GDT: Buffalo Sabres at Ottawa Senators - 7PM - TSN5 / RDS2 - 4th and Final Sabre Rattling Rigmarole with the JBD Juggernauts (no Brady)


Just for the record this is a medical doll that haunts my google ads. The google ad even gives it an anatomic penis. So anytime anybody walks by my computer I have to explain why there is a doll with a hanging penis and a gaping facial expression on the side of my screen. It is incredibly annoying.

Something about it's expression seemed to resonate to me with how emotionally exhausted the Senators make me feel.
 
That’s literally just coaching lol. Look at Jacques Martin compared to DJ lol. Night and day. These kids had the biggest bozos in the league coaching them for 6 years.
How many teams win the cup with their core players in their early 20's? It rarely happens. Chicago with Toews/Kane and Pittsburgh with Crosby/Malkin are the only examples I can think of in the past few decades.
 
Just for the record this is a medical doll that haunts my google ads. The google ad even gives it an anatomic penis. So anytime anybody walks by my computer I have to explain why there is a doll with a hanging penis and a gaping facial expression on the side of my screen. It is incredibly annoying.

Something about it's expression seemed to resonate to me with how emotionally exhausted the Senators make me feel.
It's absolutely killing me that you named it 'we want playoffs'.
 
Back from the game. It was a rough one, but my Dad had a good time, so I'm happy.

Chris Neil was the Sens alumni that presented him a jersey. Real stand up guy. Sat down and chatted with my Dad for a good while, and took photos with everybody who was there. Super cool.

Very awesome experience. Chris Neil always seems like a legit stand up guy, and it's nice to hear when people go to games and have these special experiences. A few months ago, someone here was chosen to move down from the 300s to the front row with their kid.

With that said, you should have asked Chris about what it was like modeling the new Sens jersey.
 
Shiny new thing syndrome.

We have a ton on players on the team who are very young and have lots of room to grow. Sanderson(22), Stutzle(23), Cozens(24), Pinto(24), Greig(22) are all young and are far from a finished product. Even someone a bit older like Batherson(26) shows flashes of being an outstanding player.
Not really. Those are all from 2020. We finished bottom 12 from 2021 to 2024 and didn’t draft a single player of signifance because of our stupid criteria.

99/100 you can give the a GM the same draft picks we had, removed their entire scouting staff, and they would probably come out with a better batch of players than we did.
 
How many teams win the cup with their core players in their early 20's? It rarely happens. Chicago with Toews/Kane and Pittsburgh with Crosby/Malkin are the only examples I can think of in the past few decades.
Isn’t that like most of the cups for a while.

Talking cup is nonsense. We’re not winning. We are a small Canadian market with high taxes lol. I’m sorry but that’s nearly impossible to overcome.
 
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Isn’t that like most of the cups for a while.

Talking cup is nonsense. We’re not winning. We are a small Canadian market with high taxes lol. I’m sorry but that’s nearly impossible to overcome.
All I'm saying is we're roughly where we should be for our rebuild. Especially for a rebuild where we didn't win a single lottery. We have no idea how the team will perform in the playoffs, and we have no idea how they will perform in the next few seasons as the core starts to enter its prime.
 
If april fools day turns to be the start of one of the biggest collapses in hockey history that would be kind of funny.
Much like the collapse of the franchise in 2004. This collapse did not start tonight. It started a while ago before things looked like they were going well.

The organization didn’t seem like it was collapsing in 05-06 or 06-07 but the collapse began with the trading of Hossa.
 
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I don’t even care about rebuild stages as I think it’s a subjective term that doesn’t mean a whole lot.

In our case we had a bad season and decided to trade Karlsson and Stone because they didn’t want to be here. The rebuild talk was cope. We had no choice but to suck and we got Jake Sanderson out of it. Stutzle was pure luck.

Sanderson is pretty much as far as it goes in terms of the fruits of our shittiness post-Karlsson. We traded our other top pucks or wasted them on players like Tyler Boucher.
 
I don’t even care about rebuild stages as I think it’s a subjective term that doesn’t mean a whole lot.

In our case we had a bad season and decided to trade Karlsson and Stone because they didn’t want to be here. The rebuild talk was cope.
The rebuild was always financially motivated by Melnyk not being able to afford the arena. Either way, that's irrelevant now, because he's long gone.
 
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All I'm saying is we're roughly where we should be for our rebuild. Especially for a rebuild where we didn't win a single lottery. We have no idea how the team will perform in the playoffs, and we have no idea how they will perform in the next few seasons as the core starts to enter its prime.

I don’t even care about rebuild stages as I think it’s a subjective term that doesn’t mean a whole lot.

In our case we had a bad season and decided to trade Karlsson and Stone because they didn’t want to be here. The rebuild talk was cope. We had no choice but to suck and we got Jake Sanderson out of it. Stutzle was pure luck.
I’m sorry but this is patently false.

The owner decided we were rebuilding. And we sold off everyone. Stone and karlsson did not want to stick around for a rebuild. Do you think they would have kept us competitive ?

We absolutely rebuilt on purpose and keeping stone and karlsson would not have hindered that. We were bad and they were not good enough to keep us out of the basement.

Lol karlsson was on the team that gave us stutzle
 
I’m sorry but this is patently false.

The owner decided we were rebuilding. And we sold off everyone. Stone and karlsson did not want to stick around for a rebuild. Do you think they would have kept us competitive ?

We absolutely rebuilt on purpose and keeping stone and karlsson would not have hindered that. We were bad and they were not good enough to keep us out of the basement.

Lol karlsson was on the team that gave us stutzle
So what exactly does a rebuild mean if you wanted to keep Karlsson and Stone initially?

“We had a bad year, I guess that means we’re in a rebuild”

We still tried going UFA hunting but it didn’t worl because we were cheap, other thaj with Dadonov.
 
Just based on where each team is at right now and how both sides have played head-to-head, we will lose to Tampa, beat Florida, lose to Montreal, and split Columbus with the win coming at home. There is a small chance we go 2-0 against Columbus because of how annoying it would be to help Montreal that much.

That's 5 games. If we pick up 4 points, especially with 2 of the points being head-to-head with a team fighting for a wild card spot, we are pretty close to getting in. 91 points is usually the magic number, but everybody is so equally hopeless this year that it will probably be like 87. All these teams fighting for WC spots are getting at best a point per game, and there are only 8 games left for most and we have a 7-8 point buffer on everybody whose outside. Two more wins, especially if one comes against Columbus, might even get us in.

I want the WC1 spot to face the Leafs, but if Tampa takes the division, falling to the WC2 spot might be a good thing because we have matched up better against Washington this year than we have against Tampa, regardless of which of the two is the better team. It also hilariously puts us in the Metro seeding, which should make all the 15 year old fans from Twitter and Reddit happy because it means there will be no chance of Toronto or Canadiens fans invading unless we both make it to the conference final.
 
Anyway, the Sabres have our number because they have two things that we lack. Speed and finishing. The exact same reason why Montreal gives us trouble.

“Outplaying” a team barely matters when you don’t have those.
 
So what exactly does a rebuild mean if you wanted to keep Karlsson and Stone initially?

“We had a bad year, I guess that means we’re in a rebuild”

We still tried going UFA hunting but it didn’t worl because we were cheap, other thaj with Dadonov.
yeah we had a bad year and we decided to rebuild.

Teams don’t usually decide to rebuild when they’re having great years lol….

Well maybe we wanted legacy players to help the young guys out? We maybe have been better in year 4-5 with stone and karlsson.
 
I don’t even care about rebuild stages as I think it’s a subjective term that doesn’t mean a whole lot.

In our case we had a bad season and decided to trade Karlsson and Stone because they didn’t want to be here. The rebuild talk was cope. We had no choice but to suck and we got Jake Sanderson out of it. Stutzle was pure luck.

Sanderson is pretty much as far as it goes in terms of the fruits of our shittiness post-Karlsson. We traded our other top pucks or wasted them on players like Tyler Boucher.
Uhh no. Our owner was a broke lunatic and it was a financially motivated rebuild.
 
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Because he couldn’t retain his players by lowballing them. He still wanted to go after players and win, he just couldn’t afford it. It’s just conveniant to brand sucking as rebuilding.
By the end I dont think he cared about winning as much as he cared about trying to recoup some level of financial stability for himself. Regardless, its a prime example of why teams shouldn’t do a tear down rebuild.
 

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