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Seravalli: Buffalo may not have a choice but to trade Peterka

Sure, with QMusty and say the Sharks first next year.

I would make Musty available but the 1st next year is going to be at the very least top 5 and no way does a winger bring in that kind of value.

I'd offer either the Dallas 1st and Ottawa 2nd this year or the Edmonton 1st next year alone (on top of Ferraro and Musty to be clear).
 
Take it for what it's worth because it's Frank.

But he just did a YouTube video for daily faceoff and when they get to their trade target section he says that he believes that things have gone sideways between Buffalo and Peterka and that they may not have a choice but to trade him.

If that's true that's pretty bad he's a very good, young player.

The upside is there would be A LOT of interest they would get a solid return but it wouldn't be JJ Peterka
Is this like the Reinhart and Eichel thing again?
 
Meddling owners. Honestly they need to invest in management and cleaning house.

I know Shanahan is a meme but for Toronto he did a lot of good work in his first years changing everything about the organization. I think they need that in Buffalo.

I don't think it's the city. Winning can make it a destination.


A lot of teams need that 1 2 and 3 (though not Dahlin specific)

Peterka though would be a huge dangling piece though should definitely be the piece of be one of the pieces to make it happen.

Honesty I agree, say what you want about Shanny it didn't end the way anybody wanted.

But the reality is in his first few years here he brought credibility back to Toronto.

Let's not act like Mike Babcock wasn't considered the best coach in the league when he left Detroit because he was and Shanny got him.

Let's not act like Lou wasn't and isn't considered one of greatest GM's of all time because he was and is and Shanny got him.

He fixed the relationship with Dave Keon.

He built a good, young, fast team.

He brought credibility back to Toronto and he did it with a hell of a lot less then Buffalo currently has.

William Nylander wasn't drafted yet, he started with NOTHING in Toronto.

I actually think Shanny could help them, at least for a few years.
 
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If I’m remembering correctly, Lance Lysowki, Renaud Lavoie, and Frank Seravalli all separately reported that the Rangers were close to acquiring Peterka around the deadline. I don’t think anyone ever reported more in-depth on that potential deal, but this seems like a good chance for Drury to revisit those talks.

I know it’s been discussed in other threads, but JJP seems like a great long-term fit for what Drury wants to build. He reminds me a lot of a younger Jake Guentzel, and we all know Drury tried really hard to get him from PIT and then again before he signed in Tampa. Kid’s a hell of a player and very underrated.

I feel bad for Sabres fans if they have to end up losing him
 
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Its too bad for Sabres fans that the Bills drafted Josh Allen and the sporting world is suddenly tricked to believe that the Pegulas are competent.

More that he stumbled into McDermott and that brought a competent GM in Beane than anything to do with Allen. Apparently they had to spend hours going over everything about Allen to convince Pegula he was the right guy to draft -- somewhere I read it was a 7 hour meeting.

He has had NFL success by accident. As an owner, there have been few if any worse in the 2000's.
 
They determined to prolong mediocrity while delaying an inevitable, painful rebuild?
No but adding higher end asset like Peterka will help them compete when they do get the core pieces in place. Not every rebuild has to be like Chicago where you tear it down to the studs and start with a franchise piece. Before the Penguins got Sid they had collected/draft Whitney, Armstrong, MAF, Malkin, Talbot, etc who were then able to compliment Sid. It wasn't draft Sid THEN collect high end pieces to surround him.

Doing it the Chicago way is a good way to waste the prime years of a franchise player.
 
Is this because he will receive an offer sheet?

I wonder if we see a trade similar to the Hamilton one in 2015. Boston traded him for 15th, 45th, and 52nd. This was apparently because they thought he would sign an offer sheet. So the return was anchored to the expected compensation. The picks they received were better than a future 1st+2nd+3rd that might be late in the round.

I wonder if one of the teams in the top 10 of the draft would move their pick for him.
 
Chicago will be all over Peterka

Any of the following pieces fit?

Connor Murphy (RHD) or Louis Crevier (RHD)
Jason Dickinson (two way C) or Ryan Greene (two way C)
Wyatt Kaiser (LHD) or Kevin Korchinski (LHD) or Nolan Allan (LHD)

I think they'd all be made available for Peterka

Jason Dickinson is not, at all a 2 way center.

Not even remotely close
 
Is this because he will receive an offer sheet?

I wonder if we see a trade similar to the Hamilton one in 2015. Boston traded him for 15th, 45th, and 52nd. This was apparently because they thought he would sign an offer sheet. So the return was anchored to the expected compensation. The picks they received were better than a future 1st+2nd+3rd that might be late in the round.

I wonder if one of the teams in the top 10 of the draft would move their pick for him.

Frank did say he could sign an offer sheet
 
No but adding higher end asset like Peterka will help them compete when they do get the core pieces in place. Not every rebuild has to be like Chicago where you tear it down to the studs and start with a franchise piece. Before the Penguins got Sid they had collected/draft Whitney, Armstrong, MAF, Malkin, Talbot, etc who were then able to compliment Sid. It wasn't draft Sid THEN collect high end pieces to surround him.

Doing it the Chicago way is a good way to waste the prime years of a franchise player.

PIT having Peterka for their rebuild is essentially the equivalent of Detroit having Larkin or San Jose having Couture...

Except they drafted those players and didn't spend assets to acquire them.
 
If I’m remembering correctly, Lance Lysowki, Renaud Lavoie, and Frank Seravalli all separately reported that the Rangers were close to acquiring Peterka around the deadline. I don’t think anyone ever reported more in-depth on that potential deal, but this seems like a good chance for Drury to revisit those talks.

I know it’s been discussed in other threads, but JJP seems like a great long-term fit for what Drury wants to build. He reminds me a lot of a younger Jake Guentzel, and we all know Drury tried really hard to get him from PIT and then again before he signed in Tampa. Kid’s a hell of a player and very underrated.

I feel bad for Sabres fans if they have to end up losing him

They reported that the Rangers were interested, not that they were ever close. There is a possibility Lance was using Seravalli's own reporting on it. Not sure Lavoie's source.
 
PIT having Peterka for their rebuild is essentially the equivalent of Detroit having Larkin or San Jose having Couture...

Except they drafted those players and didn't spend assets to acquire them.
So? Having either of them didn't change the trajectory of the team performance, especially Couture.

Anaheim has Terry and Zegras, no?
 
Sign and trade

To :hawks
J.J. Peterka (8 x $9M)

To :sabres
D Wyatt Kaiser (RFA)
Hawks 2026 1st round pick (Unprotected)

- Hawks get a proven young NHL top 6 winger (23 yrs old) we can lock in for 8 years as part of core going forward

- Sabres get a 22 yr old NHL LD who established himself in Hawks top 4 this past season playing 57 Games with 4 goals + 4 assists while being even on dreadful Hawks team and playing 18 minutes a night

Offer sheet comp for Sabres at 9M for Peterka is a 1st + 2nd + 3rd but I would argue Hawks 1st + Kaiser is better value than other potential teams who would offer sheet

Sabres could then flip Hawks pick or their own 2026 1st to improve immediate roster at W or C if they desire

Not every rebuild has to be like Chicago where you tear it down to the studs and start with a franchise piece.

Doing it the Chicago way is a good way to waste the prime years of a franchise player.

Connor Bedard is 19 yrs old, How are Hawks wasting his prime years?
 
So here is the thing, dude is just coming off his ELC. He can sit down and shut it. Dude hasn't earned the right to want out. Maybe if he learned what the defensive zone is. He is an RFA. He will take a deal or sign an OS that the Sabres easily match.

Sabres are not taking futures back.
 
So? Having either of them didn't change the trajectory of the team performance, especially Couture.

Anaheim has Terry and Zegras, no?

Trading assets to acquire a Larkin/Couture sure does change the trajectory... And yes, probably prevented those teams from bottoming out quicker.

How is Zegras comparable to any of these guys?
 
Why does Buffalo always seem to have issues with so many players etc. Seems there is always drama. It is no wonder they never make the playoffs. So unstable for one reason or another.
Losing isn't fun. They watch nothing change year-to-year in the sense that you feel good about the season starting. A bad team can cost the player millions of dollars. At the atmosphere isn't the best selling point.
 
Sign and trade

To :hawks
J.J. Peterka (8 x $9M)

To :sabres
D Wyatt Kaiser (RFA)
Hawks 2026 1st round pick (Unprotected)

- Hawks get a proven young NHL top 6 winger (23 yrs old) we can lock in for 8 years as part of core going forward

- Sabres get a 22 yr old NHL LD who established himself in Hawks top 4 this past season playing 57 Games with 4 goals + 4 assists while being even on dreadful Hawks team and playing 18 minutes a night

Offer sheet comp for Sabres at 9M for Peterka is a 1st + 2nd + 3rd but I would argue Hawks 1st + Kaiser is better value than other potential teams who would offer sheet

Sabres could then flip Hawks pick or their own 2026 1st to improve immediate roster at W or C if they desire



Connor Bedard is 19 yrs old, How are Hawks wasting his prime years?

Hawks trading an unprotected 1st in the Mckenna draft seems utterly insane to me.
 
Sign and trade

To :hawks
J.J. Peterka (8 x $9M)

To :sabres
D Wyatt Kaiser (RFA)
Hawks 2026 1st round pick (Unprotected)

- Hawks get a proven young NHL top 6 winger (23 yrs old) we can lock in for 8 years as part of core going forward

- Sabres get a 22 yr old NHL LD who established himself in Hawks top 4 this past season playing 57 Games with 4 goals + 4 assists while being even on dreadful Hawks team and playing 18 minutes a night

Offer sheet comp for Sabres at 9M for Peterka is a 1st + 2nd + 3rd but I would argue Hawks 1st + Kaiser is better value than other potential teams who would offer sheet

Sabres could then flip Hawks pick or their own 2026 1st to improve immediate roster at W or C if they desire



Connor Bedard is 19 yrs old, How are Hawks wasting his prime years?

Buffalo's defense doesn't need to get any younger.

The value is probably correct, I don't think the Sabres are going to want another young d-man though

So here is the thing, dude is just coming off his ELC. He can sit down and shut it. Dude hasn't earned the right to want out. Maybe if he learned what the defensive zone is. He is an RFA. He will take a deal or sign an OS that the Sabres easily match.

Sabres are not taking futures back.

This isn't 2003 when players didn't have rights till they turned 28.

If Peterka wants out, he can accomplish it in a lot of ways.

He can simply tell the sabres "I'm going to solicit an offersheet that is signing bonus heavy, if you match, I will take the signing bonus and sit out a year". It would force the Sabres hand.

After Eichel's memorable presser in 2021 after the team denied him the back surgery he wanted, Adams went on about how he only wanted "Players that want to be here"

If Peterka has said he wants out, the Sabres won't have a ton of a choice. If they trade him, they can at least control the narrative a bit and get more immediate help. If they let him get offersheeted....then things can get messy.
 
Buffalo fans don't trust Norris will stay healthy, and prefer Thompson on the wing and/or don't see him as the 1C on a competing team.

They are right to not trust Norris to stay healthy. Dude is made of glass and I have no idea why they willingly took on his contract knowing his history.

Interesting that they prefer Thompson at RW. I know he sucks at faceoffs but he's been pretty damn good at center since being moved there.
 
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