Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

[Howie Hodge]

The feeling of being a Sabres fan since day one....

Or at any time, for that matter.

 

[57special]

It’s almost like we want to see the team solve its existing problems, not just create new ones. Weird.

I don't think that trading the owner and GM is a thing, so we talk about the players instead.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

Peterka will absolutely be better offensively than Cirelli for the remainder of that deal, but Cirelli is amongst the league's best defensive centers and would be a major upgrade at the center-ice position for the Sabres, where they have a massive hole.

Trading Peterka for Cirelli+ would allow Buffalo to potentially put Thompson on the wing if they want to, which would make sense to me as I'd say that Thompson's been better at that position last season than at center.

Adding Cirelli to their team could also help them insulate their center depth and rising guys like Kulich for the foreseeable future, potentially aiding in development and also providing very good 5-on-5 defense and penalty-killing to a team that hasn't had many stalwarts in that sense for a while.

Peterka is one of the few Sabres wingers that goes to the net, grinds, and battles hard on the corners so I understand why they'd be loathe to trade him, but the Sabres need more talent/depth at the center-ice position and mostly on right D too so maybe Peterka'd be expendable for a player that helps fill those same needs.

Moreso if the Sabres' management consider that extending Peterka to the $8M-$9.5M on a multi-year deal contract that Peterka is likely to get could severely handcuff them from protecting other key RFAs that they have in Byram and Quinn.

We're talking about JJ Peterka, right? This is a fast, skilled winger with a nasty shot and decent playmaking ability. He is defensively challenged, brings zero physicality, and rarely sticks his nose into the front of net area.

If anything, I think the reason he could be available is because he is deficient in those areas you mentioned. Now, he's 23, so he likely should improve as he gets older/stronger, but this is not a complete player at this point of his career. If he was already good in those areas, I think there'd be no chance the Sabres would trade him, and the team also likely would have been better than they were the last couple of years, considering he was in their top 6.

 

[rocketdan9]

What can the NYR offer? 2025 1st and Cuylle?

 

[Chainshot]

Stutzle and Peterka together should have already happened if not for Dorion passing on Peterka for some no-name player....would be great to have the 2 Germans on the same line.

Could always try 2/3rds of Team Full Cage and offer Chicago some pocket lint to take on Lukas Reichel.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What can the NYR offer? 20215 1st and Cuylle?

Doesn't their 2025 1st belong to Vancouver via the Miller trade?

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

The reign of terror continues unceasingly:

 

[rocketdan9]

The reign of terror continues unceasingly:

If Adams doesn't make the playoffs next season. Jarmo will take his job

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The reign of terror continues unceasingly:

Their commitment to the suck is impressive

 

[Tawnos]

Doesn't their 2025 1st belong to Vancouver via the Miller trade?

Vancouver traded that pick to Pittsburgh, but the Rangers don't have to decide if this year's pick or next year's pick is going to them until 48 hours before the draft.

 

[Djp]

some of the cirelli takes in here are bewildering, Tampa is almost certainly not trading him and I would be willing to bet that if he was offered to Buffalo straight up as a one for one for Peterka the deal would be done in a heartbeat

Buffalo does not.

The acquired McLeod as their 3C. They don't need another.thsts before you factor in age, term, cap hit, a.nd Sabres depth ( kulich, ostlund, helenius)

unbelievably useful player coming off of a career season and most of the underlying numbers highlight that he's not just on a shooting heater - he's actually generating quality chances consistently despite getting some of the toughest matchups in the league

Cirelli benefited from linemates

What can the NYR offer? 2025 1st and Cuylle?

Id rather have the 26 1st un protected.

Doesn't their 2025 1st belong to Vancouver via the Miller trade?

25 1st right now us protected. I think it was top 13 protected. St 1e Rangers coukd opt to release the 1st as part of the JT Miller trade.

Vancouver traded the Rangers 1st to Pittsburgh in the Petersson trade.

The Rangers keep thr pick k, an unprotected wy goes to Pittsburgh. If they give Pittsburgh the pick, they keep 26 1st

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

I’m we

If Adams doesn't make the playoffs next season. Jarmo will take his job

where did you see that?
I think that is an assumption not a fact

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Buffalo does not.

The acquired McLeod as their 3C. They don't need another.thsts before you factor in age, term, cap hit, a.nd Sabres depth ( kulich, ostlund, helenius)



Cirelli benefited from linemates



Id rather have the 26 1st un protected.



25 1st right now us protected. I think it was top 13 protected. St 1e Rangers coukd opt to release the 1st as part of the JT Miller trade.

Vancouver traded the Rangers 1st to Pittsburgh in the Petersson trade.

The Rangers keep thr pick k, an unprotected wy goes to Pittsburgh. If they give Pittsburgh the pick, they keep 26 1st

OK so they are giving the pick to Pittsburgh because they are NOT risking Gavin Mckenna

 

[Djp]

OK so they are giving the pick to Pittsburgh because they are NOT risking Gavin Mckenna

That's the logical choice.....

 

[creg]

yeah I'd totally be looking to move the 23 year old RFA winger who had 27 goals and a 68 points who's more likely to improve if anything. That's totally the guy I wouldn't be even give a thought when trading right now for a guy who isn't even close to a star. Any Sabres fans thinking trading him will do wonders is dreaming until they realize how our wingers look with him gone. Get a real coaching staff that wants to win before trading him in a lateral move to a position the Sabres already have a lot depth at and already have a guy who can play that role. Either he stays or he's being moved for a RD anything else is just shuffling chairs for no reason.

I mean it seems like Buffalo probably isn't going to have a choice in trading him, but again if you think you're getting a "star" back you're dreaming. I don't have a problem with Peterka, but he very clearly has holes in his game. Evaluating both him and Cirelli solely based on their point totals is an interesting way to determine how valuable a player is.

Buffalo does not.

The acquired McLeod as their 3C. They don't need another.thsts before you factor in age, term, cap hit, a.nd Sabres depth ( kulich, ostlund, helenius)



Cirelli benefited from linemates



Id rather have the 26 1st un protected.



25 1st right now us protected. I think it was top 13 protected. St 1e Rangers coukd opt to release the 1st as part of the JT Miller trade.

Vancouver traded the Rangers 1st to Pittsburgh in the Petersson trade.

The Rangers keep thr pick k, an unprotected wy goes to Pittsburgh. If they give Pittsburgh the pick, they keep 26 1st

he’s a 2c, he gets the minutes of a 2c and plays like a 2c I’m confused why this is so hard for you all

the whole “benefited by linemates thing” is like so shockingly stupid that it’s hardly worth acknowledging. I’m sure Cirelli was nominated for the Selke due to his minutes with defensive stalwart Nikita Kucherov and Bergeron 2.0 Conor Geekie

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

Curious what a deal would look like from an Anaheim perspective…?

 

[Mangosteen]

4 OA do we have a deal? Send in the paperwork

 

[Djp]

I mean it seems like Buffalo probably isn't going to have a choice in trading him, but again if you think you're getting a "star" back you're dreaming. I don't have a problem with Peterka, but he very clearly has holes in his game. Evaluating both him and Cirelli solely based on their point totals is an interesting way to determine how valuable a player is.


he’s a 2c, he gets the minutes of a 2c and plays like a 2c I’m confused why this is so hard for you all

the whole “benefited by linemates thing” is like so shockingly stupid that it’s hardly worth acknowledging. I’m sure Cirelli was nominated for the Selke due to his minutes with defensive stalwart Nikita Kucherov and Bergeron 2.0 Conor Geekie

He does nit have thr numbers t o be a 2C.

Centers who PK and play D_ line match opposing yop C that are 3C can get higher minutes. Buffalo now has McLeod for that role.

 

[Djp]

4 OA do we have a deal? Send in the paperwork

No. Buffalo isnt rebuilding.

 

[Djp]

Curious what a deal would look like from an Anaheim perspective…?

Like who ?

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

No. Buffalo isnt rebuilding.

I’m sorry…what?

If not rebuilding then what exactly is Buffalo doing?

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

I’m sorry…what?

If not rebuilding then what exactly is Buffalo doing?

Not prospect based. Look at the last few trades made. Need to have team structure. Too many same style players

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Their commitment to the suck is impressive

????

I think good move if he is given voice

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

You're saying there's no package out there that would convince the Sabres to trade him? Especially now that Seravalli has stated he and others are unhappy with the direction of the team? Avalanche traded Rantanen lol. Serious question, how much worse are the Sabres without any of these players? There's not much room to fall and what they are doing now is not working.

They fix that with winning

If they fail again then trade deadline deal

And less fans

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

(for between 40-50 games a year)

And a new strength and conditioning coach