Busting The Patrick Roy Myth

[Yamaguchi*]

Didn't answer it sufficiently. He played with great players is a two sided argument. It's saying that Smith didnt have to be great to win. And maybe they should have won more. Roy played with great players as well in Colarado. He just was so much better than them in the playoffs.

Better than Sakic?

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Well, Billy was one of the players that made Islanders a better team

I'm sure Trottier, Bossy, and Potvin loom rather larger in this picture

 

[Yamaguchi*]

I'm sure Trottier, Bossy, and Potvin loom rather larger in this picture

Don't forget Nystrom.

Shall we start a new poll -- better playoff goalie: Billy vs Roy

 

[BamBamCam*]

I'm sure Trottier, Bossy, and Potvin loom rather larger in this picture

Don't stop there, Goring, Nystrom, Gillies.....

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Don't forget Nystrom.

Shall we start a new poll -- better playoff goalie: Billy vs Roy

You sure you want to subject yourself to the embarrassment? It's a no-brainer.....

 

[Yamaguchi*]

Don't stop there, Goring, Nystrom, Gillies.....

Nystrom!

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Don't stop there, Goring, Nystrom, Gillies.....

Tonelli, Sutter x2.....

 

[Yamaguchi*]

You sure you want to subject yourself to the embarrassment? It's a no-brainer.....

Billy got 4 Cups in a row. Nothing embarassing

 

[BamBamCam*]

Tonelli, Sutter x2.....

Oh yeah thats right. Jeez, I forget how sick that team was. It assuredly was a better stacked team than the Oilers dynasty. And yes, that is debatable but I always pick those Islander teams.

 

[King Forsberg]

Better than Sakic?

In one Stanley Cup run no. In the other, yes. In the rest of the playoff runs I'd say yes.

 

[King Forsberg]

Don't forget Nystrom.

Shall we start a new poll -- better playoff goalie: Billy vs Roy

PLEASE make that poll.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Billy Smith was the greatest money goalie to ever live. Roy was a machine in the playoffs but Smith could be a one man show himself and he was playing behind a team with what 4 HoF'rs?

-Cant take him over Roy overall but if you had to pick a goalie for a do or-die situation,hard to pass on Smith. Guy breathed fire and brimstone.

 

[Yamaguchi*]

Oh yeah thats right. Jeez, I forget how sick that team was. It assuredly was a better stacked team than the Oilers dynasty. And yes, that is debatable but I always pick those Islander teams.

One of the greatest teams ever

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Billy got 4 Cups in a row. Nothing embarassing

It's not Smith that's going to be embarrassed.....it's you

 

[wisers87]

Billy got four Cups too.

The Islanders had so many superstars that it was impossible that the same player would get a Conn Smythe every year.

Wouldn't that also be similiar to saying that any goalie could have won with those teams?

 

[Sadekuuro]

Playoff OT record of 40-16 (24-6 as a Hab!!!), next closest is Belfour at 22-24.

For the sake of accuracy, I believe it's 40-18. Two additional losses in '03. Still ridiculous.

 

[quoipourquoi]

I would rank Patrick Roy 4th on the all time list of netminders:

1 - Tretiak

2 - Smith, Billy

3 - Hasek

4 - Roy

5 - Plante

On February 20th...

Here is my top five:

1 Tretiak (a no-brainer)

2 Roy

3 Billy Smith (heavily underrated in this forum)

4 Hasek

5 Sawchuk

 

[Rhiessan71]

For the sake of accuracy, I believe it's 40-18. Two additional losses in '03. Still ridiculous.

I think you're right but the 24-6 as a Hab is correct (and completely insane!) and that's the big one with the weaker team to boot.

 

[habsfanatics*]

Revising history would be a more appropriate thread title.

 

[BamBamCam*]

Revising history would be a more appropriate thread title.

Give me a starting point and I'll have it finished by Tuesday 9 am.

 

[Killion]

On February 20th...

The Eddie Shack, Theo Fleury of hf. Running Riot. Blatantly obvious even without the damning evidence
quoipourquoi. Hey, guys gotta have fun. Those types of players quite useful as you know, entertaining.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Billy Smith was the greatest money goalie to ever live. Roy was a machine in the playoffs but Smith could be a one man show himself and he was playing behind a team with what 4 HoF'rs?

-Cant take him over Roy overall but if you had to pick a goalie for a do or-die situation,hard to pass on Smith. Guy breathed fire and brimstone.

disagree and I am old enough to have seen that little psycho play

best Billy Smith story was after the final whistle of a game,. Smith made a B-line to the dressing room--he had already showed and changed and was heading out the door as the last NYI was just heading into the dressing room. Trottier has some great Smith stories

 

[Yamaguchi*]

On February 20th...

The Feb 20th list where I'd ranked Roy second is based on career achievements & stats. Roy got more Smythes and Vezinas than Billy so let him be higher.


However, my latest list where Smith had been ranked above Roy is based on who I see a better choice to start Game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals. I picked Billy (actually I explained that in one of my earlier posts in this thread).

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

The Feb 20th list where I'd ranked Roy second is based on career achievements & stats. Roy got more Smythes and Vezinas than Billy so let him be higher.


However, my latest list where Smith had been ranked above Roy is based on who I see a better choice to start Game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals. I picked Billy (actually I explained that in one of my earlier posts in this thread).

And of course, Tretiak is the best choice to start game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals because he's sooo experienced there...

 

[Yamaguchi*]

And of course, Tretiak is the best choice to start game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals because he's sooo experienced there...

Well, I think Tretiak had his proper Game 7 experience in the 1981 Canada Cup final when he faced the joint forces of the Isles, Gretzky, LaFleur, Dionne etc.