Confirmed Trade: [BUF/EDM] Ryan McLeod and Tyler Tullio for Matt Savoie

[Aashir Mallik]

So Edmonton just grabs a top 10 pick who hasn’t trended down at all since draft for…..Ryan fricking mcleod

Buffalo, fold the franchise

 

[Warh1ppy]

This is an insane return for edmonton. Savoie has all the potential hall marks of a quality point producing centre and for McLeod and Tullio?

That's it??

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

You didn't like his junior game but just about every pro scout did and had him going in #5-15 overall.

The scouts include NHL projection in their assessment so obviously you know more than all of them.

Oilers needed to free up cap and roster space and this deal did just that. Even without McLeod Oilers have Kane,Henrique, Perry, Holloway, Janmark ,Brown and Ryan in their bottom 6

Scouts draft for development potential, not for the player they are at the day of the draft. Savoie has skill that's undeniable, but I guarantee you none of those scouts thought he could play the same style in the NHL and be successful. From what I've heard, he hasn't changed up his game much, which isn't the most encouraging thing (although I haven't watched him this year, so what I've read could be wrong).

 

[Cup or Bust]

There's nothing wrong about it. Mcleod sucks period. All he can do is skate. Doesn't hit, plays just die on his stick. There's a reason he was in the pressbox in the playoffs. Clearing his 2.1m cap hit for even like a 4th rd pick would have been a win, never mind the 9th overall from 2 years ago.

Yeah exactly. Just dumping his cap hit is a win. Can't believe how good McLeod is all of the sudden and I like McLeod.

 

[McXLNC97]

This is not accurate, but whatever. Very fast, good pk, good at the dot. Doesn't like contact. Limited offensive ability.

What's not accurate? Speeds means squat if you don't use it to produce offense, or to use it to cause turnovers.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Soooooo the Oilers give up a bottom six winger set to make $2.1 million, and someone with perhaps a lower ceiling than that for Savoie?

Tullio's absolute peak ceiling is likely what McLeod is right now.

 

[SwedishFire]

Needed for the Sabres Savoie is a bit redundant in Buffalo. His D+2 was fine.

You’ve got Benson Kulich and apparently sabres think higher of Rosen. Not to mention a slew of others. This fills a huge need for the Sabres.

Wich need? Antiphysichal contact with speed?

 

[Xirik]

you either think the Buffalo GM is the biggest idiot in the world. Or they know Savoie isn't that great and hasn't lived up to his hype. If he was so good he wouldn't be in the trade.

 

[LTIR]

McLeod is a 4th liner level player. If he was good enough to play on the third line the Oilers would have kept him.

Not true.
Skinner fell in Oilers lap and we also managed to lock up Henrique and Arvidsson... something in top 9 had to give. Doesn't make McLeod a bad player.

 

[TheNumber4]

There's nothing wrong about it. Mcleod sucks period. All he can do is skate. Doesn't hit, plays just die on his stick. There's a reason he was in the pressbox in the playoffs. Clearing his 2.1m cap hit for even like a 4th rd pick would have been a win, never mind the 9th overall from 2 years ago.

You said he had no hands. That’s wrong. He has slick hands to go along with his elite speed. He also plays a good defensively responsible game. Only some offence though.

No trading him for a 4th would have been one of the dumbest trades ever. Which is why the Oilers sought to find true value and got a Savoie instead.

 

[Zarzh]

Let's hear exactly how Savoie is a bust, sir.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809325357545451654

He was 20 for most of those points.

 

[soothsayer]

The phrase used by one Edmonton media guy to describe McLeod: "If they don't bite as pups, they aren't going to bite as dogs." McLeod was arguably the softest player on the Oilers. So soft that he was allergic to the front of the net even on a rush. His move was to take the puck with speed and, at any sign of pressure from the D in the o-zone, skate around the net. He was so afraid oh physicality that he would just skate the puck around the perimeter, never mind driving the net.

He was not suited for the Oilers anymore. And he may never be a centre. He is without a doubt a serviceable NHL player at this stage though. Hew could be a bigger Cogliano type, which would be great. But I'm shocked at the return.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Woulda thought the Sabres could package some of their young guys for a really solid piece

What do I know.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Wich need? Antiphysichal contact with speed?

A 3C who suppresses events, wins face offs with speed yeah.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

I am far too lazy to read through this thread. So I will add my wonderful two cents here as a non-fan of either team: Jeff Jackson is a wizard. McLeod is a fantastic skater, but frustratingly ineffective so often. Nice player, but definitely expendable for Edmonton. Unless Savoie looks like a total bust -- which is laughable, because he's 20 -- this is (potentially) insane value for Edmonton. If the Oilers end up hiring the assault-enabler instead of King Jackson, holy shit that's ridiculous.

 

[joestevens29]

He rarely gets hit.

Hard to get hit when you goat away from all the tough areas

 

[Cup or Bust]

you either think the Buffalo GM is the biggest idiot in the world. Or they know Savoie isn't that great and hasn't lived up to his hype. If he was so good he wouldn't be in the trade.

The Oilers needed to dump McLeod's salary since after all the chances they gave him he never performed better then a 4th liner.

 

[TheNumber4]

Yeah exactly. Just dumping his cap hit is a win. Can't believe how good McLeod is all of the sudden and I like McLeod.

No just dumping his cap hit would be a chia level stupidity move.

 

[KevinRedkey]

8 months after picking Johnathan Dahlen 42nd overall in 2016, the Sens traded him for Alex Burrows. Everyone thought the value was awful, but Dahlen busted completely.

9 months after picking Filip Forsberg 11th overall in 2011, the Capitals traded him for Martin Erat. Everyone thought the value was awful, and it was.

I think McLeod will be better than Burrows/Erat were at the time, but I do believe Savoie will end up being somewhere between Dahlen and Forsberg. lol

 

[Skolman]

He was 20 for most of those points.

That's a terrible argument, since he was injured for the early parts of the season.

If anything, it's more impressive that he had that kind of season after missing a good chunk early on

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

So Edmonton just grabs a top 10 pick who hasn’t trended down at all since draft for…..Ryan fricking mcleod

Buffalo, fold the franchise

He has kind of stunk on larger stages and dominated junior as 20-year-old. Not saying he doesn't have upside but I wouldn't get carried away with his junior year. If his game dominates in the AHL, then it is clear W for Oilers.

 

[Macheteops]

I like McLeod. Would have liked to keep him. He has third line skill with elite skating. Good PK but super soft

I guess with the cap and the depth at center he was too rich for the 4th line at 2.1. I hope he does well in Buffalo

I don't know much about Savoie but it terms of pure value seems like the Oilers win this trade at this point

 

[Cup or Bust]

No just dumping his cap hit would be a chia level stupidity move.

McLeod is a very ineffective player. On no team with depth would he ever play higher then the 4th line. Not one.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I'm not sure if Buffalo's GM is awful at trades or a lot of Sabres fans were overrating Savoie, but this seems terrible for Buffalo.

 

[DKH]

Edmonton getting ready for Draisaitl going to Chicago or Boston next offseason

Buffalo hosed

McLeod was healthy scratch at times in playoffs

Poor Sabres