. I'm going to just quote one.

In no way shape or form am I hating on the kid. If the kid was perfect, he'd be unquestioned to be challenging for the top spot in the draft. He's 16. 16 years old. He's broken records for wins by a 16 year old in the QMJHL. He's played an exceptional amount of hockey which his body isn't used to.

That being said. In these play-offs, the goals he is letting in are DEFINITELY the variety that occur from a lack of concentration or focus. If any of you watched the Rimouski games in Halifax and the one on Sportsnet last night. You would have had a plethora of goals that were caused because of him not focusing.

If it helps the analysis to explain it deeper. I will. Fucale is a victim of inexperience. When the puck is in a quiet area, he tends to drift off of it and pay more attention to what is going on around him (where are my defenceman, where are the opposing players and what plays do they have?). The teams have been taking advantage of this by letting off shots in quiet areas and catching him off guard.

I am always weary of scouting reports about players that never reveal weaknesses. That is how you weed out good reports and bad reports. He's ****ing 16. He has FLAWS. I am pointing them out. In game 4. The Mooseheads consistently went up by a goal and within minutes were back in a tie game because Fucale simply couldn't keep the puck out of the net. They were some soft goals.

I don't CARE what some announcer said last night. A lot of the goals weren't his fault. The third goal especially was just a great play. But the first goal, early in the period, was an AWFUL goal. Extremely AWFUL. After that, the Mooseheads had nothing. No momentum. No jump. The game was over after that.

The things you like about Fucale? When they are up against the wall in the series; he shines. He's 16 and has had an impressive season. He's got great technique. He's flexible. He's a battler. He is showing that he is trying to read plays and learn what is coming at him, he's definitely a student of the game. His lateral movement is good. He can leave some rebounds in the slot but for the most part he does well to put them into the quiet areas.

And let me reiterate one more time (because you guys seem to only take out the negatives, remember them, and ignore positives). He's 16. Young goalies struggle with consistency, focus and concentration. It is nothing UNIQUE to him. It is nothing that isn't a focal point of improvement for many of the young starters in the NHL.

and again my point to this goes un talked about....you blame Fucale for letting in bad goals for not paying attention which is not correct his focus is one of his strong points to his game.........but the DEFENSE and I will say this again the DEFENSE is letting guys in the slot by themselves, letting guys just stand in front, letting Rimouski have 3 to 4 shots in a row, if by chance you watch the game next time watch how Rimouski is in the slot all the time with no one in front, how they are getting away 3 to 4 shots, how they are on breakaway after breakaway, and you would blame a goalie for this colapse saying he is letting in a goal because he was not paying attention, he reacts to the play not mind reads, hard to react to a shot when the top snipers on the team have all the space and no defensive coverage at all, would that be a focus problem????? you say the team has been scoring in quiet areas on him, im not sure where, most goals have been scored on a lot of breakaways, passes out front where the defense lets there man streak in, guys in the slot with the puck, I have seen a bad goal scored on him yes, but it was not a focus issue, the issue was he was not squeezing to side of the net like he should have been, goalies loose track sometimes where they are in their crease it happens, but it is not a focus problem...again you say the moose scored then a min later Rimouski would score because Fucale couldn't keep the puck out of the net...but that had nothing to do with the guys scoring having prime scoring space given to them by the defense eh...not once have I heard you even say the defense which is one of the worst I have seen positionally, Gillard is playing horrid, Abaulthauser has been making bad plays with the puck over and over, the defense has probably as many turnovers as Rimouski has shots per game, but I guess if the puck goes in the net that is the goalies fault, im not saying he did not let in any bad goals because like any goalie he does.

By the way I know no player is perfect and no one is saying Fucale is, but we are sticking up for his focus which is a strong point of his

 

[lavoy]

Questioning Fucale's focus/composure/concentration is like criticizing MacKinnon's skating... It's their respective strong points.

 

[WeThreeKings]

and again my point to this goes un talked about....you blame Fucale for letting in bad goals for not paying attention which is not correct his focus is one of his strong points to his game.........but the DEFENSE and I will say this again the DEFENSE is letting guys in the slot by themselves, letting guys just stand in front, letting Rimouski have 3 to 4 shots in a row, if by chance you watch the game next time watch how Rimouski is in the slot all the time with no one in front, how they are getting away 3 to 4 shots, how they are on breakaway after breakaway, and you would blame a goalie for this colapse saying he is letting in a goal because he was not paying attention, he reacts to the play not mind reads, hard to react to a shot when the top snipers on the team have all the space and no defensive coverage at all, would that be a focus problem????? you say the team has been scoring in quiet areas on him, im not sure where, most goals have been scored on a lot of breakaways, passes out front where the defense lets there man streak in, guys in the slot with the puck, I have seen a bad goal scored on him yes, but it was not a focus issue, the issue was he was not squeezing to side of the net like he should have been, goalies loose track sometimes where they are in their crease it happens, but it is not a focus problem...again you say the moose scored then a min later Rimouski would score because Fucale couldn't keep the puck out of the net...but that had nothing to do with the guys scoring having prime scoring space given to them by the defense eh...not once have I heard you even say the defense which is one of the worst I have seen positionally, Gillard is playing horrid, Abaulthauser has been making bad plays with the puck over and over, the defense has probably as many turnovers as Rimouski has shots per game, but I guess if the puck goes in the net that is the goalies fault, im not saying he did not let in any bad goals because like any goalie he does.

By the way I know no player is perfect and no one is saying Fucale is, but we are sticking up for his focus which is a strong point of his

Can you read? His focus is fine in scrambles or during big play moments. Its his focus and concentration when the puck is in quiet areas that is his bane. I am not talking about goals scored that are a defensive problem. I am specifically talking about the amount of weak goals he has given up at bad times because the puck is in a quiet area and he isn't paying attention, then gets surprised and lets in a bad goal.

Does that make him a bad goalie? No. Does it mean he does not deserve his accolades? No. Is it the reason why the Mooseheads are down to Rimouski? No. But it sure as hell cost them two games in this series. If you're letting in unscreened shots from bad angles and clearly looking surprised. You're not focused in. He loses his concentration when the puck is in quiet areas. Not in the slot. See: first goal last game. First goal game 7 against Quebec. See Grigorenko's last goal of the Quebec series. For three examples.

 

[scoutman1]

Can you read? His focus is fine in scrambles or during big play moments. Its his focus and concentration when the puck is in quiet areas that is his bane. I am not talking about goals scored that are a defensive problem. I am specifically talking about the amount of weak goals he has given up at bad times because the puck is in a quiet area and he isn't paying attention, then gets surprised and lets in a bad goal.

Does that make him a bad goalie? No. Does it mean he does not deserve his accolades? No. Is it the reason why the Mooseheads are down to Rimouski? No. But it sure as hell cost them two games in this series. If you're letting in unscreened shots from bad angles and clearly looking surprised. You're not focused in. He loses his concentration when the puck is in quiet areas. Not in the slot. See: first goal last game. First goal game 7 against Quebec. See Grigorenko's last goal of the Quebec series. For three examples.

well I can read so please do not 2nd talk what you are saying, you said his downfall is his concentration...as for the bad angel goal it is not like that is an everyday event and EVERY goalie will let in a bad goal here and there, his focus when the puck is in dead zones is fine I see no problem with it, I have scouted goalies for over 16 years now and personally I see no problems with his concentration at all, all goalies like I said let in a bad goal, it is how they rebound from those goals that set them apart from other goalies, his ability to shake off a bad goal and come back strong or stronger is amazing, his focus im not really sure where you see a problem with it, like any goalie once in a blue moon a bad goal will go in it is not focus in Fucales case it is miss judging sometimes like any goalie where he is in his crease, that little problem and it is not happening much to him will come out during time.

 

[King Mapes]

Can you read? His focus is fine in scrambles or during big play moments. Its his focus and concentration when the puck is in quiet areas that is his bane. I am not talking about goals scored that are a defensive problem. I am specifically talking about the amount of weak goals he has given up at bad times because the puck is in a quiet area and he isn't paying attention, then gets surprised and lets in a bad goal.

Does that make him a bad goalie? No. Does it mean he does not deserve his accolades? No. Is it the reason why the Mooseheads are down to Rimouski? No. But it sure as hell cost them two games in this series. If you're letting in unscreened shots from bad angles and clearly looking surprised. You're not focused in. He loses his concentration when the puck is in quiet areas. Not in the slot. See: first goal last game. First goal game 7 against Quebec. See Grigorenko's last goal of the Quebec series. For three examples.

Its almost like hes 16 or something.

So he cost them 2 games in this series but it's also not his fault we're down? Every goalie gives up bad goals.

 

[scoutman1]

Its almost like hes 16 or something.

So he cost them 2 games in this series but it's also not his fault we're down? Every goalie gives up bad goals.

i would not blame him though, the defense IMO is probably one of the worst I have seen in a Moose jersey in a long time...I would blame the defense 95% of the games we gave up and Fucale 5%.

 

[King Mapes]

i would not blame him though, the defense IMO is probably one of the worst I have seen in a Moose jersey in a long time...I would blame the defense 95% of the games we gave up and Fucale 5%.

Well the first goal on Friday should have easily been stopped. But hey, it happens. What about the other 8 goals? or the zero we scored? Always easiest to blame the goalie. Our whole team played like ****.

But he also played in a TON of games in a row with no break so fatigue could be setting in.

 

[scoutman1]

Well the first goal on Friday should have easily been stopped. But hey, it happens. What about the other 8 goals? or the zero we scored? Always easiest to blame the goalie. Our whole team played like ****.

But he also played in a TON of games in a row with no break so fatigue could be setting in.

the coach of the Moosheads has to look at a few things which I find he still has not addressed at all in this series......knowing his defense is a bit ill I am not sure why he has not come up with a plan to try to prevent his players from chasing Rimsouski behind the net and giving up position in front, also attending to how to handel the speed and not letting Rimouski consistantly get the step ahead of them.....he also has to address his power play, horrible horrible powerplay the whole playoffs and year I found, he keeps using the umbrella and Abaulthouser is not the greatest at running it, it is the same play he is always 2nd guessing his shot so the other team just has to take the two wingers that are high and then power play is almost done for, plus the mooseheads never have anyone in front on the power play, usually having a guy cut across when the shot is taken but no screen on the goalie and no on there to really pick up a rebound before Rimouski does....quality shots are few and far on moose power play, I am not sure why he has not addressed that problem? Gillard has been playing horrible defense, I credit three goals a least in the last game to just him...one he let his man just screen Fucale in front, such a screen the goal was scored and Fucale did not move he did not see it at all Gillard was behind the rimouski guy who was standing right in front of the goalie....other part Gillard just glidded for the puck in the corner where Rimouski guy skated hard beat Gillard to the puck sent the pass in front for a goal, I can not remember the 3rd one, but over and over he is having his passes picked off, letting his man walk around him, and he still gets 1st line defensive duty...im baffeled by the mooseheads defense more than anything....not trying...not skating hard...taking horrible shots, having like 50% of passes picked off.

 

[WeThreeKings]

well I can read so please do not 2nd talk what you are saying, you said his downfall is his concentration...as for the bad angel goal it is not like that is an everyday event and EVERY goalie will let in a bad goal here and there, his focus when the puck is in dead zones is fine I see no problem with it, I have scouted goalies for over 16 years now and personally I see no problems with his concentration at all, all goalies like I said let in a bad goal, it is how they rebound from those goals that set them apart from other goalies, his ability to shake off a bad goal and come back strong or stronger is amazing, his focus im not really sure where you see a problem with it, like any goalie once in a blue moon a bad goal will go in it is not focus in Fucales case it is miss judging sometimes like any goalie where he is in his crease, that little problem and it is not happening much to him will come out during time.

When have I ever said it he will not improve over time? All I am doing is being objective and pointing out the area of weakness in his game. If you're a 16 year old goalie (note: Mapes, I've mentioned this many times in my posts); you're going to have flaws. The fact remains that if the biggest flaws right now are focus and concentration when the puck is in the quiet areas, that means you're a damn good prospect. As we see in the NHL, goalies in their early 20s still suffer from these lapses in concentration. It is nothing unusual. However, it has been a problem for Fucale recently and whenever I've seen him play. Fatigue is a factor in this, there's no doubt, he's played a lot of hockey and I don't think a 16 year old is used to that much hockey.

Just because you like a prospect doesn't mean you can't accept that he has faults and flaws. I recognize as a Moose fan Fucale's potential and great performance. Doesn't mean I can't be critical of it. I am well aware that this defensive squad is a nightmare; there isn't much on it in terms of talent. I blame a lot of the 9-0 goals on the defence but the team certainly couldn't recover from the first goal let in by Fucale which is brutal in any league.

Edit: Also, any one know what happened to Desmond? He's from my hometown and he was actually one of their few defenceman during the season that could run the PP efficiently. Had a good shot there (a little undersized as a player) but he stuck up for teammates and would drop the gloves.

 

[Kevin Forbes]

Edit: Also, any one know what happened to Desmond? He's from my hometown and he was actually one of their few defenceman during the season that could run the PP efficiently. Had a good shot there (a little undersized as a player) but he stuck up for teammates and would drop the gloves.

He was effective the first few months of the year (15 of his 16 points coming in the first 28 games of the year) and then seemed to just hit a wall and the points dried up. He's the kind of player who, if he isn't putting up points, he's of limited usefulness in the lineup, especially after the team acquired Duke.

Furthermore, guys like Hardie and Shewfelt were able to be trusted to play a more steady, stay-at-home role and that really limited the opportunity for Desmond in the second half of the season.

 

[WeThreeKings]

He was effective the first few months of the year (15 of his 16 points coming in the first 28 games of the year) and then seemed to just hit a wall and the points dried up. He's the kind of player who, if he isn't putting up points, he's of limited usefulness in the lineup, especially after the team acquired Duke.

Furthermore, guys like Hardie and Shewfelt were able to be trusted to play a more steady, stay-at-home role and that really limited the opportunity for Desmond in the second half of the season.

I knew there wasn't any pro potential in his game. What I had seen from him early in the season was good production (especially PP). Thanks for clearing that up for me. I had assumed injury.

 

[scoutman1]

When have I ever said it he will not improve over time? All I am doing is being objective and pointing out the area of weakness in his game. If you're a 16 year old goalie (note: Mapes, I've mentioned this many times in my posts); you're going to have flaws. The fact remains that if the biggest flaws right now are focus and concentration when the puck is in the quiet areas, that means you're a damn good prospect. As we see in the NHL, goalies in their early 20s still suffer from these lapses in concentration. It is nothing unusual. However, it has been a problem for Fucale recently and whenever I've seen him play. Fatigue is a factor in this, there's no doubt, he's played a lot of hockey and I don't think a 16 year old is used to that much hockey.

Just because you like a prospect doesn't mean you can't accept that he has faults and flaws. I recognize as a Moose fan Fucale's potential and great performance. Doesn't mean I can't be critical of it. I am well aware that this defensive squad is a nightmare; there isn't much on it in terms of talent. I blame a lot of the 9-0 goals on the defence but the team certainly couldn't recover from the first goal let in by Fucale which is brutal in any league.

Edit: Also, any one know what happened to Desmond? He's from my hometown and he was actually one of their few defenceman during the season that could run the PP efficiently. Had a good shot there (a little undersized as a player) but he stuck up for teammates and would drop the gloves.

you are miss understanding what im saying...no where did I say you did not think he would not improve, im not sure where you are getting these things I am saying...you are saying Fucale has bad focus at times, i know being a scout myself that these younger guys still have a lot of work on....what im saying is his focus is top notch, that would be like me saying MA Fleury is a good goalie but he has to work on his reflexes and speed because when he lets a rebound out he sometimes lets in weak goals on the other side...im saying you are evaluating Fucales issue wrong....it is not focus as that is one of his MAJOR strengths, im saying he looses where he is in the net sometime, he is still focused on the play, and he still has holes he leaves open when he is moving in his crease that he has to tighten up, but focus I will fight tooth and nail that focus is not what the issue is...

im not saying anything about how you feel about him, what you think he will be like in the future, if he will get better or not...I dont care if you love or hate the kid...all im saying is your evaluation of him having bad focus at times is wrong and not just in my eyes, as A LOT of scouts besides myself, his own agent, fans and announcers all agree his focus is a major strength...myself I think you are miss interpeting other flaw in his game as focus. Not like he becomes disintrested in the game and his focus on the play is wayyyy beyond his years, all the kid wants to do is win and do what it takes to win, there is no messing around with this kid all he is interested in is winning and will do anything to do so, in nets even our scouting report for him leading up to the draft was his focus and I have seen him many many times in the QMJHL play and his focus is not the problem.

 

[Kevin Forbes]

I knew there wasn't any pro potential in his game. What I had seen from him early in the season was good production (especially PP). Thanks for clearing that up for me. I had assumed injury.

Yeah, Duke pretty much took his roster spot/minutes and then Shewfelt and Hardie jumped ahead of him on the depth chart for the third pairing roles.
When Gillard came back, it pushed Shewfelt out of lineup.

Next season is hard to say (depending on how the OAs play out with Hannay and Gillard), but keep in mind that Weegar will be coming in too. Desmond might be a candidate to be traded or could even find his way to Sherbrooke in the expansion draft.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Heartbreaking loss for the Mooseheads.

I'm still skeptical that the puck crossed the line in OT.

 

[scoutman1]

Heartbreaking loss for the Mooseheads.

I'm still skeptical that the puck crossed the line in OT.

im not sure it did...I watched the game online since im in Quebec at the Combine and the replay they showed it looked like it was half over but not fully over.

 

[Codith]

Definitely questionable, the angles i saw looked like the puck was dead on the line when a stick swept it away. If it was an NHL game with better overhead views I think it would have been called off.

 

[bigdirty]

Horrible way for the season to end. Critchlow missing the last game because he "intentionally" removed a guy's helmet during a fight, and then there's the overtime goal. Didn't look like it crossed the line, but there was no way to really tell conclusively, so I suppose they had to go with the on-ice call.

Still, for a team that everyone was calling a contender for next season, Halifax overachieved this year and MacKinnon was a huge part of that.
Final stats for the playoffs:
17GP 13G 15A 28PTS 12 PIM

For any player not a member of Saint John, those are fantastic numbers, but for a 16 year old rookie, it's pretty unreal. The scary part is he did so much more in the playoffs that isn't reflected in the stats.

 

[GM17*]

MacKinnon's going to drop 100pts next year


at the world juniors

 

[JumboThornton92]

Whats the word on MacKinnon's teammate Darcy Ashley? I remember a little buzz about him and I do believe he is draft eligible this year as-well, always seems to get better statistically.

 

[LeafDangler]

Whats the word on MacKinnon's teammate Darcy Ashley? I remember a little buzz about him and I do believe he is draft eligible this year as-well, always seems to get better statistically.

Small + poor skating = no chance. Hard working guy but when the pace picks up he just can't keep up. Relegated to 3rd line duty in the playoffs.