Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

[Chainshot]

Yeah.. but the entire basis is wrong. Buffalo has ALL the choices. And there really isn't any pressure on them. I don't get it... Yes teams may be calling on him... yes Adams could even be calling on other teams about him .. but there is NO crisis. The fact he isn't signed right now is no crisis. Talk to me when he is holding out in training camp.

It also leaves out Frank's relationship with Walsh, Peterka's agent. It reminds me of Dreger doing Marner's negotiations in the press if we go back to Mitch's last deal. It isn't the first time Seravalli is pushing Walsh POV as a bigger thing than anyone else.

 

[Zeller]

I hope these are just rumors and agency games. The trade by JJ Peterka is the most unnecessary. He is very talented and has not fully realized his potential yet. I hope Adams doesn't start looking for stupid trades. For example, from the Rangers to someone like a veteran like Kreider or Zibanejad, or a not-so-good prospect like Ottman. If JJ wants to leave the team himself, then it should be a 1-in-1 trade. No veterans over 33+ or a bunch of weak projects.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Joshua as part of the package is what came to my mind as well. We have a lot of forwards internally ready to take his spot.

I've been super high on Willander since before we drafted him after finding out he only started playing D at 15, and the huge jumps in his game in his draft year. Because he started so late and he's already so polished makes me think he still has a bigger jump in skill still compared to guys his age, same thing happened to me with velocity when I switched to pitching from 1st at 15.

Since we're all just making guesses I wonder if instead of Willander we could switch with Mancini, someone who is very raw and a late bloomer at 23 who has had a breakout with the JR Nucks. He's and RHD, big, fast projected as more of a defensive Dman but has lately been showing some offensive potential and is a safe bet as a solid#4 but could be more.

In addition we would add a2026 1st and a 2026 2nd both picks from a much stronger draft.


So a 1st, a 2nd, Mancini, Joshua.
That's more than we gave up for Hronek.

Not saying no to Willander but if he hits his ceiling and becomes a #1-2 two-way stud, JJ would have to be a 30/100 player, because a legit top pairing RHD with 7 years of control to boot is arguably the hardest piece to aquire.

I gotta say tho some of these offers are just shit.
Gotta love fans who only offer the pieces they don't really want to begin with lol

I'm the one who proposed it but I hear you...I'd have a hard time parting with Willander if I was you, even in a one-for-one,

But on the other hand...the Sabres want to start winning and getting younger doesn't help with that. Mancini+ Joshua feels a bit light, while Willander + Joshua feels like a bit too much. Buffalo doesn't need picks, you gotta figure that in there too.

Anyway, I think there's a deal to be found in there somewhere!

 

[Satanphonehome]

It also leaves out Frank's relationship with Walsh, Peterka's agent. It reminds me of Dreger doing Marner's negotiations in the press if we go back to Mitch's last deal. It isn't the first time Seravalli is pushing Walsh POV as a bigger thing than anyone else.

Best post in the thread. Frank is carrying water here.

The question is what is Walsh hoping to achieve by having this out there?

Is he cranking the outside heat up on Adams (who knows his owner loves JJ) to pressure him into an overpay?

Or is he legitimately trying to seed the ground for an actual move desired by his client?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Is he cranking the outside heat up on Adams (who knows his owner loves JJ) to pressure him into an overpay?

Or is he legitimately trying to seed the ground for an actual move desired by his client?

As someone who is hoping that players start asking to be traded, so that it finally wakes the owner up, I honestly don't see that happening at all with Peterka. All signs point to the player and team being happy.

I feel like his agent is just trying to drive his price up, and if that means getting him to a team who values him more, or an offer sheet, that's what he'll want.

 

[Chainshot]

Best post in the thread. Frank is carrying water here.

The question is what is Walsh hoping to achieve by having this out there?

Is he cranking the outside heat up on Adams (who knows his owner loves JJ) to pressure him into an overpay?

Or is he legitimately trying to seed the ground for an actual move desired by his client?

I was wondering if it is leverage on GM's who might think someone else will beat them to the punch on paying his client?

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Name your price from Washington.

 

[sabremike]

As someone who is hoping that players start asking to be traded, so that it finally wakes the owner up, I honestly don't see that happening at all with Peterka. All signs point to the player and team being happy.

I feel like his agent is just trying to drive his price up, and if that means getting him to a team who values him more, or an offer sheet, that's what he'll want.

If having to give away Jack and Sam didn't wake him up nothing will.

 

[TLEH]

Hawks get 23 yr old established NHL top 6 talent back

I would also remind people this time last year it was "Fail for Hagen" and "Hagen draft"

Now look at 2025 draft and Hagen situation

Hawks also would still be setup well draft wise even moving that pick including 3rd overall this year + 25th overall (Leafs pick)

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At NHL/AHL level Hawks would have

C Connor Bedard (2023 1st round)
C Frank Nazar (2022 1st round)
C Oliver Moore (2023 1st round)
W J.J. Peterka (Via this trade)
RW Colton Dach
C Ryan Green
D Alex Vlasic
D Sam Rinzel (2022 1st round)
D Artyom Levshunov (2024 1st round)
D Kevin Korchinski (2022 1st round)
D Nolan Allan (2021 1st round)
D Ethan Del Mastro
G Spencer Knight (2019 1st round)
G Drew Commesso

Among others to build around

We also have in pipeline decent amount of young talent not in NHL or AHL at this point

C Sacha Boisvert (1st round 2024)
LW Marek Vanacker (1st round 2024)
LW Nick Lardis
RW Roman Kantersov
C John Mustard
C Anthony Spellacy
RW Jack Pridham

The 2025 draft isn't the 2026 draft. Which is why the 2025 draft pick was on the table for Demidov, and the 2026 pick isn't. Hope this helps.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

If having to give away Jack and Sam didn't wake him up nothing will.

Well than I still hope good players ask out because he doesn’t deserve them.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Apparently Seravalli just said that "Tampa is closer to the Peterka conversation than the Bennett situation." Connecting some dots here, apparently Buffalo was interested in Isaac Howard at the deadline but TB didn't want to move him. Have to think he would be included in this trade in the 0.0001% chance TB can pull it off. But beyond him I have no idea who Buffalo would get in return.

 

[Beerz]

Apparently Seravalli just said that "Tampa is closer to the Peterka conversation than the Bennett situation." Connecting some dots here, apparently Buffalo was interested in Isaac Howard at the deadline but TB didn't want to move him. Have to think he would be included in this trade in the 0.0001% chance TB can pull it off. But beyond him I have no idea who Buffalo would get in return.

I mean it seems like a Buffalo move... develop a player and then trade him for a new shiny toy and wait 3 or 4 years and repeat process.

Obviously this is idiotic as Howard doesn't come close to even putting a dent in Peterkas value.

I don't see anything interesting available from Tampa that would sway me.

 

[Djp]

Maybe a club offers 9x5? The Sabres match?

9M is 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd for compensation. Depends on the team.

Apparently Seravalli just said that "Tampa is closer to the Peterka conversation than the Bennett situation." Connecting some dots here, apparently Buffalo was interested in Isaac Howard at the deadline but TB didn't want to move him. Have to think he would be included in this trade in the 0.0001% chance TB can pull it off. But beyond him I have no idea who Buffalo would get in return.

Howard does not get Peterka. Hes a very small add on and that's before factoring him digning

 

[atlanticobserver]

9M is 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd for compensation. Depends on the team.

Howard does not get Peterka. Hes a very small add on and that's before factoring him digning

Obviously not just Howard. Probably Cirelli and Howard if you ask me. I don't think that should be too far off value wise. Buffalo wants a proven NHL player and get that in Cirelli, a Selke trophy nominee. They also expressed interest in Howard at TDL reportedly but TB didn't want to part ways with him. Maybe throw a second or third back to TB since Buffalo's cupboards are loaded. Fair?

 

[atlanticobserver]

I mean it seems like a Buffalo move... develop a player and then trade him for a new shiny toy and wait 3 or 4 years and repeat process.

Obviously this is idiotic as Howard doesn't come close to even putting a dent in Peterkas value.

I don't see anything interesting available from Tampa that would sway me.

All I was saying was that TB acquiring Peterka would basically necessitate Howard going back to Buffalo. I think a trade would center around Anthony Cirelli. Basically the only way TB can get Peterka is to move Cirelli and I don't think that he'd be a bad fit for Buffalo who is loaded to the gills with winger prospects but is kind of lacking in the center department. Coming off a career year and a nomination for the Selke trophy. Would go a long way to bolster a Buffalo team that has plentiful offense but struggles to keep the puck out of their net. Also a bargain of a contract.

 

[Beerz]

Obviously not just Howard. Probably Cirelli and Howard if you ask me. I don't think that should be too far off value wise. Buffalo wants a proven NHL player and get that in Cirelli, a Selke trophy nominee. They also expressed interest in Howard at TDL reportedly but TB didn't want to part ways with him. Maybe throw a second or third back to TB since Buffalo's cupboards are loaded. Fair?

No.. not fair. We playing Cirelli in top 6 Center duties? .. The guy has been a 30 to 40 point Centerman his entire career .. We have McLeod for 3C duties.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Any interest in Noah Dobson?

 

[Beerz]

Any interest in Noah Dobson?

For 1 year? Not particularly

 

[atlanticobserver]

No.. not fair. We playing Cirelli in top 6 Center duties? .. The guy has been a 30 to 40 point Centerman his entire career .. We have McLeod for 3C duties.

It's alright if you don't think it's fair, but no need to lie. Dude had 60 points last year, is a Selke nominee, one of the premier penalty killers in the league. He was a top 6 center on a team that went to three cups in a row. I'm pretty sure he would play top six minutes for the Sabres. Your centers are Kulich, McLeod, Krebs, and Ostlund. Peterka does not want to stay. You might get a better package but that would be due to prospects or draft capital, which Sabres fans on here don't seem to want to touch with a 10 foot pole. Regardless, I don't really see the trade happening.

What would be an ideal return for Peterka, then?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

What would be an ideal return for Peterka, then?

So far no one has come close to Ottawa's offer of Zub. The only way Buffalo trades Peterka is for something like that.

 

[Beerz]

It's alright if you don't think it's fair, but no need to lie. Dude had 60 points last year, is a Selke nominee, one of the premier penalty killers in the league. He was a top 6 center on a team that went to three cups in a row. I'm pretty sure he would play top six minutes for the Sabres. Your centers are Kulich, McLeod, Krebs, and Ostlund. Peterka does not want to stay. You might get a better package but that would be due to prospects or draft capital, which Sabres fans on here don't seem to want to touch with a 10 foot pole. Regardless, I don't really see the trade happening.

What would be an ideal return for Peterka, then?

Our Centers are Norris ,Thompson,McLeod, Kulich,Krebs,Ostlund at any given time.

Yes.. I too could score at least 30 to 40 points with Hagel and Kuch.

What numbers do you think represents Cirelli the best.. his consistent numbers over a course of many years or the one outlier year playing with those 2 players?

 

[atlanticobserver]

Our Centers are Norris ,Thompson,McLeod, Kulich,Krebs,Ostlund at any given time.

Yes.. I too could score at least 30 to 40 points with Hagel and Kuch.

What numbers do you think represents Cirelli the best.. his consistent numbers over a course of many years or the one outlier year playing with those 2 players?

Forgot Norris. Thought Thompson spent more time at RW. Cirelli only played ~100 more mins with Kucherov this year than last. Hagel is the real factor you can point to, but there's no reason he couldn't do basically the same thing with Tuch. For the record, this is the seventh year in a row he will be receiving Selke votes. So I'd go with that being representative of the player he is. A perennial Selke level player who can score 20+ goals and is an elite penalty killer for a terrific cap hit with longterm control.

 

[atlanticobserver]

So far no one has come close to Ottawa's offer of Zub. The only way Buffalo trades Peterka is for something like that.

Is Cirelli + rights to Isaac Howard not as appealing as Zub?

 

[Spurgeon]

I think it’s just gonna be a straight trade of Rossi for Peterka.

 

[PattyLafontaine]

Why does Buffalo always seem to have issues with so many players etc. Seems there is always drama. It is no wonder they never make the playoffs. So unstable for one reason or another.

Atrocious owner and sychophant GM