Proposal: Bruins - Blue Jackets

[Maurice of Orange]

Boston Acquires: LW Max Domi (25% retained) and LD Dean Kukan


Columbus Acquires: LW Jake DeBrusk, prospect C Trevor Kuntar, a 2nd round pick in 2022 and 5th round pick in 2023.

Boston adds Domi as a scorer and Kukan as a depth 3rd pairing defenseman if injuries occur. Both Domi and Kukan are UFA’s at season end so Boston does take on the risk of losing both players after a playoff run.

Columbus adds RFA DeBrusk which they could qualify if he returns to form or choose to let walk and a C prospect as well as a 2nd round and 5th round pick in different years.

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[stevo61]

dont really see the incentive for Columbus. I think they could do better than another meh winger who will want too much. Would rather get a 1st than what is being offered here

 

[weaponomega]

Pass from the Bruins. Domi doesnt address any need. And the difference between debrusk and Domi isn't a 2nd and a prospect.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Pass from the Bruins. Domi doesnt address any need. And the difference between debrusk and Domi isn't a 2nd and a prospect.

If the Bruins are going to make a playoff run, the Bruins could use some secondary scoring from a Domi type player and a little grit wouldn’t hurt either, the Bruins also lost Zboril to injury for the season so Kukan would be a suitable replacement for the bottom of Boston’s defense.

Kukan can also play LD or RD and has some size but sometimes doesn’t use his frame to his fullest extent but is reliable depth option nonetheless.

DeBrusk hasn’t been scoring at the pace that he was a few seasons ago and doesn’t currently hold anywhere near the same value as Domi, since it’s been known DeBrusk wants out of Boston it further deceased his value.

DeBrusk could turn his game around with a fresh start but it remains to be seen if an acquiring team would commit to handing Jake a qualifying offer in the offseason.

Trevor Kuntar isn’t a throw away prospect by any means, Boston drafted Kuntar in the 3rd round 2020 and is in his 2nd season with Boston College and has held his own at that level. Kuntar was also drafted as a center, a position that Columbus is currently weak at in depth.

If some are expecting a 1st for Domi, as is right now it mostly likely wouldn’t happen unless Domi is on maximum retention, even then some teams may scoff at paying a 1st round pick for Domi giving that his scoring isn’t where it was when Domi was with Montreal and Domi’s diabetes situation which could also be seen as a risk for an acquiring team.

 

[Dumais]

If the Bruins are going to make a playoff run, the Bruins could use some secondary scoring from a Domi type player and a little grit wouldn’t hurt either, the Bruins also lost Zboril to injury for the season so Kukan would be a suitable replacement for the bottom of Boston’s defense.

Kukan can also play LD or RD and has some size but sometimes doesn’t use his frame to his fullest extent but is reliable depth option nonetheless.

DeBrusk hasn’t been scoring at the pace that he was a few seasons ago and doesn’t currently hold anywhere near the same value as Domi, since it’s been known DeBrusk wants out of Boston it further deceased his value.

DeBrusk could turn his game around with a fresh start but it remains to be seen if an acquiring team would commit to handing Jake a qualifying offer in the offseason.

Trevor Kuntar isn’t a throw away prospect by any means, Boston drafted Kuntar in the 3rd round 2020 and is in his 2nd season with Boston College and has held his own at that level. Kuntar was also drafted as a center, a position that Columbus is currently weak at in depth.

If some are expecting a 1st for Domi, as is right now it mostly likely wouldn’t happen unless Domi is on maximum retention, even then some teams may scoff at paying a 1st round pick for Domi giving that his scoring isn’t where it was when Domi was with Montreal and Domi’s diabetes situation which could also be seen as a risk for an acquiring team.

From a playoff contender looking for a rental. Which you could consider a early 2nd (considering they are a playoff contender) I don't know much about the players you are offering, but it looks like Debrusk is a 20/20 guy over an 82 game season at best case, Kuntar is a .63 PPG in the USHL over 148 games, which makes me think 3rd/4th liner at best case. And like the 1st CBJ are looking for, the Bruins 2nd is more like a early 3rd and the 5th round pick is what it is.

I get where you are coming from. But making a package for a guy you, yourself says "isn't worth a 1st rounder" probably isn't sexy enough for fans of other teams to bite on. CBJ already have what you are offering, not really helpful to us by adding more of the same to the system.

EDIT: And we need Kukan, dont have many dmen who can play the right side ATM

 

[Maurice of Orange]

From a playoff contender looking for a rental. Which you could consider a early 2nd (considering they are a playoff contender) I don't know much about the players you are offering, but it looks like Debrusk is a 20/20 guy over an 82 game season at best case, Kuntar is a .63 PPG in the USHL over 148 games, which makes me think 3rd/4th liner at best case. And like the 1st CBJ are looking for, the Bruins 2nd is more like a early 3rd and the 5th round pick is what it is.

I get where you are coming from. But making a package for a guy you, yourself says "isn't worth a 1st rounder" probably isn't sexy enough for fans of other teams to bite on. CBJ already have what you are offering, not really helpful to us by adding more of the same to the system.

EDIT: And we need Kukan, dont have many dmen who can play the right side ATM

I know both Domi and Kukan are UFA’s at seasons end. The question I have is their any word from the Jackets front office that they might plan on resigning Domi or Kukan before the trade deadline or does it look like Domi or even Kukan might be traded to recoup picks and or prospects.

Domi’s play this season it would seem on the surface that he is having a resurgent season but digging deeper into Domi his numbers along with his usage would suggest that Max could be being sheltered with his minutes and his offensive usage, maybe it’s by design to pump up his numbers to garner a higher draft pick, that’s kinda a red flag to me and another thing is his possession quality which is down even though Domi’s offensive zone starts at even strength are higher than they have ever been this season by a wide margin in Domi’s career, that’s red flag number two.

I’m not trying to discredit Domi because I believe the way Columbus has played Max has actually helped boost Domi’s confidence and Domi could be a good scorer in a secondary scoring role on a team that’s trying to contend for a playoff spot.

The Jackets are hanging in the standings but I don’t believe the defense and the younger players will be able to keep pace in the standings, so I’m of the option that Columbus should try to gain assets for their UFA’s that they don’t plan on resigning at or before the deadline.

Im not a fan of either team so there is no bias involved on my part but I did make a proposal that I’m trying to sell equally to each side just for discussion, not purposely trying to tear down or discredit any player or team.

 

[Dumais]

I understand, just think for the jackets to sell off two useful pieces it will take something worth while for them. A really good prospect or pick. A pick somewhere in the 30-40 range for Domi might get Jarmo (or fans) to bite. Adding Kukan to the deal right now, is just asking Jarmo and the fans to give up on the season. And keep in mind, we haven't had our best scorer (Laine) in the lineup for over a month and he should be coming back any day now.

As for if they will be re-signed, maybe? Depends how they do and how much they want. Maybe Jarmo waits a couple more months, see where the team is at the trade deadline and keeps them around for the fans if they are in the playoff hunt and lets them walk to FA. But I don't think he trades them now for that package, no reason to do so.

 

[majormajor]

The Jackets will be selling for straight futures. No disrespect to Debrusk, but the Jackets won't have any interest in adding players. They need the space in the lineup. Picks and prospects only.

Domi’s play this season it would seem on the surface that he is having a resurgent season but digging deeper into Domi his numbers along with his usage would suggest that Max could be being sheltered with his minutes and his offensive usage, maybe it’s by design to pump up his numbers to garner a higher draft pick, that’s kinda a red flag to me and another thing is his possession quality which is down even though Domi’s offensive zone starts at even strength are higher than they have ever been this season by a wide margin in Domi’s career, that’s red flag number two.

He's a pure offensive player, can't play defense, that's why he gets all offensive zone starts. Not that complicated.

even then some teams may scoff at paying a 1st round pick for Domi giving that his scoring isn’t where it was when Domi was with Montreal

15 pts in 18 games is a 68 pt pace, basically the same as the 72 pt pace he put up in his best season. And it's all in limited 5v5 minutes, he hasn't had a shot on the top PP unit.

For the record I can see teams shying away from spending a 1st on Domi because of the inconsistency he's shown before and because of his poor playoff showing in Montreal, but his offensive ability is getting understated on the boards. The guy breathes offense.

 

[Hookslide]

Boston Acquires: LW Max Domi (25% retained) and LD Dean Kukan


Columbus Acquires: LW Jake DeBrusk, prospect C Trevor Kuntar, a 2nd round pick in 2022 and 5th round pick in 2023.

Boston adds Domi as a scorer and Kukan as a depth 3rd pairing defenseman if injuries occur. Both Domi and Kukan are UFA’s at season end so Boston does take on the risk of losing both players after a playoff run.

Columbus adds RFA DeBrusk which they could qualify if he returns to form or choose to let walk and a C prospect as well as a 2nd round and 5th round pick in different years.

Bruins should run fast and far away from this..........

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Pass.

 

[weinsink]

Garbage

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Bruins should run fast and far away from this..........

I could see why Bruins fans would scoff at giving up some draft capital and a prospect but as the poster Major stated Domi has 15 pts in 18 games and is on a 68 point pace.

Domi would be an asset to the Bruins secondary scoring if Max was at 3LW in Boston that line would also probably see easier matchups, which intern could open up scoring from other lines.

Boston is 28th in goals for so they could use a scorer in the bottom 6. Domi’s value could go up before the deadline if he stays on his current scoring pace.

 

[majormajor]

Domi would be an asset to the Bruins secondary scoring if Max was at 3LW in Boston that line would also probably see easier matchups, which intern could open up scoring from other lines.

Forget secondary scoring, per minute Domi has outscored every Bruin. He has the same 5v5 points as Pastrnak and Bergeron, in barely half the minutes. His 15 even strength points would lead the team.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Forget secondary scoring, per minute Domi has outscored every Bruin. He has the same 5v5 points as Pastrnak and Bergeron, in barely half the minutes. His 15 even strength points would lead the team.

That’s true but I doubt Boston would displace Marchand and Hall from 1LW and 2LW. If Domi can produce as a center then maybe he can be a 2C with Boston and either move Coyle to 2RW or 3C.

 

[majormajor]

That’s true but I doubt Boston would displace Marchand and Hall from 1LW and 2LW. If Domi can produce as a center then maybe he can be a 2C with Boston and either move Coyle to 2RW or 3C.

Domi can produce at any forward position, the issue is that his defense is harder to put up with at center. He's been at RW just as often as LW.

 

[Jovavic]

If he's not resigning and this is the best Jarmo can get then sure

 

[Maurice of Orange]

If he's not resigning and this is the best Jarmo can get then sure

If Domi keeps up the pace he has been scoring at its not out of the possibility that Domi could return a 1st but as it stands now it might be on the boardline of a 1st-2nd depending on Jarmo’s asking price and if Domi has a retainer on salary or not.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I could see why Bruins fans would scoff at giving up some draft capital and a prospect but as the poster Major stated Domi has 15 pts in 18 games and is on a 68 point pace.

Domi would be an asset to the Bruins secondary scoring if Max was at 3LW in Boston that line would also probably see easier matchups, which intern could open up scoring from other lines.

Boston is 28th in goals for so they could use a scorer in the bottom 6. Domi’s value could go up before the deadline if he stays on his current scoring pace.

Bruins shouldn't be buying rentals in my opinion.

Especially one performing so we'll, feels like we are buying high.

If Domi was still consistently used as a C, I'd be much more apt to consider it.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Bruins shouldn't be buying rentals in my opinion.

Especially one performing so we'll, feels like we are buying high.

If Domi was still consistently used as a C, I'd be much more apt to consider it.

Its kinda a fine line for the Bruins right now, if they feel like they can contend this year for a cup then they may make a deal for a rental or two, but if they struggle to get the last wildcard spot then they might steer clear of rentals.

The next 6 weeks should paint a clearer picture as to what direction the B’s front office may go.

In the meantime Domi’s value could go up making the price even higher for which the Bruins would probably not pay.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Forget secondary scoring, per minute Domi has outscored every Bruin. He has the same 5v5 points as Pastrnak and Bergeron, in barely half the minutes. His 15 even strength points would lead the team.

Right, because his 18 games with a shooting pct about 3x higher than his career average totally means he's going to continue to put up those pts for the remainder of the year.

CBJ should definitely resign him since he's as good a pt scorer as Pastrnak and Bergeron.

 

[Hookslide]

Right, because his 18 games with a shooting pct about 3x higher than his career average totally means he's going to continue to put up those pts for the remainder of the year.

CBJ should definitely resign him since he's as good a pt scorer as Pastrnak and Bergeron.

I love sarcasm............good job my friend

 

[majormajor]

Right, because his 18 games with a shooting pct about 3x higher than his career average totally means he's going to continue to put up those pts for the remainder of the year.

CBJ should definitely resign him since he's as good a pt scorer as Pastrnak and Bergeron.

Well that touched a button...

For the record, Domi's scoring pace doesn't imply that he's going to displace anyone on the Bruins top line, no one actually believes that. What it actually suggests is that he won't be had for a 2nd rounder. This isn't the Sabres, and there's no NMC.

Frankly the Jackets should re-sign him. It's not that easy to find a guy who creates like Domi.

 

[Hookslide]

As a Blue Jackets you should enjoy his success this year, and if you decide too move him good luck and get as much as you can for him..........As a Bruins fan he does not move the needle that is not meant to be critical of his play but the Bruins need a defense man , a center or maybe right wing and some physicality...............

 

[Jerkbait]

Boston Acquires: LW Max Domi (25% retained) and LD Dean Kukan


Columbus Acquires: LW Jake DeBrusk, prospect C Trevor Kuntar, a 2nd round pick in 2022 and 5th round pick in 2023.

Boston adds Domi as a scorer and Kukan as a depth 3rd pairing defenseman if injuries occur. Both Domi and Kukan are UFA’s at season end so Boston does take on the risk of losing both players after a playoff run.

Columbus adds RFA DeBrusk which they could qualify if he returns to form or choose to let walk and a C prospect as well as a 2nd round and 5th round pick in different years.

What makes you think bruins are even making the playoffs? Who will fall out for them to make it? Tampa ? Toronto? Florida? Washington? Carolina? Pittsburgh? Boston only hope is the Rangers fall ( unlikely) or Detroit tapers off. At best they are an 8th seed and 2 teams only a point behind.

 

[The Jones Zone]

CBJ has a logjam of young mediocre Forwards

If Domi is moved I'd prefer is be for the best pick Jarmo can get