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C Dylan Strome - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft)
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BabyBennettov
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How else is he supposed to make his point look legit?
And you think that picking Strome draft-year stats is legit to rank him above Ekblad ?
Ekblad didn't have McDavid on the PP in his draft-year... Ekblad was the best defenseman in the CHL in his draft year.
And for people not believing in Ekblad's ceiling or his capacity to adapt to the pro-level, those people just wanted to play the Craig Button role and go against the general opinion.
But I'm not having this discussion once again, I had it on the Panthers board last year and on this board too.
Ekblad just had the Tavares-syndrome... Too good for too long at the junior-level, so fans and scouts only look at the weaknesses and what he can improve on !
Remember that Duchene and Hedman were better than Tavares ? Pretty sure you were one of those...
Don't bother, I was a big Hedman-fan myself !
But not a chance that Strome gets picked before Ekblad, just like Bennett and Reinhart didn't have a chance against Ekblad's ceiling and pedigree.
And it isn't a knock against Strome, even though I'm not a fan of the kid, he just isn't on Ekblad's level. Just like Hanifin isn't on Ekblad's level.
But that doesn't make this draft less impressive.
People just forget how special of a player Ekblad is.
WTFMAN99
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And you think that picking Strome draft-year stats is legit to rank him above Ekblad ?
Ekblad didn't have McDavid on the PP in his draft-year... Ekblad was the best defenseman in the CHL in his draft year.
And for people not believing in Ekblad's ceiling or his capacity to adapt to the pro-level, those people just wanted to play the Craig Button role and go against the general opinion.
But I'm not having this discussion once again, I had it on the Panthers board last year and on this board too.
Ekblad just had the Tavares-syndrome... Too good for too long at the junior-level, so fans and scouts only look at the weaknesses and what he can improve on !
Remember that Duchene and Hedman were better than Tavares ? Pretty sure you were one of those...
Don't bother, I was a big Hedman-fan myself !
But not a chance that Strome gets picked before Ekblad, just like Bennett and Reinhart didn't have a chance against Ekblad's ceiling and pedigree.
And it isn't a knock against Strome, even though I'm not a fan of the kid, he just isn't on Ekblad's level. Just like Hanifin isn't on Ekblad's level.
But that doesn't make this draft less impressive.
People just forget how special of a player Ekblad is.
How do you project the top 5?
1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Hanifin
4. Strome/Marner
5. Strome/Marner
And you think that picking Strome draft-year stats is legit to rank him above Ekblad ?
Ekblad didn't have McDavid on the PP in his draft-year... Ekblad was the best defenseman in the CHL in his draft year.
And for people not believing in Ekblad's ceiling or his capacity to adapt to the pro-level, those people just wanted to play the Craig Button role and go against the general opinion.
But I'm not having this discussion once again, I had it on the Panthers board last year and on this board too.
Ekblad just had the Tavares-syndrome... Too good for too long at the junior-level, so fans and scouts only look at the weaknesses and what he can improve on !
Remember that Duchene and Hedman were better than Tavares ? Pretty sure you were one of those...
Don't bother, I was a big Hedman-fan myself !
But not a chance that Strome gets picked before Ekblad, just like Bennett and Reinhart didn't have a chance against Ekblad's ceiling and pedigree.
And it isn't a knock against Strome, even though I'm not a fan of the kid, he just isn't on Ekblad's level. Just like Hanifin isn't on Ekblad's level.
But that doesn't make this draft less impressive.
People just forget how special of a player Ekblad is.
Not saying I'd have Strome above Ekblad, but I think it's reasonable to compare the two players' draft seasons when discussing where they'd go in the draft.
There is a strong argument that it is actually far more meaningful to compare their CHL development years instead of basing it off age. Ekblad was drafted as a 3rd year OHL player. Strome is being drafted as a 2nd year OHL player.
Compare Ekblad's (or Reinhart's) 2nd year to Strome's 2nd year. This is the fairest comparison and in this regard what Strome (and Marner) has done is pretty special.
And you think that picking Strome draft-year stats is legit to rank him above Ekblad ?
Ekblad didn't have McDavid on the PP in his draft-year... Ekblad was the best defenseman in the CHL in his draft year.
And for people not believing in Ekblad's ceiling or his capacity to adapt to the pro-level, those people just wanted to play the Craig Button role and go against the general opinion.
But I'm not having this discussion once again, I had it on the Panthers board last year and on this board too.
Ekblad just had the Tavares-syndrome... Too good for too long at the junior-level, so fans and scouts only look at the weaknesses and what he can improve on !
Remember that Duchene and Hedman were better than Tavares ? Pretty sure you were one of those...
Don't bother, I was a big Hedman-fan myself !
But not a chance that Strome gets picked before Ekblad, just like Bennett and Reinhart didn't have a chance against Ekblad's ceiling and pedigree.
And it isn't a knock against Strome, even though I'm not a fan of the kid, he just isn't on Ekblad's level. Just like Hanifin isn't on Ekblad's level.
But that doesn't make this draft less impressive.
People just forget how special of a player Ekblad is.
could it be he's so special because he's on the panthers. this is a strome thread
The Podium
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And you think that picking Strome draft-year stats is legit to rank him above Ekblad ?
Ekblad didn't have McDavid on the PP in his draft-year... Ekblad was the best defenseman in the CHL in his draft year.
And for people not believing in Ekblad's ceiling or his capacity to adapt to the pro-level, those people just wanted to play the Craig Button role and go against the general opinion.
But I'm not having this discussion once again, I had it on the Panthers board last year and on this board too.
Ekblad just had the Tavares-syndrome... Too good for too long at the junior-level, so fans and scouts only look at the weaknesses and what he can improve on !
Remember that Duchene and Hedman were better than Tavares ? Pretty sure you were one of those...
Don't bother, I was a big Hedman-fan myself !
But not a chance that Strome gets picked before Ekblad, just like Bennett and Reinhart didn't have a chance against Ekblad's ceiling and pedigree.
And it isn't a knock against Strome, even though I'm not a fan of the kid, he just isn't on Ekblad's level. Just like Hanifin isn't on Ekblad's level.
But that doesn't make this draft less impressive.
People just forget how special of a player Ekblad is.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/league_total.php?season=%&leagueid=OHL&leagueteam=&nation=&sort=u18
No one is discrediting Ekblad but Strome and Marner have had a better u18 season than all but Tavares over the last 20 years.
That's what HF does. Instead of celebrating the accomplishments of the player, it devolves into prospect comparisons and a giant pissing match.
Who honestly cares what prospect would go before who, that comes down to the teams picking. Such a pointless debate.
It's only a pissing match when it comes to players the leafs might draft. Other fanbases don't want to acknowledge that Toronto will be getting a good player so they start devaluing these players earlier so when Toronto picks them they can be labeled busts
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Auston 3:16
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Best part is, it's already begun. 'He's a product of playing with McDavid', 'He can't skate', blah, blah, blah. Other fan bases must be pretty certain the Leafs are getting Strome.
I think Strome's skating needs work but it's not a travesty like people make him out to be, it's around average I'd say.
He'd be great on the Leafs because developing skating is a strong suit of the team, you don't see many players brought into the organization with skating issues keep those skating issues (An example this year would be Conner Brown). Barb Underhill is a wizard.
He'd be great on the Leafs because developing skating is a strong suit of the team, you don't see many players brought into the organization with skating issues keep those skating issues (An example this year would be Conner Brown). Barb Underhill is a wizard.
Before you play the victim card, try being an Oil fan.
Already people are saying Strome>Draisaitl..
They weren't even in the same ******* draft year.
I'm of the camp that is afraid that a lot of Strome's production was due to PP time with McDavid. Can someone please post some stats or some valid scouting opinions to prove me otherwise? I really want to like this guy, but I'm skeptical over here.
I'm more so looking to see how effective he is alone (i.e ES scoring, PPG, etc.)
I'm more so looking to see how effective he is alone (i.e ES scoring, PPG, etc.)
dubey
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i just did the math on that a few weeks ago, it was in the Strome vs. Marner thread, I'm too lazy to go find it but I can tell you it was pretty much even.
EDIT: here I found it, this was about two weeks ago so the numbers have likely changed a bit but the point stands they are pretty close in ES production
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Mark Stone, one of the best rookies in the league this year wasn't a particularly good skater either. But if you work at improving it, and have a $hit pile of hockey sense it don't hold you back.
Strome looks too smart to not have success. I just don't think it will come immediately and I hope there is some patience for him, especially if he is a Leaf.
Strome looks too smart to not have success. I just don't think it will come immediately and I hope there is some patience for him, especially if he is a Leaf.
Toronto and their media is good with their young kids, they're never tough on them. It's the vets that get the brunt of it. The only young kid of note that's dealt with **** from the media has been Kadri and I'm pretty sure that was cause he wasn't your standard white robotic canadian kid
dubey
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hah interesting
Could have swore I read that here after watching Strome's 6 point night on Sunday. Nice to see the actual numbers though.
FlareKnight
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It does seem like people are way too critical. For any prospect what you end up reading is what they do poorly or their risk factor.
Rather than saying "wow that's a nice prospect" and talking about what a guy can do well.
I mean yeah things might go poorly drafting anyone (outside of really the top 2), but seems like it'd be a lot more fun to look at the bright side of all these top prospects.
Rather than saying "wow that's a nice prospect" and talking about what a guy can do well.
I mean yeah things might go poorly drafting anyone (outside of really the top 2), but seems like it'd be a lot more fun to look at the bright side of all these top prospects.
I mean he scored 35 points in 21 games when McDavid was hurt/at world juniors. Slightly worse than his full season production, points per game wise, but still very very good.
I think the problem is that he's 1 'weakness' away from being a legit no. 1 overall type prospect. Unfortunately for him, it's his skating, so its fairly obvious to critics, and its also a critical part of the transition to the NHL. But his hands, vision, and release are all world class.
To me, I think he's skating will come around, just like his brother. He's pretty underrated in that category as it is, especially considering his size and age. I don't see that as his biggest weakness.
I think stylistically, he's going to have to prove he can use his size to his advantage at the next level, because he'll never be considered fast. His play now reminds me of a skilled player trapped in a big man's body. He gets away with it because he is so skilled, but there aren't a lot of successful NHLers who are big, 'slow', and don't take advantage of their size, which is why I see more bust potential in Strome than with Marner. For Strome, its about puck protection, balance, and strength around the net. If he can work on those areas, sky's the limit.
My final projection is that he ends up a weaker Backstrom type player, maybe topping out as a top 15 center. But he's got the potential to be top 5.
