Value of: Brock Nelson
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Think his market would be really solid. Cap wise would be a tough fit in season probably though
Djp
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Are you retaining 50%? Teams don’t have the cap soace to take the additional year of his contract.
nothing really has changed since the off-season
nothing really has changed since the off-season
Sparksrus3
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Retain ..OMFG.
Sheriff Woody is the man .He is worth every penny of that contract and if he was traded he would bring great value with the extra year on the deal . As for cap space in future seasons he would be a keeper and other players would be moved out if needed . Of course you don’t see him play . Your comment gives that away ..
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Djp
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yet the same player was immoveable in the off-season unless a sweeter was include.
yet somehow things have suddenly changed
think again.
Pure Slaughter Value
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How about actually thinking first, instead of spouting the same rhetoric over and over again like a broken record?
Since when was Brock Nelson available in the offseason?
JJ18Sniper
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Confusing him with Bailey? Nelson is worth every bit of his cap hit as a 2C.
ManofSteel55
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Retention would not be requested because he isn't worth it, but because there aren't many teams out there with 6M cap space right now. I would love to have him, but we need more space to add anyone, let alone adding a 6M player at a position that isn't our weakest spot. Don't take it as a shot on the player, just of the current state of affairs when it comes to trading mid to high price point players.
Pure Slaughter Value
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I would think the Isles would be willing to take back a soon to be UFA's ugly cap hit, allowing the buyer to deal with any cap issues over the course of the summer and FA period.
That being said, I don't know why we'd want to trade our only other offensive threat than Barzal.
Beauvillier and Bailey would be available but they'd both require retention and/or significant sweeteners.
We're basically screwed til the 2023-2024 offseason as far as the contracts to Bailey, Beauvillier, Clutterbuck, and Martin go. Trading Nelson as a stop-gap solution would be a seriously awful thing to do, especially since we have a lot of cap space this year and next (assuming Lou doesn't offer Mayfield a contract).
I don't even think I'd want to go down the rabbit hole of who will be available as a UFA in July of 2024 since a lot of the players of the type the Isles need will be resigned...
ManofSteel55
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I agree with everything you said. Some teams don't have that much in junk expiring deals though, ha ha.
I think it would be foolish to trade him.
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leeroggy
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This might be the single worst comment year to date here
The Devilish Buffoon
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Brock Nelson scored nearly 40 goals last year, paced for 42, and is on pace for 30 goals this year. He's also a big, strong C.
You shouldn't talk with such conviction about things you have no clue about.
Nelson would garner a very large return. 1st + 2nd at the very least.
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Above average. He moves well and has good speed for a big guy
I suspect he’d fetch a 2nd round pick in trade.
Not many teams are buyers with his remaining term and the lack of future cap space available. Not a knock on the player but league wide, trades are so hard to make for players with +$5mm AAVs with years of term remaining on their deal.
TDL has been tame and lame the past few seasons, this TDL will be lame too. As will the trade market this summer when the cap goes up just another $1mm.
Not many teams are buyers with his remaining term and the lack of future cap space available. Not a knock on the player but league wide, trades are so hard to make for players with +$5mm AAVs with years of term remaining on their deal.
TDL has been tame and lame the past few seasons, this TDL will be lame too. As will the trade market this summer when the cap goes up just another $1mm.
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Agreed with the TDL being lame the past couple of seasons.
Totally disagree that Nelson would only fetch a 2nd. He is good for 30 goals and plays a very good 2 way game. In all likelihood the Isles would also take a contract back for him. He easily fetches a 1st+
Nelson is one of the most underrated players in the league. I dont think the isles will be moving him until the offseason at the earliest, and it only happens if the Isles decide to rebuild.
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Nelson is more valuable to NYI than what he would get on the market.
ZachaFlockaFlame
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It's obvious people don't watch the Islanders at all, granted their play style might have turned people off with Trotz but Brock Nelson is an absolute stud. He'd be the best rental besides Horvat and yes even over Patrick Kane considering Nelson is still signed for a few more years + plays center + very good goal scorer recently.
So then the value is mostly based on how bad that contract going to the NYI. Let’s say it’s Lucic. Well Lucic is an expiring deal so it’s not that bad. So I still don’t think Nelson fetches much unless the NYI take on an actual bad contract with term, like Boeser.
So maybe Boeser + 2023 2nd (will be a high 2nd) + Hoglander for Nelson?
It's not worth trading him for less than a first +, and NYI won't retain on a 3 year deal without incentive.
Boeser is nowhere near the player Nelson is. Hoglander doesnt have much value. I think you are really underrating Nelson. Besides Barzal he is the only isles forward that is good.
Realistically he wont be moved until the offseason if at all. At that point there will be a few teams looking for a good 2nd line center that only has a couple years of term attached.
I knew you would be in here claiming that it’s impossible to trade players without a sweetener but I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here, Brock wasn’t available this past offseason.
Anyway, since the last time this came up (“who even needs a second line center?” “cant trade vets without a sweetener”) Brock has put up close to a PPG season and is trending towards 30 goals a year after potting 37. Defensively responsible, solid in the playoffs. Don’t have cap space? Send contracts back to make it work. I’m not even for trading Nelson until it’s very clear Raty can run at 2C but this is stupid. If he hit the market this off-season he’d get something like 7 mil for 5 years, and here people are acting like he has negative value. Dumb.
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