C Jake Wise - Boston Univ., NCAA (2018, 69th, CHI)

[thelittlecoon]

I think you know what i meant.

Do you mean he should’ve went late first to mid second round? Or that’s where he’ll be in a redraft?

 

[CallMeShaft]

Do you mean he should’ve went late first to mid second round? Or that’s where he’ll be in a redraft?

He's saying that Wise should've gone in the first round. Grammatical errors just made it a little confusing to read.

 

[thelittlecoon]

He's saying that Wise should've gone in the first round. Grammatical errors just made it a little confusing to read.

Gotcha. I think he should've went higher for sure too. Feel like he's one of those players Bob McKenzie was talking about that falls in the draft because a few teams like another player just a bit more. He should put up big numbers in NCAA this season if given an opportunity in BU's top 6.

 

[Rogie21]

Gotcha. I think he should've went higher for sure too. Feel like he's one of those players Bob McKenzie was talking about that falls in the draft because a few teams like another player just a bit more. He should put up big numbers in NCAA this season if given an opportunity in BU's top 6.

Given the current number of returning top six candidates on BU's roster--plus first round pick Farabee--he'll likely start as the third line center. But he'll get plenty of icetime and PP time, too.

 

[AmericanDream]

rough year for Jake...he now seems done for the year with a shoulder injury..hopefully he can bounce back health wise and BU can improve overall next year as well...

 

[justafan22]

man what happened with the hype here?

 

[Thebesthockey]

rough year for Jake...he now seems done for the year with a shoulder injury..hopefully he can bounce back health wise and BU can improve overall next year as well...

honestly he should have gone to mooseheads ( especially in memorial cup yr)

but easier said after the fact


but i am a big beleiver of chl for 1st and 2nd rounders

 

[Peasy]

honestly he should have gone to mooseheads ( especially in memorial cup yr)

but easier said after the fact


but i am a big beleiver of chl for 1st and 2nd rounders

Then he misses out on his college education.

 

[Thebesthockey]

Then he misses out on his college education.

honestly if your a first round or early second round the focus most times is on hockey first education second

not sure any nhl club is waiting around for 4 yrs on first early second round choices

who have been first round choices/early second that have finished their 4 yrs ?

 

[Rowlet]

One of my favorites in the 3 round, could see him go around late first to mid second round.

whoops

 

[bigdog16]

honestly he should have gone to mooseheads ( especially in memorial cup yr)

but easier said after the fact


but i am a big beleiver of chl for 1st and 2nd rounders

Goodluck trying to tell a kid from Boston to go to the Q. They are more loyal to the Hockey East than kids from Toronto are to the OHL

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

The travel in junior hockey is brutal especially in the Q or WHL. If I'm an American, I would explore the options in the US. Heck if I'm a Canadian I just might prefer NCAA as opposed to difficult travel in junior hockey.

 

[Son of Petter]

Wasn’t happy we skipped over him, hope the kid gets back on track.

 

[Kalost]

honestly if your a first round or early second round the focus most times is on hockey first education second

not sure any nhl club is waiting around for 4 yrs on first early second round choices

who have been first round choices/early second that have finished their 4 yrs ?

The man, the myth, the legend Mark Jankowski!

 

[bigdog16]

honestly if your a first round or early second round the focus most times is on hockey first education second

not sure any nhl club is waiting around for 4 yrs on first early second round choices

who have been first round choices/early second that have finished their 4 yrs ?

You can always go back to school and finish you degree later in life if hockey doesnt work out, and getting a heard start doesnt hurt. Plus college hockey may be less games, but its better competition. Every player’s development is different. Its worked for some, hasnt for others, just like the CHL

 

[Thebesthockey]

The man, the myth, the legend Mark Jankowski!

lol

only one in last 10 years ?

 

[member 157595]

Goodluck trying to tell a kid from Boston to go to the Q. They are more loyal to the Hockey East than kids from Toronto are to the OHL

Indeed. NCAA hockey is ingrained in the culture here and convincing a local boy to give up both his NCAA eligibility and an education at a prestigious university to play CHL hockey is difficult. It happens but it's rare.

 

[kabidjan18]

It's pretty easy to get a degree in 3 years, and leave after your junior year.

 

[Thebesthockey]

Indeed. NCAA hockey is ingrained in the culture here and convincing a local boy to give up both his NCAA eligibility and an education at a prestigious university to play CHL hockey is difficult. It happens but it's rare.

later 2nd 3rd 4th 5th round ...ok agree

first round and early second ?? all nhl expectation is that hockey is first education second

during the combine tell the teams your focus is school first....see what happens

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

3 points in 3 games. Already more than he scored in 12 games last year.

It's as if he might've been held back by a shoulder injury last season.

 

[wankstifier]

Then he misses out on his college education.

I doubt the value of a college education for an athlete. It's difficult, near impossible without a special kind of discipline, to balance rigorous study and training. Most athletes focus on one or the other. Rarely, there are student-athletes who are exceptional.

If a prospect has NHL upside, "education" is not a priority.

 

[tealhockey]

I doubt the value of a college education for an athlete. It's difficult, near impossible without a special kind of discipline, to balance rigorous study and training. Most athletes focus on one or the other. Rarely, there are student-athletes who are exceptional.

If a prospect has NHL upside, "education" is not a priority.

Alternatively, if a prospect has downsides to his game and doesn't want to spend years grinding in the minors, college is a great place to develop discipline and get, in BU's case, an education worth well over 250K for playing hockey. Probably the best years of your life versus the minors which may well be the worst years of your life.

 

[wankstifier]

Alternatively, if a prospect has downsides to his game and doesn't want to spend years grinding in the minors, college is a great place to develop discipline and get, in BU's case, an education worth well over 250K for playing hockey. Probably the best years of your life versus the minors which may well be the worst years of your life.

I'll make the qualification that the degree may be worth that much, but the athlete isn't going to be learning enough in an undergrad program to justify that valuation.

There are exceptions, but in general, I think it'd be a mistake to hire an athlete to any position that requires a technical background.

 

[tealhockey]

I'll make the qualification that the degree may be worth that much, but the athlete isn't going to be learning enough in an undergrad program to justify that valuation.

There are exceptions, but in general, I think it'd be a mistake to hire an athlete to any position that requires a technical background.

Let's not get too into the weeds. I don't know if you can justify the valuation regardless, but the fact is the degree costs that much and being a BU hockey alum gives you priceless connections in the hockey world if playing doesn't work out, even if we disregard the piece of paper itself. I also think playing at BU is much more preferable to being a full time hockey player who can be cut and deployed at will whereas at BU they are really tied to you as a player having success. They can't really just replace you similar to the way they can in pro sports, they've made an investment in you. You have access to facilities and a lot of resources as a player, athlete, student and a human being. In Jake's case, I really don't think he is much of an asset for the pro game today, whereas his next three years at BU may very well turn him into a fringe/future NHLer.

 

[wankstifier]

Let's not get too into the weeds. I don't know if you can justify the valuation regardless, but the fact is the degree costs that much and being a BU hockey alum gives you priceless connections in the hockey world if playing doesn't work out, even if we disregard the piece of paper itself. I also think playing at BU is much more preferable to being a full time hockey player who can be cut and deployed at will whereas at BU they are really tied to you as a player having success. They can't really just replace you similar to the way they can in pro sports, they've made an investment in you. You have access to facilities and a lot of resources as a player, athlete, student and a human being. In Jake's case, I really don't think he is much of an asset for the pro game today, whereas his next three years at BU may very well turn him into a fringe/future NHLer.

Fair enough. I'm prone to tangents.