kinda shocked Pegula and Botterill want to keep Kane there, tbth, DON'T NEED HEADACHES, like that, we've seen that share(Seguin/Kessel)....
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Yes, but those two are great players. Kane is not even a good one dimensional player.
GloveSave1
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I'd take Kane...if it stops DS from getting caught up in the AVEs king's ransom.
We've spent a decade trying to find a young defenseman with a certified top-pair NHL defensive ceiling...it would really grind my gears to trade him now...the AVEs stuff scares me because I know they are going to hold out for Carlo...
Offensively talented young defensemen are a dime a dozen...a kid that knows how to to play in his own zone and can do it is a real gem these days.
We've spent a decade trying to find a young defenseman with a certified top-pair NHL defensive ceiling...it would really grind my gears to trade him now...the AVEs stuff scares me because I know they are going to hold out for Carlo...
Offensively talented young defensemen are a dime a dozen...a kid that knows how to to play in his own zone and can do it is a real gem these days.
Sheppy
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I don't think I could come up with a better analogy
And knowing how you like guys that can throw down, you condemning Kane should speak volumes.
I do love guys who could pound the **** out of you, but Kane is just so stupid. The brains on that guy, let me tell ya. If Kane wasn't a complete chud of a human being I would love him on this team and i think he'd be a great fit. He's a decently skilled guy with a bit of a mean streak, what's not to like other than the fact that he has as much brains as a baked potato.
Carlo had a great year but I could look ok next to Chara. In my mind Carlo is available for the right return. Give Chara some credit for Carlos stock value.
KrejciMVP
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Could care less if Kane is a nice guy. Go score a goal and get in a fight. Jimmy Hayes was a nice guy
GloryDaze4877
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It's not about him being nice or not. It's about what sort of effect he could have in the dressing room and whether his production offsets that.
I would pass.
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Sheppy
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I'm not saying Hayes wasn't a nice guy, but he spent 90% of the season with his palms up complaining about something. Guy's a whiner. Go ahead, Jimbo, blame the ref that you haven't scored since Glenn Murray did.
GloveSave1
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We've seen plenty of people crash and burn with Chara, as smart and solid as Big Z is, he has a limited zone...and you better be in the right spot with him...or you're toast...you really gotta be cognizant playing with Z, because if a guy gets even a quarter step on him or gets him flat footed or even turned...a snail could torch him...
But anyway, yeah, there was certainly a leveling out with Carlo...but I saw everything I needed to see and more to be stoked after what was asked of him at his age in his rookie year. We've seen the foundation...gotta think there's lots of growth room.
If they move this guy I'm gonna retch.
Sheppy
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If they can somehow gameplan for Chara to never, ever pinch i'd be a happy camper. Can't count how many times he came down the wing and ended up getting burned. If he can work on that, he's going to be a rock. I thought he played great at the end of the season, it's just some bonehead moves really, really cost him.
GloveSave1
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Exactly. And you can see it in slow motion...you're like "nooooo..." as the guy slowly pulls around Chara like he's standing still...because he pretty-much is...heh...
I like McAvoy with Z. He needs some make-up wheels. I'd like to see Krug/Carlo pair 1, Chara/McAvoy pair 2.
This HAS GOT to be the year Z's mins come down at least a bit.
You could say Chara had his best year last year. Mentoring while remaining a top 2 Dman is something! He's an organizational beast!
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Playing on the first pairing and playing a good number of minutes will wear even a veteran down to some extent over the course of an NHL season. Carlo started the season at 19 yrs of age and will only get stronger. I think his decrease in effectiveness in the second half of the season was due mainly to being young. He played 82 games and averaged 20+ minutes a game on the top pairing. As he fills out his large frame and gains strength and stamina he will be fine. Kid is going to be a stud in a couple years.
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I think there's also a case that the Bruins could stand a bit more "obnoxiousness." Some would certainly say Marchand covers that and then some...but I'm not sure...as long as Kane isn't a issue in the room, which is a valid concern, I bet he'd work out on the ice. Just a hunch.
But whatever...like people said...tough to call a BUF/BOS move.
But whatever...like people said...tough to call a BUF/BOS move.
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Coach Parker
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28 goals last year with a slow start as well. Lots of people even admit they hated Marchand but look what patience and respecting the on-ice play gets you.
People here would turn down Patrick Kane as well.
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Kane's a really tough player. Bruins fans would adore him, I'd definitely take a shot. Spooner+.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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if edmonton and draisailt break down and if chiarelli/neely can be civil.. would anyone here make this deal?
krejci (2.25 mill retained)
krug
chara
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draisailt
sekerea
we would be taking on around 3 mill in extra cap hit going forward the next few years... downgrading a bit from krug to sekera.. cutting ties with chara... it would hurt a bit but i see top lines with draisailt/pastrnak and bergeron/marchand being something we could win a cup with
i think krejci/chara might wave to play with chiarelli/mcdavid. i think this trade makes edmonton the favorite to win the cup this year... their d would be scary good adding krug/chara to klefbom/larson russell/nurse
our d would be ok i think next year when the kids are more seasoned... mcavoy/carlo/miller are strong down the right but sekera would be our only proven left side guy this year and hes hurt
so my trade hurts us this year but i am a huge draisdailt fan and id want to put in a bid on him if edmonton cant get him signed
krejci (2.25 mill retained)
krug
chara
for
draisailt
sekerea
we would be taking on around 3 mill in extra cap hit going forward the next few years... downgrading a bit from krug to sekera.. cutting ties with chara... it would hurt a bit but i see top lines with draisailt/pastrnak and bergeron/marchand being something we could win a cup with
i think krejci/chara might wave to play with chiarelli/mcdavid. i think this trade makes edmonton the favorite to win the cup this year... their d would be scary good adding krug/chara to klefbom/larson russell/nurse
our d would be ok i think next year when the kids are more seasoned... mcavoy/carlo/miller are strong down the right but sekera would be our only proven left side guy this year and hes hurt
so my trade hurts us this year but i am a huge draisdailt fan and id want to put in a bid on him if edmonton cant get him signed
GloryDaze4877
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No, you could not say that Chara had his best year last year, not even close.
He did have a good year, a bounce-back year, and despite your claims that he's overrated, I believe that Carlo played a large part in that. This year I'm hoping McAvoy makes him look good.
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GloryDaze4877
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And how did the BUF GM respond? Better yet, how did you get his contact info?
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