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Any normal human would.
It’s funny, cause Tuch is almost a perfect fit for the kind of player I imagine Guerin is after for a top 6 role. Bonus points for being right handed too. You’d think more Wild fans would be on board with something like that. I guess some are really attached to Brodin… To a fault.
 
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That’s because our winger depth sucked. Foligno was promoted to the second line in the playoffs :help:
Dude Foligno was amazing all year, literally was. He's not getting demoted just because you think he should play on 4th line which he's better than. Him playing on 3rd line and literally being injured free for the most showed his worth. Not only with scoring/ points, but him bringing the physical force that wild need. As much as I don't like/ hate the trenin signing, it kept Foligno from fighting that much which allowed him to also have an Amazing year.
 
Dude Foligno was amazing all year, literally was. He's not getting demoted just because you think he should play on 4th line which he's better than. Him playing on 3rd line and literally being injured free for the most showed his worth. Not only with scoring/ points, but him bringing the physical force that wild need. As much as I don't like/ hate the trenin signing, it kept Foligno from fighting that much which allowed him to also have an Amazing year.
So I guess you’d rather have Ohgren on the 4th line? That’s pretty shitty for his development.
 
So I guess you’d rather have Ohgren on the 4th line? That’s pretty shitty for his development.
did I say this or are you putting word I didn't say? Dude Quinn sucks and I have enough of wingers in my life, and I am sure every wild fan will say this. We need C and one W. Ohgren can be on 3rd line with Foligno
 
did I say this or are you putting word I didn't say? Dude Quinn sucks and I have enough of wingers in my life, and I am sure every wild fan will say this. We need C and one W. Ohgren can be on 3rd line with Foligno
I really have no opinion on whether Minnesota wants or needs Quinn, but I think he'd be a smart buy low target for someone. He had a pretty underwhelming season, but it's entirely possible a lot of that is coming off two significant lower body injuries including a ruptured achilles. This blurb about Quinn was from the beginning of last year:
"At 5-on-5, Quinn averaged 2.93 points per 60 minutes – a rate which ranked fifth among NHL players with at least 20 games played behind Connor McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon, Nikita Kucherov, and Auston Matthews. The names immediately after Quinn on that list: David Pastrnak, Artemi Panarin, and Sidney Crosby."
Just food for thought. Sabres fans are used to seeing guys thrive once they get moved. Smart teams should be looking to poach our forward talent.
 
did I say this or are you putting word I didn't say? Dude Quinn sucks and I have enough of wingers in my life, and I am sure every wild fan will say this. We need C and one W. Ohgren can be on 3rd line with Foligno
Foligno has nothing to do with Quinn… so if the team has a stick up their ass about Foligno being on the 3rd line, then Ohgren (a LW) has to be on the 4th line. Kaprizov-Boldy-Foligno-Ohgren
 
did I say this or are you putting word I didn't say? Dude Quinn sucks and I have enough of wingers in my life, and I am sure every wild fan will say this. We need C and one W. Ohgren can be on 3rd line with Foligno

Did Friedman say that on TV too?
 
did I say this or are you putting word I didn't say? Dude Quinn sucks and I have enough of wingers in my life, and I am sure every wild fan will say this. We need C and one W. Ohgren can be on 3rd line with Foligno

Wild fan here, we definitely need two top 6 wingers and another third line winger
 
Well, Quinn is more proven than Ohgren and you’re telling me that Foligno can’t play anywhere but the 3rd line… So you get Ohgren on the 4th line.
Quinn has sucked for a while now. At some point you need to give a chance to a player like Ohgren over acquiring the same player, especially at winger. I've had enough of these wingers' crap when for like a billion years, we've been begging for C and depth at C. As long as we acquire a Top C and depth at C, I couldn't care less about who's at winger next to Foligno
 
Wild fan here, we definitely need two top 6 wingers and another third line winger
Boldy, Kap, Zucc for next year. That's three of wild top 4 winger Core. Zucc isn't playing on 3rd line. So technically, it's going to be one for next year. As for Third line winger, Put Hartman or Ohgren there. If Bill Guerin goes with his Fascination, and signs Brock Nelson, Wild C core will be Erikson Ek, Brock Nelson, and Danila Yurov. So where do you play Ohgren or Hartman? Especially if one sees the Hartman who was amazing in top 6 role in Playoff?
 
Quinn has sucked for a while now. At some point you need to give a chance to a player like Ohgren over acquiring the same player, especially at winger. I've had enough of these wingers' crap when for like a billion years, we've been begging for C and depth at C. As long as we acquire a Top C and depth at C, I couldn't care less about who's at winger next to Foligno
I’m all for giving Ohgren a chance, but Foligno would need to be on the 4th line. Ideally, a shutdown grinder 4th line of Foligno-Hartman-Gaudreau.
 
I’m all for giving Ohgren a chance, but Foligno would need to be on the 4th line. Ideally, a shutdown grinder 4th line of Foligno-Hartman-Gaudreau.
if we going to play Hartman on 4th line, then trade him. He pouts and is always in his head when it comes to being on 4th line for some weird reason. When he's elevated is when wild seem to get his bad play, so trade him if plan is to play him on 4th line. I want Gaudreau gone. With all due respect, I just don't agree with you on putting Foligno on 4th line. Especially not after the year and playoffs that he had.
 
He' not overly physical and needs to get paid?? Lol He;s definetely not Bill Guerin type. A lot of people in here wants to trade for Byram don't realize he needs to get paid and being that he's not physical means we don;t need him blocking Byrum. Jacob Middleton is already here long term. Buium will be here long term also.
Byram is a physical player.....he's about what you would expect for a guy who plays in both ends but he isnt great on D just very good. Anyone who says he doesnt play D obviously doesnt watch him at all.
 
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It’s not EA NHL franchise so you can’t just assume Ohgren will figure it out by October or that Buium is ready for 82 games and a playoff run. If you can move Rossi/Brodin for a comparable forward and a more dependably healthy D, you have to make that trade. Then hope that the aging, overpaid forward they sign in free agency works out.
 
Id like to see an Owen Power - Jared Spurgeon pairing. Give the kid the steady vet he deserves. Don’t care if it’s on Buffalo or Minnesota
 
Quinn has sucked for a while now.
Sorry to interrupt your inter-Wild-fan fued.....but what now?

Yes, he wasn't good THIS past year.....24/25. BUT.....this means that you're ignoring what he did in 23/24. Let's recap:

Summer of 2023 -- Blows out Achilles while working out. Recovery is said to be 6 months....but most sports fans know/have observed that it takes 12-18 to be "normal" again after that.

December of 2023 -- Returns. Puts up 12 points in 17 games and generally looks strong and starts to return to form until he unofficially breaks a leg against San Jose causing him to miss another 2 months.

April of 2024 -- Finishes with 7 points in 7 games and generally looks like a top 10 pick.


Soooooo....yeah. Most Sabres fans assume that he didn't put the right kind of work in during this past offseason and had a miserable season. BUT.....the talent is still there. He hasn't "sucked for a while".
 
Trading Byram is the easy way out for Adams and it appears the momentum has started in that direction, so I'd say that's the route he takes, but I'd absolutely consider moving Power. You'll never get a consensus of any sort on a deal from Sabres fans though, some think he's a future #1 and there's been some flashes of that, but I just don't think he's got the chops in his own zone. He's soft as tissue paper and goes through long stretches of looking completely braindead in his own zone.
It's easy to gauge
Trading Byram is the easy way out for Adams and it appears the momentum has started in that direction, so I'd say that's the route he takes, but I'd absolutely consider moving Power. You'll never get a consensus of any sort on a deal from Sabres fans though, some think he's a future #1 and there's been some flashes of that, but I just don't think he's got the chops in his own zone. He's soft as tissue paper and goes through long stretches of looking completely braindead in his own zone.
It's easy to gauge how good Power will be. If Buffalo trades him, he will be a Norris contending #1 for the next 15 years. If Buffalo keeps him, he will.be yet another middling defenseman who considered a bust.
 
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Quinn is my biggest target as a Wild fan and has been for a while.

Anyone who babbles about Quinn being bad while calling Foligno amazing is an idiot
 
Quinn is my biggest target as a Wild fan and has been for a while.

Anyone who babbles about Quinn being bad while calling Foligno amazing is an idiot
yeah how about you comment at me instead of being a bully and talking crap and being an asshole to people
 
Marcus Foligno is a litmus test for me to tell how closely people watch and understand hockey.

Every scoring chance is a series of events: get the puck , improvements to the condition of the puck, shot on goal.

Foligno is a very high-end player at the first part of the chain. Casuals dont notice it though because to them its all just chaotic randomness until their team has the puck (second part of the chain) and their attention perks up. Extreme casuals dont even pay much attention to the second part of the chain and only perk up on the last bit (we call those Patrik Laine fans).

Foligno was #1 for relative Corsi-For% last season for Wild players who played more than one game despite having high defensive zone starts (typical for bottom 6 forwards).

The game has moved away a bit from obsessing about corsi dudes who win battles and go and get the f#$^& puck but it still matters and its never going away bc its the first link in the chain (even if it just looks random to you).
 
It’s not EA NHL franchise so you can’t just assume Ohgren will figure it out by October or that Buium is ready for 82 games and a playoff run. If you can move Rossi/Brodin for a comparable forward and a more dependably healthy D, you have to make that trade. Then hope that the aging, overpaid forward they sign in free agency works out.
It’s not EA NHL franchise, you don’t just trade Brodin for a “more dependably healthy D” because injuries can’t be controlled for and that player will undoubtedly be worse. Dahlin is the only Sabres D that’s comparable to Brodin’s impact at the moment and Buffalo isn’t giving him up ever. Teams entering contention windows don’t trade away signed top pair defenders, but you add depth guys to the roster that can show up and do an adequate job for the 15 regular season games he might miss while the rest of your roster is strong enough to still win. As long as Brodin is healthy for the playoffs, that is what matters.

The Wild don’t have another defender on the roster or in the development system that comes close to Brodin’s shutdown and defensive skills, even Faber isn’t there yet. You ship out a Brodin and immediately will be looking for someone just like him for the next decade, it makes very little sense IMO to package him with Rossi for forward help when they are so much easier to fill.
 
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