Value of: Brodin+Coyle to your team

s3antana5757

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Well, we would then have the highest scoring D corps in the league...

Of course the GA's against might get ugly.

It's not an insulting offer, but what would Gardiner cost to sign?

One reason among many that i treasure Brodin is that he can play both sides. Gives a lot of flexibility, should a trade that can't be refused for Spurge/ Dumba be offered

Hey 57special. We had some great conversations during the off-season and leading up to the expansion draft about Brodin and the Bruins.

Alot has happened since then, but I've always really like Brodin. The two teams I don't think match up that well, but if you had to deal with just the B's, would kind of package would you be looking for? Either Brodin or Brodin+Coyle.
 
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Hey 57special. We had some great conversations during the off-season and leading up to the expansion draft about Brodin and the Bruins.

Alot has happened since then, but I've always really like Brodin. The two teams I don't think match up that well, but if you had to deal with just the B's, would kind of package would you be looking for? Either Brodin or Brodin+Coyle.

Not the guy you were asking for, but I'm a Wild and Bruins fan. I could see a deal based around Heinen+2nd for Brodin or Heinen+Frederic+small add for Brodin+Coyle
 

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Hey 57special. We had some great conversations during the off-season and leading up to the expansion draft about Brodin and the Bruins.

Alot has happened since then, but I've always really like Brodin. The two teams I don't think match up that well, but if you had to deal with just the B's, would kind of package would you be looking for? Either Brodin or Brodin+Coyle.
Not the guy you were asking for, but I'm a Wild and Bruins fan. I could see a deal based around Heinen+2nd for Brodin or Heinen+Frederic+small add for Brodin+Coyle

I am not on the trade Brodin train, at all, unless he is packaged for something really special, or something potentially special. Suter's return to health is not a sure thing, and I think it's madness to consider trading Brodin till we know that Suter is back, and fully healthy.

I like Heinen in the few times I've seen him, but he isn't special, to me. Debrusk also looks good...but I think that they are more of the same of what we have. LW is not really a position of need.

I would consider trading one of Coyle or Nino, though I think their value is low right now, so again I think it's dumb to sell low on them.

If i'm trading Brodin and Coyle, it would be for a high end player or very high pick, and BOS doesn't have that to offer.

If I had to ball park value Brodin it would be Debrusk+ Frederic for Brodin. Still don't think it would be smart for the Wild. Anointing Nick Seeler as your #1 LHD to start next season is not wise. Podgornik obviously has a different take on things..
 
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I'd love to see Brodin in Ottawa if the Sens don't win the lottery.
Assuming that EK is gone, Brodin would be perfect to babysit Chabot, who might end up being a wonderful Dman. Not a big fan of trading a 24yo dman who can play both sides, though. Especially when the rear LHD situation is all of a sudden thin, with Scandella traded and Suter seriously injured.
 

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I am not on the trade Brodin train, at all, unless he is packaged for something really special, or something potentially special. Suter's return to health is not a sure thing, and I think it's madness to consider trading Brodin till we know that Suter is back, and fully healthy.

I like Heinen in the few times I've seen him, but he isn't special, to me. Debrusk also looks good...but I think that they are more of the same of what we have. LW is not really a position of need.

I would consider trading one of Coyle or Nino, though I think their value is low right now, so again I think it's dumb to sell low on them.

If i'm trading Brodin and Coyle, it would be for a high end player or very high pick, and BOS doesn't have that to offer.

If I had to ball park value Brodin it would be Debrusk+ Frederic for Brodin. Still don't think it would be smart for the Wild. Anointing Nick Seeler as your #1 LHD to start next season is not wise. Podgornik obviously has a different take on things..

I don’t think either of you are necessarily wrong. I would think Boston would entertain Heinen with the emergence of Donato. But Brodin also knocks Gryz from the lineup which is not ideal. Again, I don’t think it’s a great match, but interesting to see your perspective.
 

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Id absolutely love Coyle on the Oilers. No idea what it would take to make that happen but yea he’s underrated big time imo
 

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I don’t think either of you are necessarily wrong. I would think Boston would entertain Heinen with the emergence of Donato. But Brodin also knocks Gryz from the lineup which is not ideal. Again, I don’t think it’s a great match, but interesting to see your perspective.
BTW, I was pretty impressed by that Dman with too many consonants. Miller, too. It's amazing how the B's have rebounded from 2-3 years ago...the depth is impressive.
 

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BTW, I was pretty impressed by that Dman with too many consonants. Miller, too. It's amazing how the B's have rebounded from 2-3 years ago...the depth is impressive.

It’s definitely been great to see. A real testament to the coaching and development. At some point though, they have to start consolidating assets. They have all 6 defenseman coming back next year, and a 7th guy in McQ that would be a healthy scratch if everyone is healthy. Plus they have 2 first round picks (Zboril, Urho) and 1 second (Lauzon) that can’t play in the AHL forever. It’s a similar story with the forwards.
 

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Brodin for RNH sounds like a good move for us. Not sure what Oilers fans think about it though.
 

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I think Brodin, Coyle and Ennis for O'Reilly and McCabe is the closest we've come on that one.

I wouldn't make that trade from Buffalo's side. I like Brodin and all, but I don't see him as ever being anything but a solid top 4 player. And this creates a hole in Buffalo's top 6 that nobody can replace anytime soon. On top of it, Buffalo takes yet another bad contract to make the trade? I'd be a hard no on this idea. But then again, I'd be more willing to trade Reinhart in a package for that type of deal so what do I know?
 

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Brodin for RNH sounds like a good move for us. Not sure what Oilers fans think about it though.
No, that isn't a good move. RNH is more expensive than Brodin, and is not a #1C, and I would argue a MOR #2C, at best. He is also not anywhere near any of our present C's when it comes to physicality, and, while a good skater, is nothing special. Don't see him getting anything but beaten up by teams like WPG. I would be appalled if the Wild made that deal.
 
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No, that isn't a good move. RNH is more expensive than Brodin, and is not a #1C, and I would argue a MOR #2C, at best. He is also not anywhere near any of our present C's when it comes to physicality, and, while a good skater, is nothing special. Don't see him getting anything but beaten up by teams like WPG. I would be appalled if the Wild made that deal.
I think your analysis of RNH is spot on. That's still probably a fair deal for Brodin.
 
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I wouldn't make that trade from Buffalo's side. I like Brodin and all, but I don't see him as ever being anything but a solid top 4 player. And this creates a hole in Buffalo's top 6 that nobody can replace anytime soon. On top of it, Buffalo takes yet another bad contract to make the trade? I'd be a hard no on this idea. But then again, I'd be more willing to trade Reinhart in a package for that type of deal so what do I know?
Admittedly, it might make less sense now that Buffalo's drawn 1st overall. The idea was kind of predicated on the Sabres moving O'Reilly, and I get the feeling that everyone is going to cool on that idea over the weeks leading up to the draft.

I've semi-advocated bringing Reinhart to Minnesota, but his foot speed worries me on a team that's struggled with team speed this year. Granlund's skating wasn't great a few years ago either, so it may be a solvable problem. Either way, similar to RNH, I don't think I'd want to pay the price he'd require.
 
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Brodin for RNH sounds like a good move for us. Not sure what Oilers fans think about it though.

If you’d proposed that last summer it might have been well received, but RNH was lights out with McDavid and they really complemented each other well.

RNH is probably not available for Brodin. Hindsight being 20/20 and the RNH/Dumba rumblings from last year don’t look so bad for us now...
 

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If you’d proposed that last summer it might have been well received, but RNH was lights out with McDavid and they really complemented each other well.

RNH is probably not available for Brodin. Hindsight being 20/20 and the RNH/Dumba rumblings from last year don’t look so bad for us now...
Turning centers into wingers might be a reason why you didn't make the playoffs.
 

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What's coyles upside. I always thought he could be a 55 to 65 pt center consistently . But he's getting to his prime and has been really up and down.
 

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