Proposal: Buffalo/Washington Blockbuster

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This is under the assumption that Washington is entering a retool/rebuild as the sun sets on Ovie's career. A lot of Washington fans think they're going to keep trying to make the playoffs and they're probably correct. But I think this would be the perfect time to start a Dallas-style rebuild, where they're back in like 2-3 years.

To Washington:
2024 1st (11th overall)
2025 2nd
Peyton Krebs
Henri Jokiharju
Jiří Kulich
To Buffalo:
Nick Jensen
Dylan Strome
Nic Dowd

With Kulich and 11th OA in the deal, buffalo is giving up the best two assets in what many feel is a top prospect pool, so it's painful from their side. I'm sure they'd prefer a 2025 1st or Ostlund/Savoie, but I wanted to try to make it realistic...still too light on the Buffalo side? Would adding one more asset from Buffalo help?
I'm a caps fan, where do I sign.
 

Kalopsia

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Have you looked at Jansen's possession stats and his salary and added in his age? At $4.06 M for a third pair, including him adds value to what Washington must pay. Dowd is a fourth-line centre who does some hitting and a $1.3 M he has typical mid-round fourth-line centre value on his own. Sorry, that is as lopsided deal as they come, an 11th overall, 2025 2nd, Krebs (yeah his value is like a 2nd now) Jokiharju who is still team controlled and close to our top prospect in Kulich for Strome???? Taking on Jensen's contract might be worth giving us a 1st.
Jensen's a solid second pairing RHD. He's a little overpaid but he doesn't have negative value. Others have chimed in on Jensen though, so I wanna focus on Dowd.

Dowd's not a 4th line center, at least not by the typical definition. The Caps this year had a kind of weird structure where all their centers besides Dowd were either bad defensively or inexperienced or both and none of them could be counted on to play tough minutes. As a result, the Caps just gave all the tough minutes to Dowd's line. Out of 7413 individual player-seasons by forwards who played at least 200 minutes at even strength since 2008 (when natural stat trick started tracking this), Malenstyn, Aube-Kubel, and Dowd rank 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in lowest offensive zone start rate. Dowd's previous season was the 13th lowest, so this isn't totally new for him. The guy who came in #1 on that list was Paul Gaustad 15-16, the "4th line center" who was famously traded for a 1st rounder. Even Gaustad was only asked to play those insanely hard deployments for 9:22 a night at ES plus 1:50 on the PK. Dowd got 12:53 a night at ES plus 2:16 on the PK, so this year he was a "4th line center" playing over 15 minutes a night.

Oh and by the way, despite those insane deployments on a team that had a -37 goal differential, the Malenstyn-Dowd-NAK line finished the year +4 at ES.

The more accurate description of Dowd would be something like shutdown specialist 3rd line center. Not saying that makes him worth the price in OP's proposal, but there's a reason people who actually know his game know he has real value.
 
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HogtownSabresfan

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Jensen's a solid second pairing RHD. He's a little overpaid but he doesn't have negative value. Others have chimed in on Jensen though, so I wanna focus on Dowd.

Dowd's not a 4th line center, at least not by the typical definition. The Caps this year had a kind of weird structure where all their centers besides Dowd were either bad defensively or inexperienced or both and none of them could be counted on to play tough minutes. As a result, the Caps just gave all the tough minutes to Dowd's line. Out of 7413 individual player-seasons by forwards who played at least 200 minutes at even strength since 2008 (when natural stat trick started tracking this), Malenstyn, Aube-Kubel, and Dowd rank 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in lowest offensive zone start rate. Dowd's previous season was the 13th lowest, so this isn't totally new for him. The guy who came in #1 on that list was Paul Gaustad 15-16, the "4th line center" who was famously traded for a 1st rounder. Even Gaustad was only asked to play those insanely hard deployments for 9:22 a night at ES plus 1:50 on the PK. Dowd got 12:53 a night at ES plus 2:16 on the PK, so this year he was a "4th line center" playing over 15 minutes a night.

Oh and by the way, despite those insane deployments on a team that had a -37 goal differential, the Malenstyn-Dowd-NAK line finished the year +4 at ES.

The more accurate description of Dowd would be something like shutdown specialist 3rd line center. Not saying that makes him worth the price in OP's proposal, but there's a reason people who actually know his game know he has real value.

If Jensen is a second pair D and Dowd is on your 3rd line, you do not have a good team.
 

DingDongCharlie

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11ov and Kulich, Washington needs to add Tom Wilson and a time machine to when even he was worth that.
 

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