Value of: BUF has Defensemen, picks, and prospects - looking for forwards

[Leafs87]

AJ + something for Risto?

 

[Canuck86]

From Canucks: Pearson, Virtanen, Gaudette, negotiation rights to Toffoli

 

[thewookie1]

Montour will likely want 4x4mil or akin to that.

So far I’ve mostly seen underwhelming offers. Either overpriced under performers or grab bag value prospects for the most part.

I have 0 interest in sending Risto to Toronto as he’s destined to be a thorn in our side after.

I’d want to work on Cirelli over any of Tampa’s 30 something’s making too much for their present production. Johnson is a 1 trick pony and Gourde makes almost twice what he’s worth.

 

[I Like Eich]

What is Montour looking to sign for? If he comes in around 3.5M I would have interest in a swap for Tyler Johnson? Saves us 1.5M in cap and we get an offensive oriented RD to replace Shattenkirk. Not worried about exposing him in the ED either as Johnson would be exposed himself.

Montour makes $3.38m now, so I'd expect he asks for at least 5 and hopes to settle in the 4.4-4.7 range.

I would swap him for Tyler Johnson... but Johnson has the full NTC until 06/2021. Then he submits a 20 team trade list after that.

 

[moegillknee]

Calgary s Monahan would be ideal . But flames would need a center coming back . It would have to be Cozens and 8OA.

 

[Fjordy]

I would do Montour + Samuelsson/Johnson for Domi

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think something like McCann for Montour became way more likely after JR just paid out the ass to get Kapanen.

 

[Brobust]

At this point, both Montour and Miller have negative value. Buffalo doesn't even want to qualify Montour.

 

[Beerz]

Calgary s Monahan would be ideal . But flames would need a center coming back . It would have to be Cozens and 8OA.

Sorry.. you don't get a top 10 pick and a prospect of the caliber of Cozens for a 2C

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

We will keep Howden and they can keep most of that.

Deangelo + Strome + Lindbom + DAL 2020 3rd + BUF 2021 3rd
for
8OA + Laaksonen + BUF 2021 2nd + cap dump Hutton

Pass. Nothing in that package tempts me to give up 8th

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

At this point, both Montour and Miller have negative value. Buffalo doesn't even want to qualify Montour.

Not true at all. Fan made up rumor.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

I think something like McCann for Montour became way more likely after JR just paid out the ass to get Kapanen.

It would be McCann + for Montour.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Montour will likely want 4x4mil or akin to that.

So far I’ve mostly seen underwhelming offers. Either overpriced under performers or grab bag value prospects for the most part.

I have 0 interest in sending Risto to Toronto as he’s destined to be a thorn in our side after.

I’d want to work on Cirelli over any of Tampa’s 30 something’s making too much for their present production. Johnson is a 1 trick pony and Gourde makes almost twice what he’s worth.

I mean no offense, but BUF's D hasn't been all that great outside of Dahlin, so what kind of offers were you expecting?

 

[Empoleon8771]

It would be McCann + for Montour.

No it wouldn't? Why would the Penguins be adding there?

Montour's not as valuable as when he was traded a little over a year ago.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Well, if thats the case....Nick Bjugstad is your man.







Sorry. I couldn't even type that with a straight face.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

At this point, both Montour and Miller have negative value. Buffalo doesn't even want to qualify Montour.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

No it wouldn't? Why would the Penguins be adding there?

Montour's not as valuable as when he was traded a little over a year ago.

True but only because Buffalo played him off hand.

 

[tsujimoto74]

No it wouldn't? Why would the Penguins be adding there?

Montour's not as valuable as when he was traded a little over a year ago.

I'm down for McCann for Montour straight across. I expect Montour to be better once he's out of Buffalo (he was playing on his off side most of last season), so there's definitely a sense in which we're not getting full value for him, but we're too crowded at RD to do anything else with him.

 

[bernmeister]

swap Pekar for Laaksonen and i am on board,
NYR need wings w heft, skill and attitude

"4th round pick Metaj Pekar admits he likes to be the "annoying guy" on the ice that gets under everybody's skin."
"Plays a heavy, gritty style. Strong two-way game with sound defensive play and stick work."
"Pekar sees himself like Brad Marchand and enjoys being an annoyance to players and getting under their skin. He is used on the powerplay and penalty kill, contributing with his range of passing and vision which he uses to set up teammates for good scoring looks. He has a solid accurate shot making him a dual threat off the wing. He is a strong player off the boards, winning battles and helping his team transition, but also being very defensively responsible and mature as a hockey player."

I can live with this, but I'd prefer to add and keep Laaksonen. I recognize the value of intangibles, and your endorsement speaks volumes. But I also think most of our existing F crop will bloom nicely. Thoughts?

 

[SEALBound]

Like Emp, I have suggested McCann for Montour on several occasions and I continue to believe that it works well for both sides.

 

[bernmeister]

Not enough pieces moving. It's a bernmeister proposal after all, you have a reputation to lose!

When you see the rabbit, tell him, silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!

Then spank yourself for not remembering there is only one bernmeister
my reputation remains intact without challenge.

And if nec, I can always pull out a copy of Joan Jett singing about my bad reputation.
And I don't give a damn
oh no no no no no
etc

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

AJ + something for Risto?

Rather target miller tbh.

 

[cwede]

I can live with this, but I'd prefer to add and keep Laaksonen. I recognize the value of intangibles, and your endorsement speaks volumes. But I also think most of our existing F crop will bloom nicely. Thoughts?

I worry the Fs beyond Kakk and Laf are not sure things. ( i am always optimistic. Expecting Barron and Krav and Gauth to progress)
RHD seems in good hands w Trouba, Fox then Lundkvist, Skinner.

But the Finnish RD would be fine, too

 

[teemussalami]

Who would you offer to move up to #4 and DET drops to #8?

Draft your center at #4 (Rossi).

Or what about Mantha for #8?

 

[bernmeister]

I worry the Fs beyond Kakk and Laf are not sure things. ( i am always optimistic. Expecting Barron and Krav and Gauth to progress)
RHD seems in good hands w Trouba, Fox then Lundkvist, Skinner.

But the Finnish RD would be fine, too

Any other aspect aside, while it more positions at F to cover, I think we are/will be good with the guys above + the guys we add.
Hence I think Osc. Laak. is a good long term gamble.
+ he is exp dr exempt and elc x 3