Brisson confirms that EP40 dealt with injury which prevented him from Off-season Training.

[theguardianII]

What reported knee injury in January 2024? Can't find anything about a reported knee injury then, just some Dhali guesses. Remember Dhali was also the media guy saying there was no issues between EP and JTM, then suddenly there were. Dhali was also the guy that said MIller had "emotional issues" and now it is leaking out that there was an issue between Tocchet and Miller, slowly leaking out little bits here and there from sources that are his friends.

There has been so much misdirection of information fed to the public by owned media marketers.
Demko's injuries for instance. It is well known he has had double hip surgeries years ago.
Symptoms of a hip injury are everything the Canucks have stated he has had.
BUT
Never do they say it is hip related, the word hip is never connected to his injury, even an unheard of Pop muscle injury, but low and behold, McDavid had his detached and never reattached, no surgery with apparently no issues but that bit about McDavid's is never mentioned.
When there is one word that is avoided fanatically it should make that word more noticeable.
There are "procedures" on a hip that take, guess what, the same time for recovery that Demko took.
Schneider had this happen, look at his time lines. There has been progress in that area.

Has anyone ever had a knee injury where there isn't a limp or other outward noticeable change in normal gait or performance?
Demko injures his knee but can skate normally to the bench, lift his leg and pad over the bench easily without any assistance and walk without a limp back to the room. Suddenly it is a knee. Later he can be seen in civvies, no knee brace, no cane, no limp or awkward gait. Now with a hip that is possible but not a knee.

Okay I went off topic, but no training or even bad training last year is not an excuse or reason for bad performances 45+ games later, for his Swedish coach to say he was disappointed in his play and for EP to say he was happy with his defence.
Dr.Tocchet says he was injured, not what was injured, not how he was injured and where is that photo of him with an ice bag? I can't find it only a media guy saying he saw it, but did that media guy even know who EP was?

I was just watching EP's video about being chosen for the 4 nations, has anyone noticed his right eye seems to go off track? It is really easy to see.

4 Nations Face-Off | Elias Pettersson | Vancouver Canucks

Elias Pettersson speaks to the media following Team Sweden practice.

www.nhl.com

 

[4th line culture]

What reported knee injury in January 2024? Can't find anything about a reported knee injury then, just some Dhali guesses. Remember Dhali was also the media guy saying there was no issues between EP and JTM, then suddenly there were. Dhali was also the guy that said MIller had "emotional issues" and now it is leaking out that there was an issue between Tocchet and Miller, slowly leaking out little bits here and there from sources that are his friends.

There has been so much misdirection of information fed to the public by owned media marketers.
Demko's injuries for instance. It is well known he has had double hip surgeries years ago.
Symptoms of a hip injury are everything the Canucks have stated he has had.
BUT
Never do they say it is hip related, the word hip is never connected to his injury, even an unheard of Pop muscle injury, but low and behold, McDavid had his detached and never reattached, no surgery with apparently no issues but that bit about McDavid's is never mentioned.
When there is one word that is avoided fanatically it should make that word more noticeable.
There are "procedures" on a hip that take, guess what, the same time for recovery that Demko took.
Schneider had this happen, look at his time lines. There has been progress in that area.

Has anyone ever had a knee injury where there isn't a limp or other outward noticeable change in normal gait or performance?
Demko injures his knee but can skate normally to the bench, lift his leg and pad over the bench easily without any assistance and walk without a limp back to the room. Suddenly it is a knee. Later he can be seen in civvies, no knee brace, no cane, no limp or awkward gait. Now with a hip that is possible but not a knee.

Okay I went off topic, but no training or even bad training last year is not an excuse or reason for bad performances 45+ games later, for his Swedish coach to say he was disappointed in his play and for EP to say he was happy with his defence.
Dr.Tocchet says he was injured, not what was injured, not how he was injured and where is that photo of him with an ice bag? I can't find it only a media guy saying he saw it, but did that media guy even know who EP was?

I was just watching EP's video about being chosen for the 4 nations, has anyone noticed his right eye seems to go off track? It is really easy to see.

4 Nations Face-Off | Elias Pettersson | Vancouver Canucks

Elias Pettersson speaks to the media following Team Sweden practice.

www.nhl.com

So all the pettersson knee injury stuff is just a clever bit of media manipulation to hide a brain injury?

 

[rypper]

So all the pettersson knee injury stuff is just a clever bit of media manipulation to hide a brain injury?

Sounds legit

 

[I am toxic]

So all the pettersson knee injury stuff is just a clever bit of media manipulation to hide a brain injury?

there is plenty of evidence of brain injury in this thread

just not Petey

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

What reported knee injury in January 2024? Can't find anything about a reported knee injury then, just some Dhali guesses. Remember Dhali was also the media guy saying there was no issues between EP and JTM, then suddenly there were. Dhali was also the guy that said MIller had "emotional issues" and now it is leaking out that there was an issue between Tocchet and Miller, slowly leaking out little bits here and there from sources that are his friends.

There has been so much misdirection of information fed to the public by owned media marketers.
Demko's injuries for instance. It is well known he has had double hip surgeries years ago.
Symptoms of a hip injury are everything the Canucks have stated he has had.
BUT
Never do they say it is hip related, the word hip is never connected to his injury, even an unheard of Pop muscle injury, but low and behold, McDavid had his detached and never reattached, no surgery with apparently no issues but that bit about McDavid's is never mentioned.
When there is one word that is avoided fanatically it should make that word more noticeable.
There are "procedures" on a hip that take, guess what, the same time for recovery that Demko took.
Schneider had this happen, look at his time lines. There has been progress in that area.

Has anyone ever had a knee injury where there isn't a limp or other outward noticeable change in normal gait or performance?
Demko injures his knee but can skate normally to the bench, lift his leg and pad over the bench easily without any assistance and walk without a limp back to the room. Suddenly it is a knee. Later he can be seen in civvies, no knee brace, no cane, no limp or awkward gait. Now with a hip that is possible but not a knee.

Okay I went off topic, but no training or even bad training last year is not an excuse or reason for bad performances 45+ games later, for his Swedish coach to say he was disappointed in his play and for EP to say he was happy with his defence.
Dr.Tocchet says he was injured, not what was injured, not how he was injured and where is that photo of him with an ice bag? I can't find it only a media guy saying he saw it, but did that media guy even know who EP was?

I was just watching EP's video about being chosen for the 4 nations, has anyone noticed his right eye seems to go off track? It is really easy to see.

4 Nations Face-Off | Elias Pettersson | Vancouver Canucks

Elias Pettersson speaks to the media following Team Sweden practice.

www.nhl.com

Bruh

 

[credulous]

They've claimed repeatidly that there's no injury so if he and his agent were lying and he has some sort of chronic condition that has caused his decline and is unlikely to change then they could terminate the contract. Of course it would cause an uproar with the NHLPA and maybe they'd need to settle but we've seen contract terminations before like with players fitness levels.

i could be missing someone but i think the only player who had their contract terminated for cause due to anything close to fitness or a injury is ryan johansen and that was about him allegedly faking or exaggerating an injury not just being unable to play. the only other ones i remember are mike richards and galchenyuk (drugs), kane (not following team policies regarding covid), corey perry (mysterious but definitely not injury related) and maybe voynov but i think he was just suspended indefinitely

 

[theguardianII]

So all the pettersson knee injury stuff is just a clever bit of media manipulation to hide a brain injury?

Well it fits my narrative of PCS. And the symptoms of PCS. Most all of them.
And the thing about PCS is the person might not be fully aware out it, just out of sorts a lot.

Media manipulation? You doubt that could happen? After the "there is no rift in the room" for months only later to hear, "ya, we knew about that for years"

It used to be the media followed stories now they just report what the NHL, Team and Rogers, their employers tell them too. Even the non direct employees.

 

[4th line culture]

Well it fits my narrative of PCS. And the symptoms of PCS. Most all of them.
And the thing about PCS is the person might not be fully aware out it, just out of sorts a lot.

Media manipulation? You doubt that could happen? After the "there is no rift in the room" for months only later to hear, "ya, we knew about that for years"

It used to be the media followed stories now they just report what the NHL, Team and Rogers, their employers tell them too. Even the non direct employees.

So he got this concussion at the allstar game?

Also the rift in the room was reported on plenty of times over the years including this year. Were all those reports done by rouge agents not part of the grand conspiracy or were those team sanctioned reports?

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I'm not sure I believe it's a knee injury when the most shocking manifestation of his terrible play was the playoffs last year where his shooting accuracy just vanished.

 

[docbenton]

I'm tired of talking about injury or no injury. The reality is that you need players who can play well through pain and even injury in the playoffs, especially if you are a star player. Almost everyone is injured in some way in the playoffs. There is a long track record of star players making big contributions through serious injuries in order to win.

I don't think management were in denial of Pettersson's injury, but they felt that he was one of the least injured players on the team in the playoffs last year. If you can't play well through injury, chances are you are no use in the NHL playoffs. That's the reality.

 

[theguardianII]

So he got this concussion at the allstar game?

Also the rift in the room was reported on plenty of times over the years including this year. Were all those reports done by rouge agents not part of the grand conspiracy or were those team sanctioned reports?

Concussions are cumulative. His first in the NHL, goes back to Florida. That's the same issue with Chytil and Byram, one more and can they keep playing?
I found this podcast that shows a few but does miss a couple of other times. And his eyes

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I’ve found the cure for Petey on Facebook:

 

[me2]

They've claimed repeatidly that there's no injury so if he and his agent were lying and he has some sort of chronic condition that has caused his decline and is unlikely to change then they could terminate the contract. Of course it would cause an uproar with the NHLPA and maybe they'd need to settle but we've seen contract terminations before like with players fitness levels.

The team knew what it was signing. No grounds for termination there.

Imaging trying to argue they didn't know anything when their own medical staff were in charge of the player for years leading up the signing. Either they knew or they're admiring their staff failed in their duty of care.