Value of: Brock Nelson

[Rabid Ranger]

One of the most underrated players in the league and would fetch a significant return if the Isles were idiotic enough to move him. He's be the ideal #2 on a large number of teams including several contenders.

 

[StewieP19]

Nelson isn't the guy you trade when you're trying to compete.

In Colorado He can fit very well and it fix the Colorado top 9
Landeskog Mackinnon Rantanen
Nichushkin Nelson Lehkonen
Rodrigues Newhook Compher

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Nelson is more valuable to NYI than what he would get on the market.

So is Bailey, Beauvillier, Martin, Clutterbuck, Czikas...



Nelson's a stud and has gotten better at everything with each passing year (unlike all of the above who have declined mightily)

 

[miscs75]

So is Bailey, Beauvillier, Martin, Clutterbuck, Czikas...



Nelson's a stud and has gotten better at everything with each passing year (unlike all of the above who have declined mightily)

This post just put Clutterbuck back on the IR with another injury.

 

[McJedi]

Boeser is nowhere near the player Nelson is. Hoglander doesnt have much value. I think you are really underrating Nelson. Besides Barzal he is the only isles forward that is good.

Realistically he wont be moved until the offseason if at all. At that point there will be a few teams looking for a good 2nd line center that only has a couple years of term attached.

I don’t think the market is big for Nelson. And because of that, I don’t think he’s going to return a lot. Sellers need buyers.

Vancouver is a bad example. No way they’d want Nelson. Wouldn’t make sense for them.

NYI have to find a buyer that has a similar contract or two to send back to the NYI. It’s not a futures only deal.

You’re telling me why Nelson is good. I’m not debating that. We can agree he’s good. I’m saying the reality of the situation with the flat cap is that the buyer pool is artificially small and having to swap contracts makes this a difficult trade to pull off. That’s why I don’t think he’s got a lot of value. It’s not about his play.

 

[LeapOnOver]

yet the same player was immoveable in the off-season unless a sweeter was include.

yet somehow things have suddenly changed

think again.

This is fake news. There were zero reports of him being shopped. Nobody knows what you are talking about...

 

[Thechozen1]

If he were truly available, he’d be my primary target for the JETS. A trade to Winnipeg would only be a 2 hour drive to where he grew up. Make it happen Chevy!!!

What are the Islanders needs?

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

What are the Islanders needs?

 

[miscs75]

If he were truly available, he’d be my primary target for the JETS. A trade to Winnipeg would only be a 2 hour drive to where he grew up. Make it happen Chevy!!!

What are the Islanders needs?

The only actual need the Islanders have is in the goal scoring category. Preferably someone (a winger) who’s around the age of Barzal and shoots the puck (on net) consistently. Defensively they’re a mess because it’s still plug and play without Pelech.

 

[Habs Halifax]

One of the most underrated players in the league and would fetch a significant return if the Isles were idiotic enough to move him. He's be the ideal #2 on a large number of teams including several contenders.

Agreed. Kind of flying under the radar like Danault did. Nelson is one of the best 200' centers in the game. Doesn't get enough credit for what he does shift after shift.

The only actual need the Islanders have is in the goal scoring category. Preferably someone (a winger) who’s around the age of Barzal and shoots the puck (on net) consistently. Defensively they’re a mess because it’s still plug and play without Pelech.

I think the Islanders need two gems on wing. Two guys on the half walls that have good one timers and can snip. PP improvements and also players with size.... not more smaller types

Tarasenko could be a good fit.

 

[miscs75]

Agreed. Kind of flying under the radar like Danault did. Nelson is one of the best 200' centers in the game. Doesn't get enough credit for what he does shift after shift.



I think the Islanders need two gems on wing. Two guys on the half walls that have good one timers and can snip. PP improvements and also players with size.... not more smaller types

Tarasenko could be a good fit.

Pulock if he hit the net would fit that for the PP but his accuracy makes Fulton Reed look like Ray Bourque during the ASG going 4/4. Tarasenko would be a good fit but not for the insanity of trade offers I’ve seen. Unless he’s coming with an extension/trade and sign, I’m not trading anything more then picks and mediocre prospects. High end prospects being traded just to watch him walk after the playoffs would be a disaster.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Pulock if he hit the net would fit that for the PP but his accuracy makes Fulton Reed look like Ray Bourque during the ASG going 4/4. Tarasenko would be a good fit but not for the insanity of trade offers I’ve seen. Unless he’s coming with an extension/trade and sign, I’m not trading anything more then picks and mediocre prospects. High end prospects being traded just to watch him walk after the playoffs would be a disaster.

Not sure what the Islanders do but adding guys on the side walls who can shoot the puck and score could change things. Improve the PP and the Islanders become a very dangerous team.

 

[miscs75]

Not sure what the Islanders do but adding guys on the side walls who can shoot the puck and score could change things. Improve the PP and the Islanders become a very dangerous team.

The PP has been a major issue since the last season of Tavares/Doug Weight coaching. For some reason there’s no consistency eventhough the players haven’t honestly changed. They just need to start firing pucks and if the opposition gets wounded in the process, oh well. The league won’t stop games for injures anyways.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The PP has been a major issue since the last season of Tavares/Doug Weight coaching. For some reason there’s no consistency eventhough the players haven’t honestly changed. They just need to start firing pucks and if the opposition gets wounded in the process, oh well. The league won’t stop games for injures anyways.

If your PP was more top 10 vs bottom 10, the Islanders would not be a bubble team and they would be in the playoffs.

Islanders are top 10 at 5/5 goals for and also top 10 in goals against at 5/5. A better PP and they are a very dangerous team to play against if the get in the playoffs.

 

[miscs75]

If your PP was more top 10 vs bottom 10, the Islanders would not be a bubble team and they would be in the playoffs.

Islanders are top 10 at 5/5 goals for and also top 10 in goals against at 5/5. A better PP and they are a very dangerous team to play against if the get in the playoffs.

I’m not arguing that one bit. The PP has been a major issue for a few seasons and the additions haven’t helped change that. With the PP, they would have had a stronger shot to beat Tampa in the ECF the 2nd year.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I’m not arguing that one bit. The PP has been a major issue for a few seasons and the additions haven’t helped change that. With the PP, they would have had a stronger shot to beat Tampa in the ECF the 2nd year.

I have a good friend who is a Islanders fan here on the east coast of Canada. We talked about this exact thing a few days ago. Prior to last season, Islanders were back/back in the final 4 right? They have rebounded this season but hard to say how aggressive they get at the deadline to address the flaws. Until then, they are in no mans land.

 

[miscs75]

I have a good friend who is an Islanders fan here on the east coast of Canada. We talked about this exact thing a few days ago. Prior to last season, Islanders were back/back in the final 4 right? They have rebounded this season but hard to say how aggressive they get at the deadline to address the flaws. Until then, they are in no mans land.

Lou won’t get agressive unless the deal is right. Both Palmieri and JGP were top players among those available at the TDL each respective year and were signed over the summer. The only way I see him making a move is if he can get the incoming player to commit long term at the right price. Trading for a pure rental just won’t happen since the bottom 6 doesn’t need anymore of a logjam.
As for the current roster, there’s a lot of guys slumping right now and Pelech being out doesn’t help one bit. It looks like Barzal is back and Holmstrom too which means Johnston and Martin won’t be playing together.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lou won’t get agressive unless the deal is right. Both Palmieri and JGP were top players among those available at the TDL each respective year and were signed over the summer. The only way I see him making a move is if he can get the incoming player to commit long term at the right price. Trading for a pure rental just won’t happen since the bottom 6 doesn’t need anymore of a logjam.
As for the current roster, there’s a lot of guys slumping right now and Pelech being out doesn’t help one bit. It looks like Barzal is back and Holmstrom too which means Johnston and Martin won’t be playing together.

Pelech injury is a big loss. He's underrated

 

[seafoam]

In Colorado He can fit very well and it fix the Colorado top 9
Landeskog Mackinnon Rantanen
Nichushkin Nelson Lehkonen
Rodrigues Newhook Compher

I agree, but the question then becomes what does COL have of value that would entice NYI to move him?

 

[StewieP19]

I agree, but the question then becomes what does COL have of value that would entice NYI to move him?

Islanders need a LD who can move the puck fast. Girard can be an option.
Islanders will have Aatu Raty who can replace Nelson next year. A guy like Girard will made will put the right LD in the right chair. A win win trade

 

[WangMustGo]

Islanders need a LD who can move the puck fast. Girard can be an option.
Islanders will have Aatu Raty who can replace Nelson next year. A guy like Girard will made will put the right LD in the right chair. A win win trade

Thats not a win win from the isles. Raty is not replacing Nelson next season, just like Newhook hasnt been able to replace Kadri. If the isles are trading Nelson it will be for picks/prospects.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

What do you think the Isles could get for Nelson if they are squarely out of the playoff picture come the deadline?
31 years old with 2 years left after this one at a modest 6m cap hit.

He is worth more than that to us. He stays.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Are you retaining 50%? Teams don’t have the cap soace to take the additional year of his contract.

nothing really has changed since the off-season

Lol that's complete nonsense.