I mean yeah, I assume if Peterka wants to stay in Buffalo they'll keep him.
... This thread is kinda built on the idea that he doesn't.
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I mean yeah, I assume if Peterka wants to stay in Buffalo they'll keep him.
... This thread is kinda built on the idea that he doesn't.
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Hard to keep a guy who wants out. Saravelli mentions he can’t see JJP on the Sabres in October. He’s basically saying JJP isn’t signing with the Sabres. And they either trade him or he sits. The club can’t afford to have an asset that important sitting. They need to build a playoff roster. Any assets gained in a JJP trade would help to that end. His sitting doesn’t.
Yeah I think Byram's as good as gone, but I'd be feeling the market out on both of them. I just dont see how Dobson fixes what ails Buffalo. He's yet another offensive leaning puck moving defenseman. He won't get PP1 time with Dahlin on the team and I dont think stylistically he'd be a good fit to be Power's partner.
Fair enough, he is a RHD though(seems like Buffalo's Defense is left handed heavy)
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#3 OA in this draft is a mystery box. Yes the player coukd be as good as peterka in 4+ yrs from now
But Buffalo has a bunch of prospects already in their system. 3OA will want to jump the line where they have Rosen, Ostlund, Helenius, Wahlberg, and others waiting
They are more likely wanting in a trade...
Something to fill in their holes and get future draft picks for trade bait. Holes are
1. Mid pair RD to pair with Power that is more D first.
2. A shorter term vet W/C
3. a LD to play with dahlin if they don't resign Byram
Chicago could OS Peterka
Most draft picks are a mystery the #3 pick, even in weaker draft like this isn't really a mystery box, that's why it's the #3 pick.
Sure you can screw up a top 3 pick I can think of a few times that's happened but generally top 3 picks are sure things, that is why they are top 3 picks
And I'm operating under the premise that Buffalo isn't moving a 23 year old top line player for pieces that don't address their needs. Especially when the player doesn't have a whole lot of leverage in this situation.
Let's at least entertain scenarios that might actually occur. Peterka isn't going to sit. That's an incredibly stupid argument to make. That said he could absolutely make his unhappiness known (if he actually is unhappy in Buffalo) and ask management for a trade, sign an offersheet or sign a deal or deals that take him to free agency ASAP.
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Guys have sat out before. Nylander sat for several months. It can happen. JJP wants out. Sabres can’t afford to have that asset wasted on the sidelines. He’s got leverage.
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No chance in hell.
Dobson is expensive and offense first. They already have dahlin, power and byram
It makes more sense
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He sits out s full year, he still D doesn't grt arbitration rights in 26 s summer thsts he'd have if he plays 35/36.
That signing deadline is in late nov/early December after x days into the season. Nylander was in early December
I haven't seen anywhere near enough proof to substantiate that Peterka "wants out". I've seen a ton of conflicting reports from the experts and I've seen Seravelli change his timeline for a Peterka deal over and over and over. This is absolutely the time of year when you should be extremely skeptical of what you're hearing especially given Peterkas agent. You've highlighted one time a player has sat out in a contract dispute in recent history. Which was actually the team and a player fighting about the terms of the contract (and Nylander eventually signed with the Leafs). Even if Peterka wants out (which he may or may not, I don't assume he does, you do) he's not sitting at home and not getting paid because he's unhappy. That's a really stupid scenario that You've invented that has next to no chance of happening.
Lafreniere for Peterka, straight across. Lafreniere is signed long term, which Buffalo benefits from and maybe a reset in a lower visibility market brings out the 1OA pedigree. Peterka brings some speed and skill to a very grindy Rangers forward group.
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Might be a mystery box for some teams, but for the Islanders it’s James Hagens.
Dobson for 3, Peterka for Dobson might work from a value perspective, even though Dobson isn’t exactly what the Sabres want.
What I find interesting from that Tweet is what offers might be on the table if #3 didn’t get traction.
People haven’t done a great job on determining Peterka’s actual worth on here.
What names out there might get you to ignore 3? Robertson, Dobson, Pettersson, a signed Andersson, Lafreniere?
Just spitballing, there; maybe the Sabres prefer a package where they add a sweetener to JJ to get two lesser pieces that help them now like the Cuylle/Schneider combo
Dobson for 3, Peterka for Dobson might work from a value perspective, even though Dobson isn’t exactly what the Sabres want.
What I find interesting from that Tweet is what offers might be on the table if #3 didn’t get traction.
People haven’t done a great job on determining Peterka’s actual worth on here.
What names out there might get you to ignore 3? Robertson, Dobson, Pettersson, a signed Andersson, Lafreniere?
Just spitballing, there; maybe the Sabres prefer a package where they add a sweetener to JJ to get two lesser pieces that help them now like the Cuylle/Schneider combo
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He is 40ish point player signed long-term with concern that 2023-24 season was anomaly with his regression this past year
It would be highway robbery for Rangers to walk away with Peterka while dumping Laf contract
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I think most will agree JJ is the better player.
But they’d be wrong if they say that’s not an attractive main piece in a return if the Rangers add.
The Sabres will be looking for cost-controlled players of Laf’s age.
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Laf and Schneider for Peterka and a lesser piece.
Not sure who the Rangers would want, but the Sabres have enough ELC and prospect assets that finding a match shouldn’t be that hard.
Not sure who the Rangers would want, but the Sabres have enough ELC and prospect assets that finding a match shouldn’t be that hard.
Cool... But this entire thread is on the basis that they possibly do move him?
Eh, I’m not the biggest Lafreniere fan in NY, but this seems a bit disingenuous. 102 points in his last two years. 57 and 45. Every Ranger had a putrid 24-25. Only 10 of those 102 points were on the PP as he doesn’t get much time there. 92 EV points in the past two seasons is fairly solid and he seems like a very safe bet to rebound to mid 50s points at the least. Getting a reset and going to a different team with a different role, it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he moved into the 60s. Either way, calling him a “40ish” point player seems a bit self serving.
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Peterka is clearly the better player in a re-draft.
Laf given his production, that cap hit is looking like a bad contract
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Cost controlled but also players with term on contracts. Not years of control, they want players that already have contracts with term.
Meh, he’s tied for 47th in the NHL, all positions, in EV goals and 50th in EV points over the past two years. He doesn’t get PP time in NY. And every Ranger had a horrible down year last year. It seems a pretty safe bet he bounces back to mid 50s, mostly 5v5. On a team that gives him a different role and some PP time, maybe he can come closer to his potential. He won’t reach it in NY.
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Both. It would have to be both. Power and Dobson are basically copies of each other -- just one is left handed while the other is right handed.
So if one is left hamded and presumably plays the left side, and one of them is right handed and presumably plays the right side, wouldn't it make sense to pair them together?
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