Proposal: Buf/TB Cirelli for Peterka

[ExtraLoveSauce]

No, he has a full NTC for 2025-26, but the 2025-26 season only begins on July 1st. Until then, they can trade him freely.

If I'm Tampa I'd do it and trade or sign a 2c jjp is really solid has i.proved every year great speed on the forecheck with a lethal shot some fans say he isn't physical enough or good in the dzone while it isn't really a strength it isn't as nearly big of a weakness fans make it out to be and will improve as he matures and obtains more strength as he does play with some bite

 

[atlanticobserver]

And Peterka isnt a right winger, JBB already traded for a top 6 RW and additional winger depth, and Cirelli is an integral core piece. Tampa has no cap space to acquire another high quality 2C, nor are teams with them lining up to move them. Tampa doesn't have the internal C depth either to replace him at this time. Yoir argument remains weak and unconvincing. Sorry you can't help but want to trade Cirelli for the next shiny toy, but as you said, it's a business, and moving Cirelli for JJP is bad business.

Peterka prefers the right wing but doesn’t play it in Buffalo. Cirelli hasn’t produced anywhere near a 2C in the last three years, Paul has outscored him anyway. If he was who he was in the regular season in the playoffs, I’d be right there with you, but he just goes dormant

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Yup! And it's left a lot of people thinking the way they do business is pretty cutthroat.

You can do it, and it's not violating any rules. But it leaves a negative impression with people. Now does that override all over factors? Not necessarily. But if a team starts to get a little older and a little creakier, maybe it shaves off a little more of its room to maneuver. How you treat people matters and people take notice.

If players don’t like it, they can negotiate an NTC that starts right away. That tradeable window is is negotiated for by the team for a reason.

 

[DJN21]

Cirelli shouldve been a Sabre a few years ago. Just get it done.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Cirelli shouldve been a Sabre a few years ago. Just get it done.

One of the rare HFBoards proposals fans of both teams predominantly like. Been screaming this one from the rooftops for a long time

 

[HaNotsri]

Hell yeah from me!

 

[Dirty Dog]

I think Peterka is slightly more valuable but I still do this as a Sabres fan.

 

[JTBF81]

I feel like jjp would be absolutely tremendous for Tampa and that they could fill that 2c hole rather easily whether through trade or free agency and while I still would like cirelli I feel it just makes Tampa more dangerous for longer. Still as I said I'd pull the trigger as a Sabres fan but it requires cirelli to waive

No, Tampa could not replace him at 2C effectively, which is one of the main reasons why the trade is poor for them. After spending more on JJP than what Cirelli is currently making, they'll have less than 4 million in space to sign 2 or 3 additional players. There's no room to.acquirr a.2C even.close to.what Cirelli brings, nor are teams.interested in usually trading players of that caliber. Tampa doesn't need another offensively gifted.LW at this time, especially not at the cost of Cirelli.

 

[atlanticobserver]

No, Tampa could not replace him at 2C effectively, which is one of the main reasons why the trade is poor for them. After spending more on JJP than what Cirelli is currently making, they'll have less than 4 million in space to sign 2 or 3 additional players. There's no room to.acquirr a.2C even.close to.what Cirelli brings, nor are teams.interested in usually trading players of that caliber. Tampa doesn't need another offensively gifted.LW at this time, especially not at the cost of Cirelli.

What Nick Paul brings in May and June is borderline more than what Cirelli brings tbh. Bring me JJP

 

[JTBF81]

Peterka prefers the right wing but doesn’t play it in Buffalo. Cirelli hasn’t produced anywhere near a 2C in the last three years, Paul has outscored him anyway. If he was who he was in the regular season in the playoffs, I’d be right there with you, but he just goes dormant

Ah, so moving the goal posts now, and falling back on pure scoring as your only metric. Clamors about a.right handed shot, gets defeated because Peterka is in fact, left handed, but that's okay because he "prefers" the right side....You're also very incorrect about Paul outscoring him the past 3 years, as Cirelli has more points in fewer regular season games played (133 in 217 vs Paul with 119 in 238, a .61 vs .5 ppg average). Cirelli is better offensively and defensively. Paul is a very good 3C, but not an everyday 2C.

 

[JTBF81]

What Nick Paul brings in May and June is borderline more than what Cirelli brings tbh. Bring me JJP

I am thankful that JBB makes good team decisions 95% of the time and doesn't make regrettable moves posited by a very small number of Tampa fans on one random website.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Ah, so moving the goal posts now, and falling back on pure scoring as your only metric. Clamors about a.right handed shot, gets defeated because Peterka is in fact, left handed, but that's okay because he "prefers" the right side....You're also very incorrect about Paul outscoring him the past 3 years, as Cirelli has more points in fewer regular season games played (133 in 217 vs Paul with 119 in 238, a .61 vs .5 ppg average). Cirelli is better offensively and defensively. Paul is a very good 3C, but not an everyday 2C.

Talking about playoffs. Paul has more goals for half the money. Sure RH shot would be nice but who’s available. Google JJ Peterka and see what position he’s listed as lol. What hand does Kucherov shoot with and what position does he play. Put Paul with Hagel and he’d do fine. Got selke votes earlier in his career as well. I just really don’t think there’s that much Cirelli brings that Paul can’t. I don’t think this trade ever happens but I’d be happy if it did

 

[Djp]

Buffalo gets their coveted 2C who is signed at an affordable long term deal. Lightning get a higher offensive upside winger and replace Cirelli with either Paul or Geekie.

Cirelli is a def 3Cnot a 2C

Withkulichand McLeod this is not a need

 

[Americanadian]

Yup! And it's left a lot of people thinking the way they do business is pretty cutthroat.

You can do it, and it's not violating any rules. But it leaves a negative impression with people. Now does that override all over factors? Not necessarily. But if a team starts to get a little older and a little creakier, maybe it shaves off a little more of its room to maneuver. How you treat people matters and people take notice.

Gourde didn’t seem to care.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Gourde didn’t seem to care.

Tbf he was an expansion draft victim

 

[SundherDome]

As a Sabres fan, everyday a new Byram/Peterka thread pops up

 

[JTBF81]

Talking about playoffs. Paul has more goals for half the money. Sure RH shot would be nice but who’s available. Google JJ Peterka and see what position he’s listed as lol. What hand does Kucherov shoot with and what position does he play. Put Paul with Hagel and he’d do fine. Got selke votes earlier in his career as well. I just really don’t think there’s that much Cirelli brings that Paul can’t. I don’t think this trade ever happens but I’d be happy if it did

Cirelli is also better in the playoffs overall, .4 ppg to .35, 43 points in 108 to Paul's 14 in 39. You wanted a RH shot, and Tampa already has one in Bjorkstrand for the 2RW role. Hypothetical that "Paul would do fine with Hagel", but very little actual evidence of that. Trade Paul then if he has such value, and Tampa can replace him at 3C with another.actual.3C in Gourde.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Cirelli is also better in the playoffs overall, .4 ppg to .35, 43 points in 108 to Paul's 14 in 39. You wanted a RH shot, and Tampa already has one in Bjorkstrand for the 2RW role. Hypothetical that "Paul would do fine with Hagel", but very little actual evidence of that. Trade Paul then if he has such value, and Tampa can replace him at 3C with another.actual.3C in Gourde.

Trading Paul is unlikely to net us value or cap space to get anyone good. I just think Cirelli is either expendable or not quite established enough of a 2C with plenty of opportunities to do so. His only good offensive year coincided with Hagel putting up 90. I don’t think it’s that crazy to say Paul could score like 5 more goals and double his assist totals playing more minutes and with Hagel.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Trading Paul is unlikely to net us value or cap space to get anyone good. I just think Cirelli is either expendable or not quite established enough of a 2C with plenty of opportunities to do so. His only good offensive year coincided with Hagel putting up 90. I don’t think it’s that crazy to say Paul could score like 5 more goals and double his assist totals playing more minutes and with Hagel.

And for the record, I love Anthony Cirelli, but this team as constructed is not good enough I don’t think. Peterka is a great player now and would get even better with TB.

 

[Americanadian]

Tbf he was an expansion draft victim

Even more reason to not sign the rest of his career away to Tampa.

 

[DFC]

There are reasons to trade Cirelli, but this isn't one of them.

 

[atlanticobserver]

There are reasons to trade Cirelli, but this isn't one of them.

That’s a fair take but I have really struggled to identify a better player of similar value

 

[kcunac]

But wouldn’t Tampa rather have Hronek for Cirelli?

 

[DFC]

That’s a fair take but I have really struggled to identify a better player of similar value

We just don't need to add offense at the sake of defense. We need size and/or grit.

 

[toddkaz]

We just don't need to add offense at the sake of defense. We need size and/or grit.

You missed that with Marchment.