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BigBadBruins7708

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I loved this line from Max Scherzer....

Max Scherzer, a three-time Cy Young winner, just threw another pitch high-and-inside directed at Major League Baseball owners.
“Some owners have mentioned owning a team isn’t very NET profitable," the Washington Nationals ace tweeted on Wednesday. "You know what other company isn’t very NET profitable? Amazon."

Yeah but last I checked MLB teams don't get to sell themselves on the stock market
 
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No but they can sell their franchise and become billionaires (if they aren’t already) or sell stakes in their franchise for huge chunks of money


can’t say this enough about the owners: OPEN THE BOOKS OR SHUT UP AND DO WHAT THE PLAYERS WANT
 

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Basically the people who are pro-owner are saying it’s completely ok for the owners to arbitrarily tell the players how much money they should be ok with losing without disclosing the percentage they themselves are going to be losing. They’re asking these guys to take massive cuts and I can GUARANTEE they aren’t looking at losing nearly that much money, otherwise the books would already be open.

That’s absurd. Until the books are open this is 100% the owners fault.


My general rule of thumb: don’t trust a billionaire. They got to be billionaires for a reason. I mean.......would you trust John Henry or Tom Werner? I know I wouldn’t. Most other ownership groups aren’t much different (if you think our guys are cheap you should look around). They’re absolutely trying to stiff the players.
 
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Let’s use Jerry Reinsdorf and the Chicago White Sox as an example. The White Sox are by no means a marquis MLB franchise. Reinsdorf bought them in 1981 for $19mil. According to Forbes, that franchise is worth $1.65 billion today.

That’s an 87x return on his money over the last 39 years.

in comparison, the average MLB salary in 1981 was $185,651. Today it’s $4.4mil. That’s a 24x increase, and unlike the owners, there aren’t any players still active from 1981.

Given the amount of Americans out of work right now, it’s hard to feel sorry for either side, and neither the players or owners are gonna be clipping coupons any time soon. That’s what makes this whole stalemate completely idiotic. However if this season is cancelled, this sits squarely on the owners shoulders.
 
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How much would the players make under the MLBs proposal?
Depends on which proposal you are referring to. Here are the terms of the original tentative agreement between MLB and the players, reached back in March. Basically a fully prorated salary.....half pay for half a season of games played.
Details of MLB-players' union agreement on 2020, '21 seasons

Since then, MLB has tried to renege on the original agreement and have proposed revised terms, per below:
  • May 26: 82 games with a sliding salary scale (roughly 33 percent of full season salary)
  • June 8: 76 games at 75 percent prorated pay (35 percent of full season salary)
  • June 12: 72 games at 80 percent prorated pay (36 percent of full season salary)
 

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I watched Long Gone Summer and I came to the conclusion that Sammy Sosa is awesome and it's a joke that the Cubs won't acknowledge him at all.
 
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then there's a separate fight between Baseball and the NAPBL/Minor League Baseball on the horizon independent of the pandemic and that's the contraction of 40 markets across that sport and in some cases, contraction of entire classifications or Leagues that some were bracing themselves for beginning in 2021, as that was put on hold in this pandemic....

we knew how the Mets were scheduled to replace Binghamton with Brooklyn..... what we were waiting to hear is the status of Erie(AA-Detroit) going forward from here.

how, locally, does the loss of Lowell as an affiliate impact FSG, at the same time the transition from Pawtucket to Worcester at the AAA Level was also impacted by the existing/ongoing pandemic if there's no baseball at any professional level.
 

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then there's a separate fight between Baseball and the NAPBL/Minor League Baseball on the horizon independent of the pandemic and that's the contraction of 40 markets across that sport and in some cases, contraction of entire classifications or Leagues that some were bracing themselves for beginning in 2021, as that was put on hold in this pandemic....

we knew how the Mets were scheduled to replace Binghamton with Brooklyn..... what we were waiting to hear is the status of Erie(AA-Detroit) going forward from here.

how, locally, does the loss of Lowell as an affiliate impact FSG, at the same time the transition from Pawtucket to Worcester at the AAA Level was also impacted by the existing/ongoing pandemic if there's no baseball at any professional level.
 

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I have reached the conclusion that both sides suck and do not care about the game's survival. They're just too busy trying to f*** each other over & over & over again to pay attention to what is happening outside their war. Too bad both sides can't lose.

If there is anything left of minor league baseball once MLB gets through wrecking it as well I'll be following/watching that instead.
 
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If there is anything left of minor league baseball once MLB gets through wrecking it as well I'll be following/watching that instead.
My very few visits to Fenway over the last 30 years were the biggest factor destroying my appreciation for MLB. (Second was probably Joe Buck and putrid TV coverage in general ....) Now our most enjoyable local MiLB venue is on the chopping block.
 
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My very few visits to Fenway over the last 30 years were the biggest factor destroying my appreciation for MLB. (Second was probably Joe Buck and putrid TV coverage in general ....) Now our most enjoyable local MiLB venue is on the chopping block.

We might lose our local MiLB team as well. Dodd Stadium is a great place to watch a game, I've been to several minor league games and my nephew played there a few times when he was in high school.
 

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We might lose our local MiLB team as well. Dodd Stadium is a great place to watch a game, I've been to several minor league games and my nephew played there a few times when he was in high school.
They did say they would help most of the 42 markets transition to Independent and Collegiate baseball.
 
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