Confirmed with Link: Brind'Amour named head coach

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Sweet Jesus we were so wrong about this. So many comments, many of them from some very intelligent posters, aged horribly.

I’m including myself here. I commented somewhere in here. I scrolled through the first four pages looking and then gave up. But I’m pretty sure I said something stupid at the time.

When I come off as a voice of reason you know some wild shit went down

 

[MinJaBen]

I looked through my responses to this trying to find my bad take. After just a few pages I realized that HFBoards doesn't let you quote that much all at once, so I just leave my first bad take I found here:

Miss us yet?

 

[chaz4hockey]

 

[MinJaBen]

Dude is still more ripped than almost any current NHL player.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

I looked through my responses to this trying to find my bad take. After just a few pages I realized that HFBoards doesn't let you quote that much all at once, so I just leave my first bad take I found here:

That gotta be on the Bad Takes Hall of Fame

 

[Jerkob Slavin]

Great necro bump.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Great necro bump.

Yep, I'd say it did indeed

Nice

 

[bleedgreen]

I was concerned about Rod! I used to cringe at the on bench interviews during the game when he was assistant. He would just stammer and sound like an idiot. “Uhhhhh…..we just gotta play harder!!!.

It was painful. When he was hired I didn’t think there was any way he could be a good X’s and O’s guy, I only saw him as a players buddy and motivating kind of coach. I was wrong. He changed the whole culture and I’m glad we won under that culture as it was worthy of validation. He showed you could win by playing old school, which I love - and he communicates in a way the new school obviously appreciates.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

There are times I wonder if Rod is an old school Jarvis: a guy smarter than your average NHLer and is somewhat playing into a stereotype to make sure he fits in

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

In honor of this thread, I will be the first to say Fire Brind'Amour!

I will bump this in a few years when that inevitably becomes a popular sentiment.

It never became popular sentiment. I’m impressed by the fanbase for that.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Absolute wow

 

[Lempo]

The previous time I saw a shirtless hockey coach was years and years back when Hannu Jortikka threw a player under the bus in an after-game presser for not having spare skates for his spare skates.

 

[bleedgreen]

I might be the only one, but I really like this move. Forget that it's Roddy B. Forget that it's an internal hire.

Imagine that you just heard that we just hired a gritty, cerebral former player who hated losing and drove his teammates to play better and try harder; one of best all-around technical players of all time--never the most talented guy in the room, his commitment to improving his game and his technical mastery made him respected throughout the NHL and might get him into the HHoF some day. As a player, he was also known for being someone that would work with teammates to improve their technical skills, understanding of plays, and conditioning, even on his own personal time. Teammates described him as "like having a coach as a teammate."

Because, that's the guy we hired. I'm excited to see what he can do as a HC.

Ooooooo…….someone gets a cookie for being Nostradamus.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Just skimming the first few pages, it seems like my posts were more focused on how worried I was about Dundon’s possibly moving the team. And given that it was confirmed (at a much later date) that he was of that mindset at that time, I have no bad takes in this topic

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This was a hell of a walk down memory lane.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

This was a hell of a walk down memory lane.

Thank you for the necro like of me (and you) kinda nailing it

Call me a fool, but I am buying just about every single thing they sold at the presser today.

I’m genuinely excited about Rod.

If viewed in a certain context (and giving benefit of the doubt, the context I think he meant), I’m actually in agreement with him. We just watched one of the best X’s and O’s coaches in the world underachieve with this team for 4 years, while seemingly making the “wrong” culture decision every time (double captains, “make a f***ing save,” feud with RF, etc.)

Everyone that was around for the 05-06 season knows that there was something completely and fundamentally right about the culture of this team. It wasn’t the most talented team, but it was well-oiled and filled with players that would rush through a brick wall for each other.

Everyone that is around this season knows that there is something completely and fundamentally right about the culture of the Vegas Golden Knights. It’s not the most talented team, but it is well-oiled and filled with players that would rush through a brick wall for each other.

Everyone that was around for the last 9 years knows that there was something completely and fundamentally rotten about the culture of this team. They weren’t the least talented teams (especially the last two seasons), but they never really seemed to have any accountability towards themselves or each other.


I don’t think he’s saying X’s and O’s aren’t important, he’s saying they’re overrated. I don’t disagree. We’ve seen teams with very different systems succeed in the last several years. We watched Ottawa make the conference finals last year with the same system that made them bottom dwellers this year. And we’ve watched as a soulless, personality-less team in Carolina has floundered for close to 10 years without a real leader to speak of.

Dundon’s big thing is that this is a business like any other business, and hockey players are employees. Many have had the experience of working for employers where they feel enabled, heard, valuable, and a part of a strong team. In those situations, you naturally want to go above and beyond. There are other situation where you feel like a faceless cog. So long as you’re not the weak link, you could care less about going above and beyond. The latter is what this team has become for the last few years. And like at work, where a good manager can come in and make some changes to processes but also bring accountability to make sure you feel valuable, Rod can bring that to the Hurricanes. I’m sure the system will change, and maybe it won’t be as tight as it was under Peters. But the players will play, play hard, and play for each other, or be replaced by those who will.

 

[CandyCanes]

Lol Chantel McCabe

Lol Chantel McCabe was voice of reason

 

[tarheelhockey]

Just skimming the first few pages, it seems like my posts were more focused on how worried I was about Dundon’s possibly moving the team. And given that it was confirmed (at a much later date) that he was of that mindset at that time, I have no bad takes in this topic

I do think we’ve lost a lot of context for those early takes. Dundon had fired Francis, but the GM search was stalled and would eventually land on the guy who guided the Thrashers into relocation. The head coaching search had stalled and finally settled on a guy who had no head coaching experience. Both of those searches were dogged by rumors of Dundon low-balling candidates and projecting a hostile atmosphere to come. We were only a few months past the very serious possibility of a relocation, and Dundon himself was out-of-town money with a reputation for making cold blooded decisions.

Everything about the situation felt like venture capital shedding costs to make the balance sheet look better ahead of a liquidation. If we made this hire today it would be a ballsy endorsement of a black horse candidate; back then it was a sign of a painful time to come. And that’s exactly what happened as we still hadn’t yet reached that summer’s firing of Chuck Kaiton, or the whole thing with Eric Cole publicly sticking a knife in Jeff Skinner’s back before they got rid of him.

I do get the fun of reading bad takes, but they shouldn’t be read as hot takes. This was the darkest depth of a fanbase truly not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel after nearly a decade of things getting steadily worse.

 

[LakeLivin]

Lol Chantel McCabe

OOF! I scrolled down a few of her posts from there and stumbled across this, lol!



Edit: I'm an idiot. Was thinking of Abby and wondering why she didn't delete that video, lol.

Edit2: can't find the video, but Abby's reaction in the booth when the Canes beat the Caps in OT in game 7 was priceless!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Thank you for the necro like of me (and you) kinda nailing it

Thanks, but I didn't nail it at all, because I never commit anymore to any opinion except "I don't know shit." My whole opinion through this was "I mean, guys seem to like him, maybe it'll work out, I don't know shit." I literally asked the mods in this thread to change my nick from HankAnger to HankDontKnow.

The one thing I do know, from personal experience, is that culture defines organizations. My one hope, from the beginning, was that Rod could fix a culture that had clearly broken down. That was not a hot take; it was, in fact, the only upside that everyone could agree to. And it was the one thing about which we were all, in hindsight, exactly right.

 

[hockeynjune]

Thanks, but I didn't nail it at all, because I never commit anymore to any opinion except "I don't know shit." My whole opinion through this was "I mean, guys seem to like him, maybe it'll work out, I don't know shit." I literally asked the mods in this thread to change my nick from HankAnger to HankDontKnow.

The one thing I do know, from personal experience, is that culture defines organizations. My one hope, from the beginning, was that Rod could fix a culture that had clearly broken down. That was not a hot take; it was, in fact, the only upside that everyone could agree to. And it was the one thing about which we were all, in hindsight, exactly right

Good or bad , culture always prevails. Rod is truly one of the last work ethic pays off guys , and he walks the walk every day.

 

[Ole Gil]

I’m not re-reading this because I don’t have the time so if this has been said already, my apologies.

One of the things Rod said when he was hired was that as an assistant coach you have to defer to the head coach even if you don’t agree with him, or something to that effect. That’s how Peters, and I’m guessing many many other coaches operate. That’s how many GMs operate (like Francis). That was never going to work for TD. And that’s not how it’s working under Rod. In the article about the Canes goaltending with Bales he said Rod asks him which goalie to start and he’s yet to overrule him. Something to the effect of, those are his guys, he knows better than me. I’m sure other coaches ask for input and what not, but how many do you think give the goalie coach that much.

This is a fun quote from yesteryear. All the credit Rod was given for putting in Bussi. Rod probably just did the same thing he's been doing for years. "Who's in net? ... Sounds good!"

 

[Joe McGrath]

I think the only truly correct post on the first 10 pages was from Chantel McCabe of all people, who was obviously laughed at by the poster who was quoting her.