Barry Trotz about to yell hold my beer!
Bruno Sucks - The Coaching Thread
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Porter Stoutheart
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Were the 4 of you who actually responded in the poll that Bruno would get fired... actually surprised? Ye of too much faith... 
101st_fan
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Trotz evaluated Trotz's decisions and decided Trotz was right about coaching moves.
Armourboy
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Imagine saying that about Lauzon and then losing Fabbro for nothing.
The only reason he won a Cup in Washington is that Ovie and company decided they really wanted it.
This is f***ing brutal. Watched last 2 minutes of regulation and the OT periods last night, and it was amazing how luke schenn looked like a completely different player.
And that's just one of the many, many reasons that every trotz quote I've read makes me re-flabbergasted.
And that's just one of the many, many reasons that every trotz quote I've read makes me re-flabbergasted.
herzausstein
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Dropped to 5th overall
Keeping Bruno
Great day
Keeping Bruno
Great day
Armourboy
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Don't forget wanting to sign Lauzon long term
Bringer of Jollity
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I'd take Lauzon at 1.5 playing 16 minutes a night. Lauzon at 3+ playing 20? Gross. Though we re-signed Englund already, so don't actually see the point of either on second thought.
I actually like Lauzon better than some but that’s not the issue.
When the GM focuses on Englund and Lauzon signings while insinuating that Stamkos is to blame for the bad year, it is more than scary; its ……(fill in the blanks).
Bringer of Jollity
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Are there other roster moves he should be making right now, in the middle of the playoffs, aside from working on re-signing depth guys he wants to re-sign?
We only have like...3 players to re-sign as it is.
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It's delusional. He really has no idea how a current NHL team is constructed or coached.
Armourboy
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If Lauzon is an identity piece then I guess the team does fit that identity, sucking.
herzausstein
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Lauzon is fine as a 3rd pairing dman. But retaining him at any price above 2M is a misallocation of resources
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No but hyping up Lauzon while blaming the failures on the presence of Stamkos is something. Trotz just saying "We don't really know what went wrong" would have been alot better of a response than his "I think the team was star struck by our big free agent signing and that's why they sucked". Then to double down and call Brunette a good coach that communicates with the players well. It now appears that Trotz is running this team with a blindfold on and not actually watching what is going on. And honestly that explains alot of his moves this past season.Are there other roster moves he should be making right now, in the middle of the playoffs, aside from working on re-signing depth guys he wants to re-sign?
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This franchise is, simply put, screwed.
What Trotz was saying is that he is completely incapable of being objective and thus making rational decisions and following an actual plan. Being defensive of your decisions, even when the evidence is there in black and white that they were terrible decisions, and throwing spaghetti at the wall and calling it a concept of a plan will go exactly nowhere.
And to top it off, he commits the biggest mistake a "leader" can: blaming the outcome of his planning and direction on the very people he needed/needs to execute successfully. What a joke. It will be a sure thing that guys with any sense of self-respect will be asking to be traded.
Hopefully, ownership steps in at some point and cuts the rope. Poile's parting gift was to tie a management anchor to our necks and toss us over the gunwale.
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Team with Roman Josi is so star struck by new acquisition they forget how to hockey.
I agree... would've been better if he just said "no clue"
I agree... would've been better if he just said "no clue"
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I would state it more as "Lauzon COULD BE fine as a 3rd pairing dman"... but with conditions attached.
One of those conditions would be that he play a more composed game, stop jumping up and pinching. He has ZERO offensive talent. Several goalies outscored him this season. What could he be thinking he's going to contribute offensively? And what coach would let him keep doing that? It serves no purpose except to leave us exposed defensively EVERY SINGLE TIME he does it. And then there's the hits. Chasing hits just to get a record or whatever likewise serves no useful purpose. Sometimes a hit helps. But again, he puts himself out of position and exposes us defensively a lot of times when he does it too. He has to pick his spots better. Ask Hal Gill to give him some lessons maybe. Then he COULD BE fine as a 3rd pairing D.
The other condition would be that we had a more settled lineup and weren't in the process of bringing in younger players with more upside. But as it is, we have Stastney and Wilsby who won't be waiver exempt next season, and we have Molendyk coming. Maybe even if we're really lucky, Chistyakov at the end of next season. Those are all young players who skate very well in a modern NHL style, and they need ice time and opportunity to develop NOW while our team is rebuilding. We need to invest in those players who have better upside given where the franchise is in its current competitive downturn. If you start to lose or underdevelop those young assets in order to keep rolling out an "ok 3rd pair" veteran like Lauzon, then you've lost sight of the goal.
So those conditions to me add up to: get rid of Lauzon ASAP. The guy may be "ok" in the right situation or with the right utilization and tutoring, but that's definitely not OUR situation right now!
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This really comes down to Trotz throwing spaghetti at the wall to set a direction. In his own evaluation of his own plan, he believes in himself and has decided he knows best and made the correct decisions. The spaghetti failed and needs to improve.
We've discussed it before but, he needs to commit to a rebuild (like Poile showed him how to do with the total house cleaning) or he needs to buy more free agents for his Cup run next year (which is insane and clearly delusional). The "culture" thing is BS. The identity of this team is (scoreboard!) losers. He emphasized this "threading the needle" approach in the presser of trying to do everything, everywhere, all at the same time. Outside of one extended points streak late 2 seasons ago, it has been a provable failure.
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It certainly seems like the organization sees some fundamental flaw or limitation with Karl Taylor. Successive GMs have had the opportunity to consider him, but went with NHL-experience instead. If/when Brunette does get fired next season, I imagine it will go similarly... maybe promote Todd Richards from within to be interim, then lure Lane Lambert away from Toronto after the season.
Armourboy
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If Lambert is the next hire I might just take a break until they finally fire Trotz and everyone else.
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One crazy thing is that Brunette is now the 9th longest tenured head coach in the NHL. It's a what have you done for me lately league and the reality is its much easier to change a coach than it is a roster. It seems that as a former coach Trotz really resents that and to some extent I think he has a point, but also I don't see what Bruno has done to deserve the extra leash.
