Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Like Sabres fans have been telling you.

I would say that what is posted there leans more towrd them making the bad choice which is trading him.

I say that because that report says they are listening now.

Before they weren't

 

[UnleashRasmus]

IMO, if there is a deal to be made between BUF and VAN involving Byram/Peterka, it seems like it would make more sense for VAN to deal from their position of strength D, and that fits the Sabres needs as well.

Hronek, M.Pettersson are the pieces that make more sense to me than EP. Not saying VAN does that, but if I were in your spot I'd rather deal D, especially if I'm getting Byram back.

Maybe Hronek, no interest in M. Petterson. Probably willing to add a little bit on top of Byram to make that happen. Not as high as 1-9, but other possibilities not named Kulich. On Elias Petterson, I wouldn't trade both Byram and Peterka for him. It'd be a one or the other and additional pieces.

 

[Zman5778]

Maybe Hronek, no interest in M. Petterson. Probably willing to add a little bit on top of Byram to make that happen. Not as high as 1-9, but other possibilities not named Kulich. On Elias Petterson, I wouldn't trade both Byram and Peterka for him. It'd be a one or the other and additional pieces.

Not sure why you'd have no interest in M. Pete. He's exactly what our defense needs.

 

[THUNDERBURST]

Maybe Hronek, no interest in M. Petterson. Probably willing to add a little bit on top of Byram to make that happen. Not as high as 1-9, but other possibilities not named Kulich. On Elias Petterson, I wouldn't trade both Byram and Peterka for him. It'd be a one or the other and additional pieces.

M. Petterson - Dahlin first pair

 

[truthbluth]

I would say that what is posted there leans more towrd them making the bad choice which is trading him.

I say that because that report says they are listening now.

Before they weren't

That listening was reported a week ago. But the fact that some teams don't think he'll be dealt is different from Seravelli's insistance that Peterka will be traded before the draft in 7 days.

 

[truthbluth]

M. Petterson - Dahlin first pair

If not for NMC, I'd be all over this.

 

[THUNDERBURST]

If not for NMC, I'd be all over this.

Well, sometimes they refuse, although it would look strange.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Guentzel is not a consistent C option. neither Gourde nor Paul are 2C caliber, and Geekie isn’t there, yet. There may be a halfway decent hockey trade involving Cirelli that benefits Tampa, but it's not for Peterka.

I mean, he's a natural center and plays a great two way game. I really think he could center a line of him, Peterka, and Gourde or something like that. Team gets younger, too.

I want to push back on the idea that Cirelli is the only guy we can play at 2C.

Based on 82 game averages alone, who would you want playing 2C? And how big is the gap?

Player A:

18:41 TOI
49.4% FO wins
20G
27A
48 takeaways
14% shooting

Player B:

19:15 TOI
45.7% FO wins
37G
41A
38 takeaways
15.7% shooting

Player C: (Did last 4 full seasons here because he had outlier early seasons where he put up 2 goals or less)

15:33 TOI
52.0% FOW
20G
18A
41 takeaways
13.8% shooting

 

[JTBF81]

I mean, he's a natural center and plays a great two way game. I really think he could center a line of him, Peterka, and Gourde or something like that. Team gets younger, too.

I want to push back on the idea that Cirelli is the only guy we can play at 2C.

Based on 82 game averages alone, who would you want playing 2C? And how big is the gap?

Player A:

18:41 TOI
49.4% FO wins
20G
27A
48 takeaways
14% shooting

Player B:

19:15 TOI
45.7% FO wins
37G
41A
38 takeaways
15.7% shooting

Player C: (Did last 4 full seasons here because he had outlier early seasons where he put up 2 goals or less)

15:33 TOI
52.0% FOW
20G
18A
41 takeaways
13.8% shooting

There's alot more than posting 3 random stat lines. Guentzel hasn't been a C for a while, at least not consistently, and none of Paul, Gourde, nor Geekie have the same 2 way game as Cirelli. If JBB had truly been concerned about adding a winger this summer, he wouldn't have paid the prices he did to bring in two of them at the deadline, then re-sign Gourde already. Tampa is more than set at winger for the upcoming season, and moving a Selke caliber C for another winger they don't need from a roster standpoint is poor roster management from Brisebois.

 

[Vitto79]

Schneider, Othmaan and a 1st do it ?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I mean, he's a natural center and plays a great two way game. I really think he could center a line of him, Peterka, and Gourde or something like that. Team gets younger, too.

Guentzel? The guy that has played with Crosby and Malkin his whole career?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I think something around Peterka for Dobson would work well for both teams.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I think something around Peterka for Dobson would work well for both teams.

Easy pass. Dobson isn’t worth anything close to what he’s rumored to be asking for, least of all to a team that already has Dahlin, Byram, and Power on the back end. He’s basically the exact opposite of the kind of player we’re actually hurting for on the blue line.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Schneider, Othmaan and a 1st do it ?

No.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

That listening was reported a week ago. But the fact that some teams don't think he'll be dealt is different from Seravelli's insistance that Peterka will be traded before the draft in 7 days.

Personally I believe he's getting traded eventually.

It just might take longer like it did with Necas

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I mean, he's a natural center and plays a great two way game. I really think he could center a line of him, Peterka, and Gourde or something like that. Team gets younger, too.

I want to push back on the idea that Cirelli is the only guy we can play at 2C.

Based on 82 game averages alone, who would you want playing 2C? And how big is the gap?

Player A:

18:41 TOI
49.4% FO wins
20G
27A
48 takeaways
14% shooting

Player B:

19:15 TOI
45.7% FO wins
37G
41A
38 takeaways
15.7% shooting

Player C: (Did last 4 full seasons here because he had outlier early seasons where he put up 2 goals or less)

15:33 TOI
52.0% FOW
20G
18A
41 takeaways
13.8% shooting

Trading a 27 year old Selke nominated center is never a good idea.

Literally NEVER.

 

[Fatass]

I think something around Peterka for Dobson would work well for both teams.

Now that’s a very fair hockey trade. Both guys will be expecting big money. The one difference though is Dobson is a top pairing young RSD. Peterka is a young forward. Don’t the D have more value? Sabres sure could use a natural right side guy on their top pairing.

 

[Zman5778]

Now that’s a very fair hockey trade. Both guys will be expecting big money. The one difference though is Dobson is a top pairing young RSD. Peterka is a young forward. Don’t the D have more value? Sabres sure could use a natural right side guy on their top pairing.

Dobson is utterly and completely redundant on the Sabres, even if he is right-handed. Dobson is basically a right-handed version of Power: good offensively, questionable defensively and sketchy phsyically.

And Dahlin plays the right side on our top pairing; it's his preferred side and he plays better on the right.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Trading a 27 year old Selke nominated center is never a good idea.

Literally NEVER.

We have 2 other guys who got Selke votes this year. We would live. But get where you’re coming from

 

[Fatass]

Dobson is utterly and completely redundant on the Sabres, even if he is right-handed. Dobson is basically a right-handed version of Power: good offensively, questionable defensively and sketchy phsyically.

And Dahlin plays the right side on our top pairing; it's his preferred side and he plays better on the right.

Understood. But considering the Sabres’ struggles, especially defensively, maybe they should consider playing Dahlin on his natural side? So adding Dobson for JJP actually makes them better.

 

[Zman5778]

Understood. But considering the Sabres’ struggles, especially defensively, maybe they should consider playing Dahlin on his natural side? So adding Dobson for JJP actually makes them better.

Dahlin does not play as well on his natural side. Playing Dahlin on the left makes us worse, unless his partner is one of the best defensive RHDs in the NHL. So we're talking guys like McAvoy, Pesce and maybe Faber.

Dobson ain't that. Adding Dobson might make some modicum of sense if we trade Power AND Byram. Otherwise, Buffalo adding Dobson is completely non-sensical.

 

[Fatass]

Dahlin does not play as well on his natural side. Playing Dahlin on the left makes us worse, unless his partner is one of the best defensive RHDs in the NHL. So we're talking guys like McAvoy, Pesce and maybe Faber.

Dobson ain't that. Adding Dobson might make some modicum of sense if we trade Power AND Byram. Otherwise, Buffalo adding Dobson is completely non-sensical.

Okay, you’re a “blue” voice. I’m definitely not arguing. Sabres can keep following their same path. Fine by me.

 

[Ninjadude]

M. Petterson - Dahlin first pair

Marcus Petterson's No Trade Clause kicks in July 1st 2025 i believe. So definitely tradeable.

 

[Fatass]

Marcus Petterson's No Trade Clause kicks in July 1st 2025 i believe. So definitely tradeable.

M. Petey straight up for JJP? Is that fair? Top four, pk, big minute D, signed to a good contract through his prime for a younger forward who is demanding a big salary? JJP is great. Sounds like a fair trade. Not too sure the Sabres would think it’s fair though.

 

[Djp]

M. Petey straight up for JJP? Is that fair? Top four, pk, big minute D, signed to a good contract through his prime for a younger forward who is demanding a big salary? JJP is great. Sounds like a fair trade. Not too sure the Sabres would think it’s fair though.

29+ is not prime