Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

[OtherThingsILike]

Also you do not think we can't offer Rust / Rakell + for Peterka?

Like maybe our first and a prospect?

The Sabres would probably be better with trying to trade Peterka for a player they need, and if they want Rakell, they'd likely be better off giving up 9OA for him. (Not necessarily one-for-one.) The Sabres don't want futures, and while we don't particularly want them either, we're willing to take them, whereas the Sabres really aren't.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I don’t think Tampa will deal Cirelli for a package based around picks. Most teams right with decent center spines are trying to compete. 9th overall does very little for them.

Tampa would require 1-2 legit NHL players coming back in a trade for Cirelli.

When it comes to the Atlantic - I’m not sold on Montreal or Ottawa as consistent playoff teams, and Tampa and Toronto have legit question marks after their postseasons. I don’t think the Sabres make the playoffs this year, but they need to show they are on the upswing, which they may be able to do

In order to do that need to make an effort, a REAL effort.

Not Sam Lafferty, or Beck Malinstine for a 2nd rounder.

Those are nothing players.

They need an impact player, in fact they need 3 or 4 of them.

What they don't need to do is sell good players like Byram and Peterka.

But that's what they are going to do.

And that's why I legitimately believe this playoff drought will hit a MINIMUM of 20 years.

Because management does not have a f***ing clue.

 

[TageGod]

Seravelli is rarely accurate on Buffalo reports for starters.

3 things:

1. Unless we get Tkachuk, he's not being traded in the division; so all the Ottawa fans can just stop with the inane offers that include mediocre players and protected 1sts.

2. For those who wish to offer sheet him, you are likely looking at the 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation level to even hope to get Buffalo not to match. Want to offer him 3x7mil; we may want revenge later but we can match. Desperate enough to try 1x9mil; we may take the picks.

3. Always loved Cirelli but with McLeod here already as a light version of him we really don't need him.

So what you're saying is the Sabres, with abysmal team defense, do not need a defensively responsible BETTER version of McLeod? Our current center spine is Norris Kulich Mcleod Krebs. Want to tell us again how we don't need that 2C?

 

[Beerz]

So what you're saying is the Sabres, with abysmal team defense, do not need a defensively responsible BETTER version of McLeod? Our current center spine is Norris Kulich Mcleod Krebs. Want to tell us again how we don't need that 2C?

We have a 2C in Norris... 2C isn't what we are lacking.

 

[TehDoak]

We have a 2C in Norris... 2C isn't what we are lacking.

(for between 40-50 games a year)

 

[CowbellConray]

In order to do that need to make an effort, a REAL effort.

Not Sam Lafferty, or Beck Malinstine for a 2nd rounder.

Those are nothing players.

They need an impact player, in fact they need 3 or 4 of them.

What they don't need to do is sell good players like Byram and Peterka.

But that's what they are going to do.

And that's why I legitimately believe this playoff drought will hit a MINIMUM of 20 years.

Because management does not have a f***ing clue.

To be fair - they did trade what was regarded as a really good prospect in Savoie for McLeod last year, and that trade worked pretty well for them.

I've advocated going for Jared McCann this offseason as Seattle may take 9th overall as a centerpiece for the deal. With that said, I dont think Tampa would want 9th overall and a prospect for Cirelli. They want to continue to compete and try to build on their roster while Hedman/Point/Vasi/Kucherov are in their windows to win

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

To be fair - they did trade what was regarded as a really good prospect in Savoie for McLeod last year, and that trade worked pretty well for them.

I've advocated going for Jared McCann this offseason as Seattle may take 9th overall as a centerpiece for the deal. With that said, I dont think Tampa would want 9th overall and a prospect for Cirelli. They want to continue to compete and try to build on their roster while Hedman/Point/Vasi/Kucherov are in their windows to win

Maybe It's not Cirelli, But my point is instead of trading good players away like Byram and Peterka you need to take that 9th overall pick and add a good player.

I know this isn't considered a deep draft, so the 9th overall pick maybe doesn't have quite the value that ir normally does.

But It's still a top 10 pick it still has value.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Maybe It's not Cirelli, But my point is instead of trading good players away like Byram and Peterka you need to take that 9th overall pick and add a good player.

I know this isn't considered a deep draft, so the 9th overall pick maybe doesn't have quite the value that ir normally does.

But It's still a top 10 pick it still has value.

No one is trading you a proven, good players for the 9th pick. Competing teams want players, not picks. And none of the rebuilding teams have players worth that pick.

Just look around and do the math and you’ll see why it almost never happens.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

No one is trading you a proven, good players for the 9th pick. Competing teams want players, not picks. And none of the rebuilding teams have players worth that pick.

Just look around and do the math and you’ll see why it almost never happens.

It does happen though and Minnesota literally has one now in Rossi

 

[SensontheRush]

No one is trading you a proven, good players for the 9th pick. Competing teams want players, not picks. And none of the rebuilding teams have players worth that pick.

Just look around and do the math and you’ll see why it almost never happens.

?

Sens traded 7th OV for DbC just a few years ago.

Canucks traded 9th OV for Ekman-Larsson (lol) and Garland.

I'm certain there would be a ton of players that would be made available if the 9th OV pick was offered up.

 

[thewookie1]

So what you're saying is the Sabres, with abysmal team defense, do not need a defensively responsible BETTER version of McLeod? Our current center spine is Norris Kulich Mcleod Krebs. Want to tell us again how we don't need that 2C?

It no longer has quite the same need as it has the past couple years; would he help; certainly but the addition would no longer carry quite the same as it would have prior to McLeod.

 

[CowbellConray]

Maybe It's not Cirelli, But my point is instead of trading good players away like Byram and Peterka you need to take that 9th overall pick and add a good player.

I know this isn't considered a deep draft, so the 9th overall pick maybe doesn't have quite the value that ir normally does.

But It's still a top 10 pick it still has value.

I dont disagree - I just dont think Tampa is going to do that type of move.

Teams who would potentially give players for 9th overall (Not one for one, but just teams and potential fits for the Sabres):

Flyers (Tippett, maybe Konecny on a bigger package, Couts + something else)
Seattle (Beniers/McCann)
Boston (Zadorov)
Penguins (Rust/Rakell)
Nashville (IDK who I would want from them to be honest...)
Vancouver (Part of a package for EP)

Any teams who made the playoffs last year aren't looking for a top 10 pick in a bad draft IMO

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

?

Sens traded 7th OV for DbC just a few years ago.

Canucks traded 9th OV for Ekman-Larsson (lol) and Garland.

I'm certain there would be a ton of players that would be made available if the 9th OV pick was offered up.

Yes, it happens once every 7 years or so. I meant that it very rarely happens. So rare that it’s not worth talking about.

All Sabres fans would be open to trading it but are sick of hearing people say “trade the pick” for a decade straight and not a single credible trade rumor has even come out that Buffalo is in talks to actually trade it. It’s not happening.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

It does happen though and Minnesota literally has one now in Rossi

I’m sure Sabres fans would be absolutely all over that. Minnesota would never trade him for the 9th pick in a million years. You’re off your rocker.

Why would they do that when it’s the dumbest move ever?

 

[Shark Finn]

They finally develop a good player and he wants out

Oh Sabres

 

[SensontheRush]

Yes, it happens once every 7 years or so. I meant that it very rarely happens. So rare that it’s not worth talking about.

All Sabres fans would be open to trading it but are sick of hearing people say “trade the pick” for a decade straight and not a single credible trade rumor has even come out that Buffalo is in talks to actually trade it. It’s not happening.

You have it the other way around.

Teams with high picks are generally rebuilding, thus aren't letting go of their high picks. Buffalo is in a unique situation.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I’m sure Sabres fans would be absolutely all over that. Minnesota would never trade him for the 9th pick in a million years. You’re off your rocker.

Why would they do that when it’s the dumbest move ever?

I mean I don't disagree, I think It's an incredibly stupid decision by Minnesota to even make their 23 year old 60 point center available.

But he is for some reason.

I don't get it but It's happening.

 

[57special]

I’m sure Sabres fans would be absolutely all over that. Minnesota would never trade him for the 9th pick in a million years. You’re off your rocker.

Why would they do that when it’s the dumbest move ever?

In this particular draft, which i believe is fairly weak, I would sure hope that MN would not trade Rossi straight up for #9 oa.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Don't the Sabres own team control until 2028-29? How do they have no choice? They just match any offer.

 

[Barsky]

I mean I don't disagree, I think It's an incredibly stupid decision by Minnesota to even make their 23 year old 60 point center available.

But he is for some reason.

I don't get it but It's happening.

Geurin doesn't like tiny guys and Marco is tiny, seems to be that simple at the end of the day. Didn't give much credence to the rumours until seeing Rossi's playoff ice time, but where there's smoke it seems there is definitely fire on this one

 

[Barsky]

Don't the Sabres own team control until 2028-29? How do they have no choice? They just match any offer.

Why force a guy that doesn't want to be there, to stay there though?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I mean I don't disagree, I think It's an incredibly stupid decision by Minnesota to even make their 23 year old 60 point center available.

But he is for some reason.

I don't get it but It's happening.

Trading him isn’t dumb - but trading him for the 9th pick, like you are proposing is.

You’re wasting everyone’s time by advocating for things that would never happen. I’m officially giving you a pat on the head for a great idea and now we can move on.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Why force a guy that doesn't want to be there, to stay there though?

There is no credible reporting that he’s unhappy in Buffalo.

 

[Barsky]

There is no credible reporting that he’s unhappy in Buffalo.

The inverse is also true and it's not exactly hard to understand why anyone competitive would be unhappy in Buffalo

 

[atlanticobserver]

Except they wouldn't be fine at C without him. They have no other top 6 C's aside from Point, and none of the options on the ufa market are appealing, either in age or expected cost. That, in addition to all the other good points about Cirelli, is why he's very unlikely to be moved.

Meh. You could have Guentzel spend some time at center. The center depth could easily be Point-Guentzel-Paul-Gourde. If not, then you have Point-Paul-Gourde-Geekie or something like that. Maybe even Jack Finley. Although I'm not sure Peterka is the guy you'd move Cirelli for.