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613Leafer said:
I wouldn't assume he can be easily replaced. Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kerfoot, etc have been tried in the top 6, and none have been nearly as effective as Bunting. Just because you're playing with 2 of Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander doesn't at all make it a given that you'll be able to put up ~60 points.

I agree we can't just write a blank cheque here, but we got VERY lucky when we replaced Hyman with Bunting. I wouldn't assume we can easily do it again, especially as we've obviously been trying to fill the second top 6 LW spot for years, without success.
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Very true. We were lucky to find Bunting. Hes not as good as Hyman though. Im a pretty strong believer Knies will be better than Bunting in no time. So if we are re-signig ROR for top 6 we might be okay to let him walk.
 
Keep in mind the source. Kypreos is a goof.

He's also the one who had Brandt Clarke as done deal traded by LA to Phoenix to Arizona. To the point teams/agents had to come out and deny it.

Not to mention his Matthews contract demands.

Looking for clicks, and he's being successful.
 
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ULF_55 said:
Just asking, not making a judgement here, but do his antics help or hinder the team?
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His ability to agitate helps when drawing penalties for the opposition. It's always possible for such antics to hinder at times as well. You're thinking he was dropped down the lineup for reasons due to his antics? That at least makes more sense than it being for contractually related reasons.
 
Isaac Nootin said:
Keep in mind the source. Kypreos is a goof.

He's also the one who had Brandt Clarke as done deal traded by LA to Phoenix to Arizona. To the point teams/agents had to come out and deny it.

Not to mention his Matthews contract demands.

Looking for clicks, and he's being successful.
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Hes making it up for sure. But doesn't mean hes not in the ballpark. Production wise Bunting should be earning around that much.
 
Our LW depth is weak, even with Bunting.

Here are the projected 2023 LW UFA's that may/may not make it to Market:

James Van RiemsdykPHIUFA33.8LW6' 3"208L4391423$7,000,000
Max PaciorettyVGKUFA34.2LW6' 2"217L533$7,000,000
Milan LucicCGYUFA34.8LW6' 3"240L625914$6,000,000
Pierre-Luc DuboisWPGRFA24.7LW6' 2"205L61243155$6,000,000
Timo MeierNJDUFA26.4LW6' 1"220L59322153$6,000,000
Jason ZuckerPITUFA31.1LW5' 11"192L59211839$5,500,000
Jonathan DrouinMTLUFA27.9LW5' 11"198L4112122$5,500,000
Jesper BrattNJDRFA24.6LW5' 10"175L63253358$5,450,000
Evgenii DadonovDALUFA33.9LW5' 11"189L5551621$5,000,000
Tyler BertuzziBOSUFA28.0LW6' 1"197L3041115$4,750,000
Tomas TatarNJDUFA32.2LW5' 10"173L63142337$4,500,000
Nick FolignoBOSUFA35.3LW6' 0"210L60101626$3,800,000
Alexis LafrenièreNYRRFA21.3LW6' 1"192$925,000
Micheal FerlandVANUFA30.8LW6' 1"217L$3,500,000
Andreas JohnssonSJSUFA28.2LW5' 10"195L722$3,400,000
Miles WoodNJDUFA27.4LW6' 2"195L62111324$3,200,000
Max DomiDALUFA28.0LW5' 10"194L62193150$3,000,000
Carl HagelinWASUFA34.5LW6' 0"183L$2,750,000
Nicholas RitchieCGYUFA27.2LW6' 3"236L60101222$2,500,000
Filip ChytilNYRRFA23.5LW6' 2"204L55191837$2,300,000
Pierre EngvallNYIRFA26.8LW$2,250,000
Adam ErneDETUFA27.8LW6' 1"212L477815$2,100,000
Maxime ComtoisANARFA24.2LW6' 2"210L516612$2,037,500
Evan RodriguesCOLUFA29.6LW5' 11"184R51121729$2,000,000
Grigori DenisenkoFLARFA22.7LW$925,000
Tomas NosekBOSUFA30.5LW6' 3"205L475611$1,750,000
Anders BjorkCHIRFA26.6LW6' 0"197L433$1,600,000
Derek GrantANAUFA32.8LW6' 3"210L29369$1,500,000
Austin WatsonOTTUFA31.1LW6' 4"204R59729$1,500,000
Conor ShearyWASUFA30.8LW5' 9"179L65121931$1,500,000
Brendan LemieuxPHIUFA26.9LW6' 1"215L29134$1,350,000
Andrew CoglianoCOLUFA35.7LW5' 10"179L6010717$1,250,000
Sampo RantaCOLRFA22.8LW$925,000
Kieffer BellowsPHIRFA24.7LW6' 0"197$1,200,000
Noah CatesPHIRFA24.1LW$925,000
Austin WagnerCHIRFA25.7LW6' 1"195L0$1,133,333
Nils HoglanderVANRFA22.2LW$891,667
Joel KivirantaDALUFA26.9LW$1,050,000
Ben MeyersCOLRFA24.2LW$912,500
Pierre-Edouard BellemareTBLUFA38.0LW5' 11"198L60459$1,000,000
Jujhar KhairaCHIUFA28.5LW6' 4"212L35347$975,000
Michael BuntingTORUFA27.4LW6' 0"192L64202343$950,000
Pavel DorofeyevVGKRFA22.3LW$925,000
Matias MaccelliARIRFA22.3LW$853,333
Valtteri PuustinenPITRFA23.8LW$842,500
Josiah SlavinANARFA24.2LW$842,500
Grant MismashTBLRFA24.0LW$842,500
Cole KoepkeTBLRFA24.8LW$842,500
Linus WeissbachBUFRFA24.8LW$842,500
Michal TeplyCHIRFA21.8LW$825,833
Samuel FagemoLAKRFA22.9LW$795,000
Gabriel FortierTBLRFA23.1LW$791,667
Zach SanfordNSHUFA28.2LW6' 4"206L11112$850,000
Matt NietoCOLUFA30.3LW5' 11"187L6111819$850,000
Egor SokolovOTTRFA22.8LW$818,333
Zach PariseNYIUFA38.6LW5' 11"195L66161026$6,371,794
Lucas CondottaMTLRFA25.3LW$830,000
Jonathan GrudenPITRFA22.8LW$788,333
Rafael Harvey-PinardMTLRFA24.2LW$825,000
Timur IbragimovNJDRFA22.3LW$813,333
Isaac RatcliffeNSHRFA23.2LW$813,750
Collin AdamsNYIRFA24.8LW5' 8"172$800,000
Mikhail MaltsevCOLRFA24.9LW6' 3"198$800,000
Tanner JeannotTBLRFA25.8LW$800,000
Maxim GolodCHIRFA22.5LW$793,333
Matt FilipeBOSRFA25.2LW6' 1"198-
Alex LimogesWPGRFA25.4LW$780,000
Pierre-Cedric LabrieTBLUFA36.7LW$770,800
Dryden HuntCGYUFA27.2LW6' 0"193L3733$762,500
Frederik OlofssonDALRFA26.8LW$750,000
Fabian ZetterlundSJSRFA23.5LW$750,000
Jeffrey Truchon-VielSJSRFA26.1LW$750,000
Justin KirklandANARFA26.6LW6' 3"183L7$750,000
Josh LeivoSTLUFA29.8LW6' 2"192R4341115$750,000
Rudolfs BalcersTBLRFA25.9LW5' 11"182L17325$750,000
Axel Jonsson-FjallbyWPGRFA25.0LW6' 0"170$750,000
Hugh McGingSTLRFA24.6LW$750,000
Malte StromwallCARUFA28.5LW6' 0"191R$750,000
Brett SeneyCHIUFA27.0LW$750,000
Carsen TwarynskiSEARFA25.2LW6' 2"196$750,000
MacKenzie MacEachernCARUFA28.9LW6' 2"193L$750,000
Timothy GettingerNYRRFA24.8LW6' 5"202$750,000
C.J. SmithNYRUFA28.2LW$750,000
Anton BlidhNYRUFA27.9LW$750,000
Joona KoppanenBOSRFA25.0LW6' 4"192$750,000
Riley TufteDALRFA24.8LW6' 5"211$750,000
Kiefer SherwoodNSHUFA27.9LW6' 0"194R11134$750,000
Jonah GadjovichSJSRFA24.3LW$750,000
Drew O'ConnorPITRFA34.7LW$750,000
Brett MurrayBUFRFA24.6LW6' 4"217$750,000
Joona LuotoCBJRFA25.4LW$750,000
Daniel WalcottTBLUFA29.0LW$750,000
Tyler BensonEDMRFA24.9LW5' 11"197$750,000
Radim ZohornaTORUFA26.8LW$750,000
Brandon BaddockMINUFA27.9LW$750,000
Jack DuganNJDRFA24.9LW$750,000
Patrick BrownOTTUFA30.8LW6' 1"207R43257$750,000
Phillip di GiuseppeVANUFA29.3LW6' 0"193L12224$750,000
Charles HudonCOLUFA28.7LW5' 10"190L9$750,000
Evgeny SvechnikovSJSRFA26.3LW6' 3"208L498614$750,000
Bokondji ImamaARIRFA26.6LW$750,000

Not the greatest..........

It will be interesting to see how it ends up for Bunting. He absolutely has been gifted playing with elite players in his time in Toronto, and he has to know that as well.
 
$3AVV? Get real.

Recent contracts from sane organizations:

Dylan Strome got $5AAV for producing similar numbers.
Zacha got $4.75M AAV for lesser numbers.
Trevor Moore got $4.2M AAV for even lesser numbers.
 
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Thought this was interesting:

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He could probably get $5 on the open market, but we certainly can't accommodate that.

The left side is obviously weak, but with Knies and Robertson still developing, it'd be questionable to give him huge money and term. I'd probably give him $4 x 4, but not much more than that.
 
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See ya.

Don't want players to start thinking we boost their value by playing with top league players. Then they try to cash in on us or leave.... We made Bunting, we should hold all the leverage. Get your money but be reasonable to the team that helped get your value there.

We play you with good players so you can stay and take a pay cut... To continue playing with top league players.. if bunting thinks he's elite.. he can fool another team into thinking that. Bunting is replaceable.

He's not even getting us PP time any more... If anything hes been getting us in trouble now with the refs.

3.5 is what I'd give him... With all the raises coming up with other players why break the bank for Bunting?
 
kk87 said:
He could probably get $5 on the open market, but we certainly can't accommodate that.

The left side is obviously weak, but with Knies and Robertson still developing, it'd be questionable to give him huge money and term. I'd probably give him $4 x 4, but not much more than that.
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What he can get and wants has to be weighed against the ++ on the Nylander and Matthews extensions.

With the Bally Sports issue the Cap Increase may not happen.

First the pandemic and now Bally Sports, it just never will be smooth sailing for Dubas.
 
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613Leafer said:
I wouldn't assume he can be easily replaced. Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kerfoot, etc have been tried in the top 6, and none have been nearly as effective as Bunting. Just because you're playing with 2 of Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander doesn't at all make it a given that you'll be able to put up ~60 points.

I agree we can't just write a blank cheque here, but we got VERY lucky when we replaced Hyman with Bunting. I wouldn't assume we can easily do it again, especially as we've obviously been trying to fill the second top 6 LW spot for years, without success.
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thing is those players you mentioned are not the same as Hyman and Bunting, it's clear the style of player needed to work with those 2, guys that play a physical style, win puck battles down low, who when they get the puck on there stick look to move it quickly to Matthews/Marner and then go to the front of the net and be prepaid for quick passes or rebounds in tight. these are not characteristics of the guys you mentioned.
 
Ianturnedbull said:
When people use absolutes to express themselves it reads as: anger, hatred, virgin, teenager.
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Odd thing to say. Also funny because you appear to be upset with what I’ve said

ACC1224 said:
Who would care enough to know such a thing? :laugh:
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We post on a board where people constantly post what Eklund says, let alone Kypreos, so you see enough of it just reading here.
 
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Cor said:
Odd thing to say. Also funny because you appear to be upset with what I’ve said
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Not sure why 'virgin, teenager' is an insult? I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat. :laugh:

I miss Eklund rumours, that guy is/was legendary.
 
ULF_55 said:
Thought this was interesting:

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Very. He benefits a LOT from his linemates though. He's not a play driver. Very decent complimentary piece. Agitator, takes and draws a lot of penalties. He'll draw comparisons to Hyman and Mikheyev, but IMO he's not as solid or as effective down low as Hyman and not as fast as Micky. He has a knack for going to and being in the right places and scores the grimy goals as a result. $5M / year may be something other teams that do not have our roster composition can give him, but he won't get that here.
 
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