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Value of: Buchnevich at 50% retained
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Zynbanejad
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As a Blues fan I'd like to get something closer to what Meier's got 1st+good defensive prospect+2nd. Similar production point wise, less goals but more assists, better defensively, and a much cheaper caphit with the same amount of control (1.5 years before UFA for both).
Reports are saying that there is mutual interest between the Blues and Buchnevich about an extension tho.
Reports are saying that there is mutual interest between the Blues and Buchnevich about an extension tho.
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That's in the Blue's best interest. Guys like Buchnevich are tough to come by. You need to keep him.
KirkAlbuquerque
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actually they are very easy to come by, all it takes is a 4th liner + a 2nd
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stl76
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It’s right here lol
Value of: - Pavel Buchnevich
Buch has one more on his contract following this year. I doubt he’ll want to resign during his prime years on a rebuilding team. He’s a great 2-way player and close to a ppg player. The Blues could use a young dman or a top D prospect. What’s your offer?
Dipsy Doodle
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There's talk about what the Blues would want, but not much in terms of actual offers.It’s right here lol
Value of: - Pavel Buchnevich
Buch has one more on his contract following this year. I doubt he’ll want to resign during his prime years on a rebuilding team. He’s a great 2-way player and close to a ppg player. The Blues could use a young dman or a top D prospect. What’s your offer?forums.hfboards.com
I was told an offer of Pickering and a 1sr would be beat "easily". Haven't seen that yet.
stl76
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Did you actually read the thread?
A Minnesota fan offered 1st + 2nd + Peart. A rags fan offered 1st + Othmann + Zac Jones.
Either one of those easily beats 1st + Pickering IMO.
BleedBlue14
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Why would the Blues eat 50% for this season and next for a return worse than what Horvat got at the deadline as an impending UFA?
I get you’re trying to prove a point. But let’s logically think through this.
Why would the Blues not just play it out for a season and wait until the next deadline to get a similar return?
Hypothetical returns aren’t a great way to gauge a value. There’s no consensus amongst fan bases. You could be speaking to a person who thinks Pickering is a lock to be a top 4 D man or you could be speaking to someone who thinks Pickering won’t have much of an NHL career.
If you’re searching for opinions there’s a lot of pretty thought out opinions in that thread that’s why you’re being pointed that way.
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Wish the ducks were a little closer to making this type of move, as i think hed be a great fit with our forward core....
But i dont think were in a spot to trade our 1st yet.
But i dont think were in a spot to trade our 1st yet.
stl76
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Fair enough, seems like you value Pickering extremely highly. Maybe I am undervaluing him.
Regardless tho, the question worth asking might be how people value Owen Pickering instead of how they value Buchnevich…
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Feel like we need the goal scoring version of a Buchnevich more than anything
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Sure feels like he’s been in St Louis longer than two seasons…
He’s a really good hockey player and he’s not old, overpriced, or taking a beating every night, leading up to his contract expiring.
There’s no reason to trade him. None at all. So I find it hard to believe Armstrong would even consider it.
Next year? They’ll obviously visit the scenario, as he’ll be a pending UFA. Would guess they’d try to resign him though.
“IF” they traded him right now?? He’d grab a nice return. Nothing incredibly crazy, because he’s not a dominant player, but they’d obviously get a 1st and likely 1 good to really good prospect. Nobody’s trading a 1st and an elite level prospect though. He’s not a game changing type player. He’s just a really good player. You want a 1st and an elite prospect, you better be able to take a game over at times.
At the “MOST”, they’d probably get a 1st and a prospect like Carter Mazur or Brennan Othmann. Something like that. A prospect you know will play in the NHL, but don’t know if he’ll be a 40-50 point player, or a 70-80 point player. Or a good, but not great D-prospect. One who’s looking like he’ll play 5-10 years, but not one who will obviously be in someone’s Top 4 for a decade.
That’s if they traded him today. More than likely, next year, they wouldn’t get as much. If he was like Timo, he’d get more. He’s moving towards UFA, not RFA though, and he’ll be 30 as a UFA.. Big difference.
You’d pay a Mazur or Othmann, because you’re looking for a a player like you think they’ll be for today, and don’t wanna wait for them to develop. You’re guaranteeing yourself those two years in the playoffs. Next year he’s basically a rental.
He’s a really good hockey player and he’s not old, overpriced, or taking a beating every night, leading up to his contract expiring.
There’s no reason to trade him. None at all. So I find it hard to believe Armstrong would even consider it.
Next year? They’ll obviously visit the scenario, as he’ll be a pending UFA. Would guess they’d try to resign him though.
“IF” they traded him right now?? He’d grab a nice return. Nothing incredibly crazy, because he’s not a dominant player, but they’d obviously get a 1st and likely 1 good to really good prospect. Nobody’s trading a 1st and an elite level prospect though. He’s not a game changing type player. He’s just a really good player. You want a 1st and an elite prospect, you better be able to take a game over at times.
At the “MOST”, they’d probably get a 1st and a prospect like Carter Mazur or Brennan Othmann. Something like that. A prospect you know will play in the NHL, but don’t know if he’ll be a 40-50 point player, or a 70-80 point player. Or a good, but not great D-prospect. One who’s looking like he’ll play 5-10 years, but not one who will obviously be in someone’s Top 4 for a decade.
That’s if they traded him today. More than likely, next year, they wouldn’t get as much. If he was like Timo, he’d get more. He’s moving towards UFA, not RFA though, and he’ll be 30 as a UFA.. Big difference.
You’d pay a Mazur or Othmann, because you’re looking for a a player like you think they’ll be for today, and don’t wanna wait for them to develop. You’re guaranteeing yourself those two years in the playoffs. Next year he’s basically a rental.
AirGut
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Drury is a f***ing herb,
DRAFTED & DEVELOPED by NYR and this f***ing meathead moves him so he could add Goodrow, Reaves, and Nemeth.
2021 was such a shit year
DRAFTED & DEVELOPED by NYR and this f***ing meathead moves him so he could add Goodrow, Reaves, and Nemeth.
2021 was such a shit year
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If I was convinced the Flyers are a good hockey team, I’d want them to trade for him.
