BigHitter67
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The scientific name is the relative -age effectYup, nailed it. Its so common in a sport like hockey
The scientific name is the relative -age effectYup, nailed it. Its so common in a sport like hockey
Here he was considered a player of the same level or better than Eiserman and Celebrini.Okay... What's the point of ripping on him? Doing well for Shattuck Prep and committed to Michigan, meaning he's a better hockey player that 99.99% of the people on here and like 98% of his peers.
Probably 2nd-3rd round ? I am very skeptical about it.It’s not true either.
He’s a good hockey player. He’s not as good as Celebrini and Eiserman. Did anyone ever think he was? As far as I remember, he was always talked about as the third guy.
He will probably go second or third round from prep hockey.
Scott Wheeler last month ranked him 55 on his 2024 list. Not saying that’s the end all be all, but don’t you think it suggests he’s being discussed in that range?Probably 2nd-3rd round ? I am very skeptical about it.
Thats not true. He was every bit as good if not better than Celebrini and Eiserman a couple years ago. Difference is that those two improved and Park’s development seems to have stagnated a bit. He was an early bloomer, it happens oftenStill not playing in USHL. Don't dominate his team. He clearly benefited from the presence of Eiserman and Celebrini 3 seasons ago and was probably never in the picture.
Brodie Ziemer had taken his place on the 1st line. Failed at USDP...the coaches knew what they were doing.
He will still get drafted. 2nd round is a reach at this point but probably somewhere in rounds 3-5. He was good enough to make NTDP and he was a surprising omission.Probably 2nd-3rd round ? I am very skeptical about it.
In 2020-21, he lost his place on the 1st line to the detriment of Brodie Ziemer.Thats not true. He was every bit as good if not better than Celebrini and Eiserman a couple years ago. Difference is that those two improved and Park’s development seems to have stagnated a bit. He was an early bloomer, it happens often
He will still get drafted. 2nd round is a reach at this point but probably somewhere in rounds 3-5. He was good enough to make NTDP and he was a surprising omission.
1. Who cares what line he was on at 14U lol. This could have very well just been to even things out. Not to mention he had friggin 133 points in 50 games.....In 2020-21, he lost his place on the 1st line to the detriment of Brodie Ziemer.
In 2022, he was rejected from the USDP selection.
In 2023/24, he failed to secure a spot in the USHL and is not even the best scorer (and probably player) in his Prep team.
His only weapon is his points accumulated alongside the two best players in the world 3 years ago.
1. Who cares what line he was on at 14U lol. This could have very well just been to even things out. Not to mention he had friggin 133 points in 50 games.....
2. Again who cares, USA Hockey has missed on many players
3. Maybe they thoughts SSM was the best route for his development. Again theres been tons of players who have made it to the NHL taking this route...
Dude, not sure what your obsession is about him. Everyone agrees he was an early bloomer. At one point he was in the same conversation as Celebrini and Eiserman, he isn't anymore. There are players like this at the u14 level at literally every single age group. He's got a full boat to Michigan and will get drafted. He will get a free education at an incredible school, probably doesn't become an NHL superstar, but could still play professionally at some capacity if he wanted to1. It's your theory. In fact, Brodie Ziemer is clearly better than him today so it is not impossible to think that the coach has already observed this.
2. Yes, but Park has done nothing to deny it. His USHL team didn't call him either. His Prep School stats aren't crazy.
3. In this case, why are you going to do the USDP selection camps if you think that the best route is to stay in Prep School (which seems unconvincing) ?!?
When someone sells me false things, I have the right to take the pleasure of noticing the error.Dude, not sure what your obsession is about him. Everyone agrees he was an early bloomer. At one point he was in the same conversation as Celebrini and Eiserman, he isn't anymore. There are players like this at the u14 level at literally every single age group. He's got a full boat to Michigan and will get drafted. He will get a free education at an incredible school, probably doesn't become an NHL superstar, but could still play professionally at some capacity if he wanted to
If he is an NHL pick you can almost guarantee he is getting a full ride. He would just go elsewhere if he didn't get one. My point is that a majority of NHL picks get full scholarships wherever they goThe way hockey scholarships work, it’s possible he’s more like a 1/4 scholarship to Michigan. May end up going somewhere else. Who knows. Those really early commits have a way of not always holding.
Literally everything you have said has zero proof behind it.When someone sells me false things, I have the right to take the pleasure of noticing the error.
Michigan is 2 years away and that doesn't guarantee anything. He will play his U19 season in the USHL.
NHL draft lists are full of players who were out early and never had a professional career.If he is an NHL pick you can almost guarantee he is getting a full ride. He would just go elsewhere if he didn't get one. My point is that a majority of NHL picks get full scholarships wherever they go
Literally everything you have said has zero proof behind it.
Yeah there are things short of outright dropping a kid that a program can do to not have to revoke an offer and say they stood by it, but that accomplish what they'd like if they want to open up a roster spot.I have a feeling Park’s spot will get filled by someone else especially the 25 class is so stacked
Yup... or, "Congratulations, you're on the team as we agreed three years ago. There's your spot down at the end of the bench."Yeah there are things short of outright dropping a kid that a program can do to not have to revoke an offer and say they stood by it, but that accomplish what they'd like if they want to open up a roster spot.
"That offer you committed to when you were 16? It's still good, but you can't join us until you're a 21 year old freshman that's exhausted Junior eligibility and played an overage season, and we're only going to give you a 25 % scholarship, and we reckon you'll be out of the lineup more than in your first year... so if wearing the Maize & Blue is your lifelong dream, we'll see you then.. if you want to shop around and use a Michigan Commitment as leverage to end up in a more favorable spot for you, we won't be offended."
His selection in the draft is not a given and it is not an end in itself.This slope is getting way too slippery.
Park is 17 years old. He’s not 27. He isn’t even old enough to have been drafted into the NHL yet.
Acting like his career is over is insane, and it’s one guy patting himself on the back for deciphering the box scores well years back that he was worse than Celebrini and Eiserman at a time no one should be caring about box scores for the 2024 eligibles.
Park will not have his spot taken at Michigan. The post earlier saying you will have a spot on any team if you are a draft pick is a good rule of thumb. Park will be drafted. He’s not some small, skill forward that needs top 6 or bust. He can play anywhere in the lineup. If he wants to play for Michigan, he will. There’s no indication he doesn’t want to. This is a stupid discussion.
And just because Park isn’t going to be selected where Celebrini and Eiserman are doesn’t make him a failure or bust. Was anyone here watching him play back then or only looking at the boxscores? He may never have been that caliber of player. It happens all the time where players are touted as future early first round picks before they get to juniors, and then when they get there you see clearly that they don’t have the ability for it.
He will get drafted somewhere between the 2nd and 5th rounds. He still has half a season to prove a more defined range, and then he’ll continue on next season. Don’t condemn his hockey career because he hasn’t met expectations that might have been completely warped to begin with.
Unless you have an inside scoop on this, where are you getting this idea from?Not being able to be retained in your USHL team to play the season is a disavowal.
There is one who plays in the top 6 of the USDP and the other who is recalled from the selection of his USHL team after being recalled from the USDP selection. We wonder who is the best... Not even a debate.Brodie Ziemer is not clearly better. And they don't even play the same position. Ziemer is a winger. Park is a center. The idea that Ziemer took Park's spot doesn't make sense. Logically, there's room for both, as either could be a fourth line player, if needed.
And the idea that he's not playing USHL this year because his team didn't want him is something there's no proof for. He may have decided on his own to not play USHL.