Pre-Game Talk: Buffalo vs. Montreal Dec 17th.

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Conclusion: We have a tiny bitch team.
Buffalo has some real nice pieces — if they sour on some of them, it could bring in needed size as a by product.
 
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What I’m really hoping happens internally (if it hasn’t already) is a thorough assessment and stringent performance reviews of all pro and amateur scouting staff, just to ensure they have the right people on board, as Habs management will be looking to make critical moves leading into the summer months. 💀
I would love to know which scouts said 'no' to Michkov , on a hockey level and not a contract one. I'd really love to know
 
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These ownership endorsements uttered in public, in the sports world, are more often not a kiss of death. If ownership really believed in the management/ players on hand, it would be implicit, it wouldn’t need to be said. 💀
so if i understand your point, Pagula explicitly expressed faith in management because he, in fact, has no faith in management.
 

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I get that, but isn’t it a chicken-or-egg thing? Buffalo’s had three GMs post-rebuild(s) under Pagula, and every single one’s had the same result. Is it because the hockey people are bad, or is ownership meddling making them bad?

Well, I can tell you that from what I’m reading from Sabres fans on HF and reddit they do think Ownership are indeed the real problem so you’re probably right.
 

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Buffalo has already let Reinhart and Eichel go...
The organization is simply in shambles...
I heard a story about somebody phoning them to inquire about buying season tickets.... No answer so it went to voicemail.... and then... no call back for 3 weeks!
 
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I would love to know which scouts said 'no' to Michkov , on a hockey level and not a contract one. I'd really love to know
Probably the same ones who said no to Tkachuk and yes to Drouin. 💀
 
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Well, I can tell you that from what I’m reading from Sabres fans on HF and reddit they do think Ownership are indeed the real problem so you’re probably right.
The Buffalo situation is interesting to me because hockey insiders have often pointed to Canadian team owners meddling as a big reason Canadian teams haven’t won the Cup since the Habs won it. Makes you wonder if the insiders are right - owners who just can’t resist getting in their own way.
 

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I would love to know which scouts said 'no' to Michkov , on a hockey level and not a contract one. I'd really love to know

Nick Bobrov, in an interview with Grant McCagg, said that Mishkov’s size played a role in the said decision because the Habs were already counting on the services of another “small” forward in Cole Caufield.

In Bobrov’s eyes, it was preferable to select Reinbacher because, in the past, only two clubs have been able to win with two small forwards in their line-up: the Devils (Brian Gionta and Scott Gomez) and the Lightning (Brayden Point and Tyler Johnson).
 

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Here are the numbers when I ran them at the end of November, includes every player who had played in at least one game (which included Reimer with the Sabres):

Team
Avg Age
Avg Height
Avg Weight
Anaheim​
26.52​
6.0143​
197.72​
Boston​
27.41​
6.021
206.03
Buffalo​
25.31​
6.0169​
198.54​
Calgary​
27.8​
6.0144​
196.44​
Carolina​
28.26​
6.0117​
197​
Chicago​
28.63​
6.0175​
198.21​
Colorado​
26.87​
6.0050​
191.29​
Columbus​
26.88​
6.0152​
201.92​
Dallas​
28.04​
6.015​
198.71​
Detroit​
28.44​
6.0136​
199.8​
Edmonton​
29.88
6.0128​
199.28​
Florida​
27.83​
6.0178​
196.83​
Los Angeles​
27.56​
6.02.04​
202.44​
Minnesota​
28.11​
6.0044​
194.59​
Montreal​
25.27​
6.0096​
204.19​
Nashville​
28.35​
6.0085​
196.38​
New Jersey​
27.78​
6.0159​
196.89​
NY Islanders​
28.45​
6.0207​
205.28​
NY Rangers​
27.63​
6.0156​
201.76​
Ottawa​
27.02​
6.0188​
200.72​
Philadelphia​
25.93​
6.0085​
198.52​
Pittsburgh​
28.33​
6.0090​
194.27​
St. Louis​
27.81​
6.0138​
200.62​
San Jose​
26.07​
6.0100​
198.15​
Seattle​
27.77​
6.0065​
196.77​
Tampa Bay​
28.48​
6.0113​
198.22​
Toronto​
27.73​
6.0198​
205.13​
Utah​
26.48​
6.0159​
195.78​
Vancouver​
26.93​
6.0133​
193.74​
Vegas​
27.5​
6.0197​
202.60​
Washington​
28.19​
6.0192​
200.08​
Winnipeg​
27.83​
6.0183​
197.88​

Just a hare or two separating these two wabbits.
Interesting how there are only five teams shorter than us, but only three teams heavier. The Xhekaj effect I assume. Not many players are 250 lbs.
 

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I am guessing, Nick Bobrov
Interesting , I thought he was a big fan of… just read the article, what a stupid reason. Draft talent for god sakes , you can insulate and find size in the market

Interesting how there are only five teams shorter than us, but only three teams heavier. The Xhekaj effect I assume. Not many players are 250 lbs.
Savard is 350 lbs , it helps
 

JianYang

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Buffalo is most certainly going to have urgency in this game if the owner is making the trip.

Then again, Buffalo might just Buffalo but I feel an L coming.
 
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Nick Bobrov, in an interview with Grant McCagg, said that Mishkov’s size played a role in the said decision because the Habs were already counting on the services of another “small” forward in Cole Caufield.

In Bobrov’s eyes, it was preferable to select Reinbacher because, in the past, only two clubs have been able to win with two small forwards in their line-up: the Devils (Brian Gionta and Scott Gomez) and the Lightning (Brayden Point and Tyler Johnson).
That answer makes some sense. In game one of the finals last June there was only one player on the ice under 6 ft (Evan Rodriques). It shows that they are paying attention to successful teams in the playoffs.
 
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Habs7631

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If we win, Sabres probably lose the next 2 games after us (Leafs, Bruins) and we'll get some big trades from them that will be the first domino of trades until the deadline.

If we lose, good for the tank.

I'm OK with either scenario, but even tho I'm currently on the tank train (for the last time this year), I'll take an extra 2 points for some good delicious trades drama. 😋
 

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I would love to know which scouts said 'no' to Michkov , on a hockey level and not a contract one. I'd really love to know
Again it would be character issues and Reinbacher's potential ceiling. Unless Michkov was only coming over if Phialdelphia drafted him.
It might be partially about size, or that might just be for the media, but I doubt that is the whole story.
 
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