Post-Game Talk: Bruins Lose yet again.... 1-0

Jean_Jacket41

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22 SOG in a playoff game is simply not acceptable.

I think the thing that hurts is if our forwards could pull their heads out of their ***** we could win the series despite the injuries. We've lost every game by 1 goal and two in OT. We only gave up one goal last night. If Bergeron/Marchand/Pastrnak/Backes could give us just a little bit more we'd win. If they could give us their best we'd have already won.

I don't mind losing (yes I do) but I'm pissed it's our big guns letting us down

People have to choose. With Clode, people said that outshoting the other team meant squat because they were all point shot and few scoring chances.

Yesterday, they got plenty of prime-A scoring chances in the first. Got tougher to get some in the 2nd and they got almost none after Ott took the lead and fell to an even ticker shell.

In the end, I don't care what the shot count indicate. Quality shots/scoring chances are all that matter. Yesterday, they got more than Ott but could have gotten more.
 

PB37

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Just curious, the hit on Pyatt by Miller, what do you guys think of it?

Should have been interference and the refs missed the call. I don't think it was dirty or subject to discipline, similar to the Ryan elbow on Nash in G3.
 

Greek_physique

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Should have been interference and the refs missed the call. I don't think it was dirty or subject to discipline, similar to the Ryan elbow on Nash in G3.

That's one play I don't understand in the NHL today.

IMO it wasn't any different then McQuaid taking out Larsson from Buffalo...both players are going hard into the boards and both expect the other player to challenge them; but they are hitting/making contact before either guy touches the puck.

Yet you have other plays like the Backes hit where he gets called for interference because the Ottawa guy let the puck go by him and Backes just finished his check.
 

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Doesn't matter how long it was, Bruins scored because of the call. We weren't handed the game at all. The officiating was a joke that game on both sides.

Go ahead and try to justify to yourself that the Sens earned that game, every NHL person that Pierre McGuire spoke to thought it was a terrible call. That was the defining moment of this series. You are wasting your time on this B's board trying to convince us that you weren't handed the game. I live in Ottawa and I have heard hardly anybody who doesn't think it wasn't a crappy call, but as Sens fans they were happy to take the gift. Trust me, if that had been reversed there would have been outrage in Ottawa.
 

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Sens fan, but this series is not confidence inspiring, by any means. The #system, injuries to key players, are playing a big role. Ottawa or Boston could play ten times and one team can win ten in a row. So we aren't all sitting there thinking " we got this sin the bag!". I know people ***** about the 1-3-1, but that is the NHL these days, it is not a unique system. I think key to any team is each player doing what they are supposed to do. When mistakes are made, ***** happens.

Not feeling confident, but obviously would rather be up 3-1 than down 3-1. I thought Marchand played a heck of a game, two golden chances early ( I think the 2nd breakaway he had his tongue out), and in the final minute. From my side of it, he has been dangerous and busting his butt. I think the soldiers are all doing their thing.

If I were a Bruins fan, and generally I don't hate them, I would be concerned with Backes, Bergeron and Chara. Krejci shouldn't even be out there because he is clearly barely 50%. That guys is a Sens killer. Backes is overrated and must do something other than trying to rankle Phaneuf...and only Phaneuf it seems. Bergeron has a lot of miles on him, but still has been so-so. Chara is clearly showing his age, and I loved him as a Sen, but he is logging big, weary minutes so it isn't on him per se, but the injuries are a huge issue to Ottawa's benefit. I don't think having the injured players back would change much, no disrespect, it means players would have different assignments. When Karlsson was out , things changed but they were able to win an important game or two.

Just thought you would like to hear thoughts from the other side.

Just curious, the hit on Pyatt by Miller, what do you guys think of it?

You don't think having our #2, 3, and 4 D-men out wouldn't change things much ? You lost all credibility with that statement.
 

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I want Jake DeBrusk called up. Insert him in the lineup. He's fast. He goes to the net. He had a good season in Prov. He'd help us. I'd rather see him getting a chance than Shaller up in the 2nd line. No offense to Tim, he's been a fine 4th liner, but that's all he is. Give us an offensive jolt. We need something.
 

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I want Jake DeBrusk called up. Insert him in the lineup. He's fast. He goes to the net. He had a good season in Prov. He'd help us. I'd rather see him getting a chance than Shaller up in the 2nd line. No offense to Tim, he's been a fine 4th liner, but that's all he is. Give us an offensive jolt. We need something.

Yeah Schaller is a GREAT..... fourth liner. Has no business being anywhere else in the lineup.
 

coladin

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It was a crappy call, but I think I have figured out why the refs do what they do. It's like they have a rolodex in their head. They see all the ****, and I remember in quite a few scrums Nash punching after the whistle. You know the refs are always yapping, probably warning him to cut it out... then bam, they finally get him with it.

Same with Phaneuf, the guy slashes everything that moves, even his own teammates lol, point is as you guys know and you can hear it, they warn them over and over and over and then, bam, a slash, kind of typical in the playoffs and then a 5 on 3.

Burrows? trips someone as he is falling, thing is the refs see all the little crap he does and sticks it to him. Refs are like elephants and have long memories. You know why Chara didn't get the call on a n obvious trip? The refs let the blatant interference go just seconds before. The legendary even up call. Yup, this league sucks because you cannot recognize what the hell you are watching. "They are letting them play" is essentially " They are letting them cheat!". I don't understand it, never will. But an offside is as consistent from preseason to Game 7 of the Finals? yeah, lots of sense.

Bottom line is, it is refereeing with a vengeance, and it sucks.
 

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You'd think after three years, our leaders especially would be ready to go...

Granted, Krejci was out for half the series, but he had 0 goals in the 2014 playoffs. He's reverted to doing behind-the-back passes without looking, which is a clear indicator that he either just doesn't give a **** anymore, or just doesn't know what to do.

Bergeron was really bad in the Canadiens series in 2014. Invisible. He's been good enough defensively this series, but defense is not the issue we're having, even with our #2, #3, and #4 dmen out. He's being dominated on faceoffs by Pageau.

Marchand has been good for two series since 2011, against the Red Wings and Penguins. Collective one loss in those two series. He has not done a single thing since game 1. Him and Pasta are trying to do everything again, and when they do that, they're complete liabilities. After establishing yourself as a clutch player in 2011, and establishing yourself as a top forward in the league... Where the hell is he?

Chara is slow. Yeah, I'm channeling my inner Einstein with that, but he just looks HORRENDOUS. His decision making, everything. He's just been brutal.

Cassidy is just simply being outcoached. Boucher is walking all over him. It's reflecting on him and our players. We can't beat this gimmick. He's a very young coach but it's really tough to see him just being demoralized like this. Wake-up call.

I was pretty confident about this team. They finished pretty strong, and I knew that after finished 3rd in the Atlantic, if our big guns showed up, we had a chance to really make some noise. We're not contenders, but I thought the conference finals was pretty realistic based on having the Sens/Rangers/Habs in our way. Hell, I thought we could even give the Caps/Pens a scare. But the fact that a 19 year old with 4 NHL games played is far and away our best and most consistent player this series, after 2.5 years of mediocrity... Man. They better wake the **** up.
 

coladin

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You don't think having our #2, 3, and 4 D-men out wouldn't change things much ? You lost all credibility with that statement.

When Karlsson was out, should Ottawa lose forever and ever amen? The style changes and adjustments are made. A lot of people thought after Game 2 with no Krug, Carlo and McQuaid it would be a cakewalk, but it isn't. Coaches will simplify things and Boston is still hanging around, all very tight one goal games.

Of course it changes things, but it's not like if they were healthy Ottawa would be swept. There are many factors that go into winning games. If Marchand buries his chances, if the refs don't make that call, etc...
 

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The B's just aren't that skilled up front to make the most of what few chances they get. The Sens are quite happy to sit in their 1-3-1 and capitalize on the few chances they get. They're getting more finish from their forwards and unreal goaltending. They seem to be getting the breaks on top of that, but it's been pretty close hockey. I guess I'd just like to see if the B's could activate their D from the get go and attempt to draw the Sens into a game of pond hockey. It seems like the B's are just falling into their trap so to speak. We need to dictate the terms to have a chance in game five.
 

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Go ahead and try to justify to yourself that the Sens earned that game, every NHL person that Pierre McGuire spoke to thought it was a terrible call. That was the defining moment of this series. You are wasting your time on this B's board trying to convince us that you weren't handed the game. I live in Ottawa and I have heard hardly anybody who doesn't think it wasn't a crappy call, but as Sens fans they were happy to take the gift. Trust me, if that had been reversed there would have been outrage in Ottawa.

I know the call in OT was ******. Everyone in Ottawa knows that. But it doesn't even get to overtime without earlier ****** calls.
 

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Bergeron was outstanding yesterday.
I don't know what more he could have done.


Scored a goal or two.. and maybe not miss the net.

That's one thing I saw last night that could've been improved. B's had a ton of decent chances but kept missing the net. Not just Bergy though.
 

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The Bruins just need to take this one game at a time, one period at a time and one shift at a time, no reason they can't string 3 consecutive wins together. It's time for the Bruins to win a series after being down 3-1.
 

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Scored a goal or two.. and maybe not miss the net.

That's one thing I saw last night that could've been improved. B's had a ton of decent chances but kept missing the net. Not just Bergy though.

I thought Kevin Pillar was Superman? Jesus did you see how good Andy was, in a zone. Not that there was a whole lotta room out there.
 

Jord

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- snip - But the fact that a 19 year old with 4 NHL games played is far and away our best and most consistent player this series....

McAvoy last night.. Jeez. He was incredible. I'm hoping he can have a game like that tomorrow night. He's helping tremendously. He deserves a spot on the roster.
 

Sevren

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It was a crappy call, but I think I have figured out why the refs do what they do. It's like they have a rolodex in their head. They see all the ****, and I remember in quite a few scrums Nash punching after the whistle. You know the refs are always yapping, probably warning him to cut it out... then bam, they finally get him with it.

Same with Phaneuf, the guy slashes everything that moves, even his own teammates lol, point is as you guys know and you can hear it, they warn them over and over and over and then, bam, a slash, kind of typical in the playoffs and then a 5 on 3.

Burrows? trips someone as he is falling, thing is the refs see all the little crap he does and sticks it to him. Refs are like elephants and have long memories. You know why Chara didn't get the call on a n obvious trip? The refs let the blatant interference go just seconds before. The legendary even up call. Yup, this league sucks because you cannot recognize what the hell you are watching. "They are letting them play" is essentially " They are letting them cheat!". I don't understand it, never will. But an offside is as consistent from preseason to Game 7 of the Finals? yeah, lots of sense.

Bottom line is, it is refereeing with a vengeance, and it sucks.

Good post, and I mostly agree with you. Except that I cannot see how a ref could have something against Nash. Chara yes, Marchand yes, Burrows yes, Phaneuf yes. But Riley Nash? :laugh:
 

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Sure injuries are a factor, but no one has stepped up offensively.

The mighty Washington Capitals could be done in their first round series were it not for huge contributions from a very unlikely source, Tom Wilson.

David Pastrnak? Look what Jake Guentzel is doing for Pittsburgh.

Still in a foul mood after these losses, so I am venting a bit. But still, all teams encounter injuries and traps.
 

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McAvoy last night.. Jeez. He was incredible. I'm hoping he can have a game like that tomorrow night. He's helping tremendously. He deserves a spot on the roster.

I tell you what, I'd love to see Grezlyck with McAvoy. They know how to play with each other. I know it wouldn't happen, but damn that would be a fun, fast, d pairing.
 

TaroTsujimoto

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Maybe we should load up with that Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak line until we are hopefully able to get that all-important first goal.
 

Jord

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I tell you what, I'd love to see Grezlyck with McAvoy. They know how to play with each other. I know it wouldn't happen, but damn that would be a fun, fast, d pairing.

We can dream.. And dreams can come true. :)
 

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thought last nights game was extremely uneventful, terrible passing when getting the puck deep was a better option. Chara looked awful last night. spooner is useless.
 

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We can dream.. And dreams can come true. :)

I can tell you that Matt's ___ on facebook was not very happy Tommy got to play over him :laugh:

___ made good points about how Matt and Charlie are a great pairing together and would help out. But alas~


I'd rather see Grizzy over Liles. But
 

mjhfb

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Actually I feel Chara has been exceeding my expectations. Yes he makes tired mistakes, but at 40 years old he should not be playing almost 30 minutes every game against top lines. Even if they get out of this round, he'll burn out unless that changes.
 

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