Confirmed Trade: [BUF/WSH] Beck Malenstyn for 2024 2nd round pick (43OA)

[qc14]

I think Malenstyn is a better player than some people are giving him credit for and while it was an overpayment I don't think it was crazy for Buffalo to give up a 2nd for him.

It is pretty hilarious though that they saw how insanely great the Caps' 4th line was last year and in trying to recreate it got the two guys least responsible for its success. If anything the Caps' 4th line (once again anchored by Dowd) is even better with Duhaime and Raddysh

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The point is the pick was as place holder to get thr players you target.

Buffalo does not need more drafted players now.

You really want to go doen thud rabbit hole.....


Traded a 1st teice to unload contracts
Traded 2nds for rentals and have nothing to show for it.


They traded the picks a few weeks before the draft

They did not need snf were never drafting dickinson. they do not need a Hutson type of player

One of those 1sts brought back the pick that turned into Fraser Minten, that one at least looks like It's going to work out.

The other turned into Seth Jarvis that one hurts.

 

[Djp]

One of those 1sts brought back the pick that turned into Fraser Minten, that one at least looks like It's going to work out.

The other turned into Seth Jarvis that one hurts.

Check back in in a few years. This talk was made over the years with other prospects

 

[Coffee]

I'm not sure you realized it but you just walked into the point others are making

let him reword it

 

[Djp]

let him reword it

Wont happen

 

[Panthaz89]

Dude it was an awful trade. Sabres are even worse this year than last year. The 2nd should have been used to get defense that Adams has ignored for years.

Who trades a 2nd for a 4th line player thats not physical and brings nothing special. Answer? Kevyn Adams.

If you don't think he is physical you might as well say you haven't bothered actually watching a game instead of throwing up charts of offensive and defensive advanced stats doesn't determine if a player is physical lmao.

 

[Djp]

If you don't think he is physical you might as well say you haven't bothered actually watching a game instead of throwing up charts of offensive and defensive advanced stats doesn't determine if a player is physical lmao.

Funny tthng....

Most of the skaters drafted in the 2nd round tend to be bottom 6/ 4-6 D pair players if they make a career in the nhl

 

[Dirty Dog]

Sure he's an NHL player, that doesn't mean you should trade a 2nd round pick for him.

Andrew Mangipane went for a 2nd round pick,

Matthew Knies was a 2nd round pick 57th overall, baring injury that kid is going to score 20+ goals this year.

Fraser Minten was a 2nd round pick 38th overall he is 2 goals and 4 points behind Malenstyn and he's played 11 games..

PK Subban and Patrice Bergeron both 2nd round picks, one has a Norris, the other owned the Selke trophy.

And then you have Beck Malenstyn, a 4th liner that got a 2nd round pick.

You want to know why you don't trade a 2nd round pick for Beck Malenstyn?

The answer is above, every single player I mentioned is significantly better then Beck Malenstyn will EVER be.

2nd round picks are worth more because they get you more.

Beck Malenstyn is a worth a 4th, MAYBE a 3rd and Buffalo paid a 2nd because Buffalo has no clue what they are doing.

This is the most HF Boards post I have seen in years. Pure, unadulterated, quintessential, HF Board take

 

[um]

This is the most HF Boards post I have seen in years. Pure, unadulterated, quintessential, HF Board take

I think your post was even more HFey.

 

[toddkaz]

If you don't think he is physical you might as well say you haven't bothered actually watching a game instead of throwing up charts of offensive and defensive advanced stats doesn't determine if a player is physical lmao.

I am sorry, his 6-8 minutes a game its hard to catch everything. 2nd round pick for 8 minutes doesn't exactly get my attention on the ice especially when Buffalo is losing its tough to watch.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I think your post was even more HFey.

NO YOURS

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This is the most HF Boards post I have seen in years. Pure, unadulterated, quintessential, HF Board take

I mean would you trade a 2nd round pick for Steven Lorentz? What about Conor Dewar?

If the logic here is an NHL player is worth a 2nd round pick just because they are an NHL player then every single full time NHL player should be worth a 2nd round pick.

Literally ALL of them.

 

[Uberpecker]

Why is this thread from half a year ago still a thing?

A 2nd round pick from a team that was drowning in picks for a useful bottom six player. What a nothing burger.

I have plenty of bones to pick with this Sabres front office, this trade isn't one of them.

 

[gary559]

This is the most HF Boards post I have seen in years. Pure, unadulterated, quintessential, HF Board take

This place never changes.

 

[Dirty Dog]

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This place never changes.

It’s literally that meme

 

[Fjordy]

Why is this thread from half a year ago still a thing?

A 2nd round pick from a team that was drowning in picks for a useful bottom six player. What a nothing burger.

I have plenty of bones to pick with this Sabres front office, this trade isn't one of them.

Was Robinson worse than Malenstyn? I like Malenstyn, but he wasn't great or anything. Could they have found a similar player in UFA? Re-signed Robinson? Find a cheaper player than Malenstyn? Could they have spent one of those picks to add Marino to play with Power? I think so. It just shows how ineffective Kevyn Adams is as a GM. I just don't understand how this man is trying to build his team and whether he even consulted with Ruff about this.

 

[Ciao]

Sure he's an NHL player, that doesn't mean you should trade a 2nd round pick for him.

Andrew Mangipane went for a 2nd round pick,

Matthew Knies was a 2nd round pick 57th overall, baring injury that kid is going to score 20+ goals this year.

Fraser Minten was a 2nd round pick 38th overall he is 2 goals and 4 points behind Malenstyn and he's played 11 games..

PK Subban and Patrice Bergeron both 2nd round picks, one has a Norris, the other owned the Selke trophy.

And then you have Beck Malenstyn, a 4th liner that got a 2nd round pick.

You want to know why you don't trade a 2nd round pick for Beck Malenstyn?

The answer is above, every single player I mentioned is significantly better then Beck Malenstyn will EVER be.

2nd round picks are worth more because they get you more.

Beck Malenstyn is a worth a 4th, MAYBE a 3rd and Buffalo paid a 2nd because Buffalo has no clue what they are doing.

The exceptions prove the rule that most second-round draft picks don't amount to much.

I don't want to overstate this, as those picks do have significant value, but if one were to look at the second round of the 2016 draft -- where Malenstyn was selected in the fifth round -- we would find that:

- seven players never played a single NHL game, and six players have played more than 300 games;

- 14 have played less than 100 games;

- 19 have played less than 200 games;

- 25 have played less than 300 games; and,

- only 11 players are still active in the NHL this season.

On the other hand, you could point to Alex DeBrincat, Samuel Girard, Philip Hronek, Jordan Kyrou, Ryan Lindgren, and Dillon Dube -- the six players with more than 300 NHL games to date -- as products of the 2016 second round, but they are hardly representative of the full spectrum of that round of the draft.

I quite agree that second-round picks are too valuable to throw away, but I quite disagree with the selective presentation you give to the issue.

As to whether Buffalo overpaid with a second-rounder for Malenstyn is beyond me, but it's certainly open for debate and within the realm of reason.