Brooks pens a masterpiece

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Absolutely nothing would be different with Buch on this playoff roster right now vs say Vatrano. what happened last night still would have happened.

Buch was as guilty as anyone of the over-passing BS and has done nothing for the Blues in their series. they are being carried by their cup winning veterans like O'Reilly/Perron/Rob Thomas

this team is in the same position as the 2010-11 team was, albeit with a lot more offensive talent. that year they also got beat by an experienced team in the first round. they then had 3 trips to at least the conference finals in the following 4 seasons. the organization now has about 3x the amount of prospects in the pipeline as they did back then. there is no reason to panic.

Reminds me of 06. Magical regular season with record breaking offense and PP only to suffer injuries before and in the playoffs and get trucked by an experienced team everyone left for dead.
 
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this team is in the same position as the 2010-11 team was, albeit with a lot more offensive talent. that year they also got beat by an experienced team in the first round. they then had 3 trips to at least the conference finals in the following 4 seasons. the organization now has about 3x the amount of prospects in the pipeline as they did back then. there is no reason to panic.
That team had a better coach
 
Two things.

1) This team is not a Cup contender as currently constructed. Both the fan base and the front office have to stop fooling themselves. If absolutely nothing else, the defensive core is just not ready yet as half of it is still in the AHL.

2) Everyone needs to take a real hard look at the over-23 year olds on this roster and decide which of them can be moved, and then act on it, because running this back and trying again next year and trying to talk yourself into another deadline where you pay exorbitant prices to rent to fix your very real problems is a terrible idea. We have way too much money tied up in non-performers and it's hurting our ability to ice a real contender in the future.

I've said it again and again, Kreider is not your alpha lead dog when you are playing against elite teams. Too many people bought into the narrative that just because he's been here a long time, he's some unmovable, un-demotable saint who should be captain. No the f*** he shouldn't. He's a career underperformer who until age 30 had never broken 30 goals before despite having the talent to be a year-in, year-out 70 point player. Plagued with inconsistencies. And I know everyone loved his 50 goal outburst this season but it's an outlier. It's not who he is. We are now seeing the inconsistency again.

Mika sadly has way too many down periods as well. He's either on fire and scoring 2 points per game or he's nothing. And if he's not on fire for your playoffs then he's useless. Unfortunately we are now in a box where he is our #1 center for forever and we can't get out of that, so we have to fix the roster in other ways.

Something has to give. You are going to need to find value in a trade and unless Kakko or Lafreniere are bringing back MacKinnon (they aren't) then you are going to have to explore winning a trade of a vet for an up and coming forward. They are going to have to seek out the Zibanejad deal again or they are going to be in trouble moving forward, they are going to be locked into a core of 30 year olds who can't win (Kreider, Zibanejad, Panarin) but a core of 22 year olds who have no center.

Too many people on here are too attached to the veterans. I remember the push back I used to get when I suggested moving Tony f'n DeAngelo after his 53 point season in 2019-2020. I said, you can probably get a young prospect center for this 24 year old who is coming off a 15 goal, 38 assist shortened campaign. NO NO NO some posters said, who do we have who can replace his output? I said Adam Fox. No! They said. Adam Fox isn't proven. The very next year Fox wins the Norris.

Time to look ahead and stop looking in the past. We are now at the very same juncture with Trouba. I'm not suggesting Trouba is going to get himself booted off the team for fighting and being a jerk but the scenario is the same - stop burying our heads in the sand saying Trouba is irreplaceable because Schneider isn't proven. Schneider is coming for Trouba's role fast, just like Fox was coming for DeAngelo's role. We need to be PROACTIVE with moving some of these vets for value before they have none.

I'm not saying Trouba has to be the one to go. But we need to probably make a hard decision about one of the higher paid players to give us some flexibility to go get another difference making impact young forward/center. And I don't see how Panarin or Zibanejad are getting moved. That leaves Trouba and Kreider.

I'm asking Kreider and Zibanejad for no trade lists. Can the Rangers deal Zibanejad before his new contract kicks in July 1st? That would be a first. I'm ok with trading him for 70 cents on the dollar.

Kreider's value will never be higher and his style of play should age well, but despite the stats, he's looking very ordinary and going through the motions out there. Unacceptable for a 6'3" 225 player in the playoffs.

Copp, Panarin and Fox get passes from me as I believe they're playing through significant injuries.

I qualify Blais and do everything I can to bring Motte back. These guys were acquired for this time of year and they're missing through injury. Same with Goodrow. Unfortunate. But you need to have that "next man up" mentality and the onus needs to be on the veterans of the team to step up and get the job done. Pittsburgh's veterans are getting the job done. Ours aren't.
Kreider IS playing to his paygrade. Unfortunately, he is not a one man show -- most beside McDavid are not.

Zib is disgraceful to this pt this series.

Everyone recall I wanted to give him a full 10 per but only 4 yrs and no/min trade protections. No, no no, we had to go all in instead of selling him high as a rental. Fact he was good $ at 8 given we were gonna have to pony up 9ish for Fox was besides the pt.

No effin discipline by Drury and everybody on this board who gave me grief, now start to have your eyes opened.

Kreider is worth his 6+, incl this series. Bread [injured?] Zib are clearly not and Trouba is a mixed bag of briefly good and stretches of very very bad.

Kreid I would be open to yr or 2 at a time renewing for less $ when his deal is done.
The other 3 need to be moved for youth.

And w/less than zero cap room that will force us to deal Lindgren and get creative to the max, it will get worse before it gets better, unless Trouba/Zib/Bread consider to waive their nmc
 
You know how many brooks nonsense i went out of the way to read this season
ZERO!
You will be a better fan not paying any attention to this hack
 
Full rebuild is necessary. Sadly, given the contracts we’ve handed out and our Panglossian desperation to believe we are somehow contenders, we won’t get anything for high yielding assets in the cap era. Time to shed Z, Panarin and Strome, at the very least.

Too often do we see our team on a hot streak and forget how strong our competition is. Toronto, Carolina, Edmonton, Colorado, Florida — and maybe a few others — are far better positioned to compete for a Cup over the next five years than we are.

Let’s stop delaying the inevitable.
 
Full rebuild is necessary. Sadly, given the contracts we’ve handed out and our Panglossian desperation to believe we are somehow contenders, we won’t get anything for high yielding assets in the cap era. Time to shed Z, Panarin and Strome, at the very least.

Too often do we see our team on a hot streak and forget how strong our competition is. Toronto, Carolina, Edmonton, Colorado, Florida — and maybe a few others — are far better positioned to compete for a Cup over the next five years than we are.

Let’s stop delaying the inevitable.
We still haven't completely finished the rebuild we're already on
 
Everyone on the team is u22 is never a strategy that works.
No but there isn’t necessarily a need to hang onto all four big contracts either.

Maybe, just maybe he will be as good as that, but coming for his role fast?

I mean... he's looked better than Rob O'Gara did, but if Schneider has looked like he could replace Trouba soon you must be watching different players.
I think it is you who hasn’t been watching.
 
Has Gallant changed the Rangers' game for the playoffs? I don't remember Zibs shadowing Crosby in the regular season. Let him just go out there and play his game. Then the Pens would be having Crosby shadowing Zibs.
 
Full rebuild is necessary. Sadly, given the contracts we’ve handed out and our Panglossian desperation to believe we are somehow contenders, we won’t get anything for high yielding assets in the cap era. Time to shed Z, Panarin and Strome, at the very least.

Too often do we see our team on a hot streak and forget how strong our competition is. Toronto, Carolina, Edmonton, Colorado, Florida — and maybe a few others — are far better positioned to compete for a Cup over the next five years than we are.

Let’s stop delaying the inevitable.
I wouldn't go that far. If Drury will only heed bern about youth, not throw away Krav, and we get lucky on Othmann, then that w/Chytil, Kakko can be enuf of a youth component to a solid F core w/Vatrano + possibly Copp IF add properly to that. I mean I just named 6 guys. Cap will force us to take another year to not rush Blais back, but he's another, and Goodrow is only slightly overpaid. That's a full top 6!
Bread we need to enjoy now but gotta jettison once his deal is up we can't extend him at 8 or so, and cap reality will not reward us for giving him any $.
Zib is worth 8 in a vacuum, even a hair more, but not w/full nmc.
Trouba I famously wanted to deal over a yr ago when that was possible.
We made our beds and now we have to live in them for at least another 2 years.

But I don't think it's most of the whole team.
It's like a third of the Fs, mostly vets, and /Lindy a cap casualty, half the D
But that is workable if Drury is smart enuf to go there.
 
Everyone on the team is u22 is never a strategy that works.
1. never say never, it is an absolute
2. As a consistent and general rule, youth WILL be served, w/few exceptions
3. Cap is dictating a chunk of this. You HAVE TO build via draft. Can no longer just buy best talent. Youth needed to enable cap compliance.
4. Quality depth is huge. Math says more people of high quality requires more youth, because vets, ither by seniority or otherwise, commands higher salaries.

ps I get yr point, but "u22" is arbitrary.
 
Everything was going fine till Shesty started letting in everything during the first period of game 1 then the team panicked. Then Georgie settled them down again in the second period and we tied it up 4-4. 1 OT goal in game 1 and 3rd period goal in game 3 has been the difference in this series so far.
 
I think it’s on coaching staff. They should plant working system. It starts with forechecking. When penguins have the puck behind their net, One forward stands in front of the net between the circles. Other two forwards are nowhere to be found. The penguins move the puck along the boards. Our One of other two forwards must be pressuring the puck carrier in their zone. Meanwhile the penguins make it extremely difficult for the rangers to cross red line and dump. Turnover and high danger scoring chances are created.
Secondly, the penguins cross neutral zone almost uncontested and our D give up the blue line immediately and backs off. Even one pens player could get into offensive zone while there were two or three rangers around him. Once the puck is in Rangers zone, second, third forwards enter the zone quickly and it’s super easy to check the Rangers D after the puck is dumped into corners. The Rangers D who got the puck is already chased from both sides. So he would try to dump the puck back by boards rather then skating with it. but one of the Pens D is already pinching and waiting around circles. He gets the puck and throws at the net. These plays are very tiring for Shesterkin and difficult for the skaters to win one on one battles. Suddenly the NYR players look slow and weak.
 
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I mean it is very easy to enter offensive blue line and dump, chase, retrieve the puck and throw at the net for the Penguins while the Rangers can not even cross the red line. It takes a lot of time to chase down the puck and put pressure one the puck when dumping the puck from red line. Obviously it is even harder to get the ppuck back end do some circling. Fewer SOG and PP show it
 
Full rebuild is necessary. Sadly, given the contracts we’ve handed out and our Panglossian desperation to believe we are somehow contenders, we won’t get anything for high yielding assets in the cap era. Time to shed Z, Panarin and Strome, at the very least.

Too often do we see our team on a hot streak and forget how strong our competition is. Toronto, Carolina, Edmonton, Colorado, Florida — and maybe a few others — are far better positioned to compete for a Cup over the next five years than we are.

Let’s stop delaying the inevitable.
You're going to be disappointed considering that we're still rebuilding.
Strome walking away this offseason is one thing but you'll have to be mighty creative to trade Z and Panarin. First couple of contracts Drury will likely target to move will be Kreider and Trouba once their LMNCs kick in 23-24.
 
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