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Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

Satanphonehome said:
Can someone explain to me why "Buffalo may not have a choice?"

Peterka is 4 years away from RFA. He has no arbitration rights. The Sabres have plenty of cap...?

The only way I can see that happening is he plans to hold out and simply refuse to sign, ever. Was that threatened?
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Because if they hold on to him for 3-4 years not only will they lose leverage, but whoever acquires him won't be able to sign him to as favourable of a deal because of how close he is to unrestricted free agency. There is always a risk that he would want to walk to free agency, and could only be traded as a rental.

If they trade him now, he's guaranteed not to be a rental and the team that acquires him can most likely get him signed to a long term contract that is at a great cap hit because it would incorporate 4 RFA years into the cap hit.

It might be the difference between getting another young star for him or a package built around a top 5-10 pick in this draft vs getting a playoff 1st and a few other pieces for him as rental.

That's assuming an offer sheet does not materialize. A good team with cap space could offer him a 1 year 9.36M contract and get him for a playoff 1st/2nd/3rd, and then negotiate a long-term extension in January. For Buffalo, because he won't sign long-term, that would create a situation where he can sign his QO each year for 9.36M and walk to free agency. Is Buffalo ownership going to approve matching an offer sheet that is the equivalent to signing him to a 4 year 9.36M contract (as in, 4 separate 1 year 9.36M contracts).

The above paragraph might even be why he gets dealt early. There would be risk to holding on to his rights after July 1st.
 
Fatass said:
As an old timer who doesn’t get these trade threads could I get clarification? When a poster responds with “I would” do they mean anything more than simply what they, as a fan, would do? Or is there some added meaning, like I hope my club would do this? Or, I think my club would do this?
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"if I was the GM" is silent in " I would ......" comments.

I would trade Ekholm for Peterka if his salary demands aren't crazy.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Because if they hold on to him for 3-4 years not only will they lose leverage, but whoever acquires him won't be able to sign him to as favourable of a deal because of how close he is to unrestricted free agency. There is always a risk that he would want to walk to free agency, and could only be traded as a rental.

If they trade him now, he's guaranteed not to be a rental and the team that acquires him can most likely get him signed to a long term contract that is at a great cap hit because it would incorporate 4 RFA years into the cap hit.

It might be the difference between getting another young star for him or a package built around a top 5-10 pick in this draft vs getting a playoff 1st and a few other pieces for him as rental.

That's assuming an offer sheet does not materialize. A good team with cap space could offer him a 1 year 9.36M contract and get him for a playoff 1st/2nd/3rd, and then negotiate a long-term extension in January. For Buffalo, because he won't sign long-term, that would create a situation where he can sign his QO each year for 9.36M and walk to free agency. Is Buffalo ownership going to approve matching an offer sheet that is the equivalent to signing him to a 4 year 9.36M contract (as in, 4 separate 1 year 9.36M contracts).

The above paragraph might even be why he gets dealt early. There would be risk to holding on to his rights after July 1st.
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Without addressing the merit of any of these scenarios, none of them leave Buffalo without a choice; on the contrary, they all represent choices.

And they're certainly not choices that are particular to Buffalo or Peterka, they're available and/or relevant to any talented player and his team at the end of his 1st contract.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
Take it for what it's worth because it's Frank.

But he just did a YouTube video for daily faceoff and when they get to their trade target section he says that he believes that things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.

If that's true that's pretty bad he's a very good, young player.

The upside is there would be A LOT of interest they would get a solid return but it wouldn't be JJ Peterka
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Serevalli making garbage rumours up. First Demko and now this. Just waiting for his next BS rumour, maybe Tkatchuk leaving Florida for St. Louis because his dad played there before 🙄
 
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jackjohnson said:
Serevalli making garbage rumours up. First Demko and now this. Just waiting for his next BS rumour, maybe Tkatchuk leaving Florida for St. Louis because his dad played there before 🙄
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The funny thing about the Demko thing is he said him and Rick are real close when Tochett literally said last year he doesn't really talk to the goalies but would like to get to know them better.
There was also a rumour that Demko wasn't happy with how Tochett approached Demko's recovery and his useage at certain points.
So basically as usual Franks full of shit and as one of the media guys who has a beef with the nucks owner and is always trying to get a rise out of nuck fans.

I will say tho I would love for him to be right about JJ, I would love him on the nucks.
 
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cbjthrowaway said:
yeah obviously this would be a very different deal but mikey anderson is the type of player i'd give up voronkov+ to get. he fits our needs extremely well.


not exactly sure what the plus would be there but i assume it'd be workable for columbus. not sure if LAK wants picks (or what the cost would be there) or would prefer the extra part of that to be a roster player (chinakhov) or prospect (svozil?). but the basic framework is doable.
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What about a 3-way deal here...

LA: Byram, Peterka, Sillinger, Elick/Ceulemans
Columbus: Anderson, Danault
Buffalo: Voronkov, Spence, LA 1st, F. Pinelli
 
Zman5778 said:
Buffalo's needs:

1.) A RHD who can actually play defense and PK
2.) A two-way center
3.) A LHD who can play with Dahlin and soak lots of minutes and play defense

We've got wing prospects coming out the ears....we DON'T need any of those
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So what does Buffalo do if a winger like Victor Eklund is sitting there where Buffalo is drafting? Do they take yet another d-man instead? :dunno:
 
Doug Prishpreed said:
Joshua is a good call. I forget what his contract looks like but he could be more valuable than you’d think based on last season.
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Joshua as part of the package is what came to my mind as well. We have a lot of forwards internally ready to take his spot.

I've been super high on Willander since before we drafted him after finding out he only started playing D at 15, and the huge jumps in his game in his draft year. Because he started so late and he's already so polished makes me think he still has a bigger jump in skill still compared to guys his age, same thing happened to me with velocity when I switched to pitching from 1st at 15.

Since we're all just making guesses I wonder if instead of Willander we could switch with Mancini, someone who is very raw and a late bloomer at 23 who has had a breakout with the JR Nucks. He's and RHD, big, fast projected as more of a defensive Dman but has lately been showing some offensive potential and is a safe bet as a solid#4 but could be more.

In addition we would add a2026 1st and a 2026 2nd both picks from a much stronger draft.


So a 1st, a 2nd, Mancini, Joshua.
That's more than we gave up for Hronek.

Not saying no to Willander but if he hits his ceiling and becomes a #1-2 two-way stud, JJ would have to be a 30/100 player, because a legit top pairing RHD with 7 years of control to boot is arguably the hardest piece to aquire.

I gotta say tho some of these offers are just shit.
Gotta love fans who only offer the pieces they don't really want to begin with lol
 
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ManByng said:
So what does Buffalo do if a winger like Victor Eklund is sitting there where Buffalo is drafting? Do they take yet another d-man instead? :dunno:
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They shouldn't take anyone with it, they should move it for help now.

It's been 14 years since they made the playoffs, there is no end in sight.

It's time to actually do something that's real, something that counts, something that matters.
 
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bringbacktheskate604 said:
Joshua as part of the package is what came to my mind as well. We have a lot of forwards internally ready to take his spot.

I've been super high on Willander since before we drafted him after finding out he only started playing D at 15, and the huge jumps in his game in his draft year. Because he started so late and he's already so polished makes me think he still has a bigger jump in skill still compared to guys his age, same thing happened to me with velocity when I switched to pitching from 1st at 15.

Since we're all just making guesses I wonder if instead of Willander we could switch with Mancini, someone who is very raw and a late bloomer at 23 who has had a breakout with the JR Nucks. He's and RHD, big, fast projected as more of a defensive Dman but has lately been showing some offensive potential and is a safe bet as a solid#4 but could be more.

In addition we would add a2026 1st and a 2026 2nd both picks from a much stronger draft.


So a 1st, a 2nd, Mancini, Joshua.
That's more than we gave up for Hronek.

Not saying no to Willander but if he hits his ceiling and becomes a #1-2 two-way stud, JJ would have to be a 30/100 player, because a legit top pairing RHD with 7 years of control to boot is arguably the hardest piece to aquire.

I gotta say tho some of these offers are just shit.
Gotta love fans who only offer the pieces they don't really want to begin with lol
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I would suggest a legitimate #1 center is the hardest piece to acquire but otherwise I agree
 
Doug Prishpreed said:
Teams are offering up good packages for Peterka…makes me wish this dumb rumor was actually true!
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Franks a hack no doubt.
The thing is and I say this as someone who thinks sabres fans a awesome and the city is one of the best sports town going and I don't know if it's the owners or the management but I can understand why players might want to leave, all that losing year after year has to be hard. Even you guys the fans who deserve so much better are not filling the rink every night.

That being said he's under contract so the sabres control the situation but Adams needs to ice a playoff team and if a trade comes along that helps achieve that you have to listen.
 
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bringbacktheskate604 said:
Franks a hack no doubt.
The thing is and I say this as someone who thinks sabres fans a awesome and the city is one of the best sports town going and I don't know if it's the owners or the management but I can understand why players might want to leave, all that losing year after year has to be hard. Even you guys the fans who deserve so much better are not filling the rink every night.

That being said he's under contract so the sabres control the situation but Adams needs to ice a playoff team and if a trade comes along that helps achieve that you have to listen.
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He's not under contract, he's an RFA he can hold out, and even if he were that doesn't matter, Eichel was under, contract so was ROR, and Kane etc.

All a contract does is ensure the player gets paid.

Beyond that contracts don't mean shit.
 
Who knows how much validity there is to this, or just Seravalli making things up for attention, or if it's a negotiating tactic using him as a mouthpiece for Peterka's agent.

But if true...this is why it sucks to suck, and where teams can get stuck on a treadmill with their rebuilds like Buffalo has seemed to be. Young promising players come up, establish themselves, and end up wanting out because it never seems to be gaining any traction. Which in turn, just makes it so much more difficult to ever actually gain any traction. Just spinning their wheels becoming a feeder system for other teams. Really frustrating...but that's the danger of falling into these sort of tank out rebuilds. It can be extremely difficult to ever get going again if it takes too long. Always bailing out a sinking ship just trying to stay above water...some guys are going to want to jump ship.
 
Canucks LB said:
Seems pretty fair, looks like we got a deal😅
Being a general manager is easy
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If I was Allvin I'd do everything I can to switch Mancini ( who is a very good prospect currently killing it)for Willander. Add a 1st, 2nd if that's what it takes.

Ive been saying since the under 18's that he's special after learning he had been a Dman for less than three years at that point and how massive a jump from the beginning of his draft year to the end.

I like JJ a lot, always have but very few wingers hold the value of a top pairing RHD.
I mean it's a given with his attributes and skill-set he's gonna be an elite defender, throw in the fact that due to his delayed start and role he played in Boston he hasn't even scratched the surface of what his offensive potential could be.

Not saying it's gonna happen but imagine if he becomes a guy that can put up 60+ points and that's his second best part of his game.
Maybe I'm wrong and if JJ was a Centre I'd be less concerned but man what a kick in the nuts that would be.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
He's been wrong about A LOT

Last off season he said Necas would be traded before game 1 of the finals, he wasn't although he was eventually traded but nowhere NEAR when Frank said he would be.

After signing his contract, Frank said Nick Robertson would still be traded he wasn't.

Last off season he said Mitch Marner was going to be traded he wasn't.

You already brought up the Gibson thing

There is a reason my first line is "Take it for what It's worth because it's Frank."
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He's terrible. He says Demko and Tochett are close when there's an interview where Toch says he doesn't spend a lot of time with the goalies on or off the ice.
There was also talk that Demko wasn't happy with how Tochett approached his rehab and his input on his workload and other stuff all the way back to 22-23.

Yet they are close according to him and that makes Demko linked despite the fact the biggest reason we didn't make the playoffs was goaltending.
All three duck goalies had better stats than Lankinen, great backup not a starter so let's trade our fully healthy vezina level goalie in a season where Quinn can sign an extension. Ya that makes a ton of sense lol
 
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