BenchBrawl
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what would belfour be? he was the most important player on those teams, imo.
modano vs kopitar would an interesting poll
IIRC Belfour was more important in the 00 run.
what would belfour be? he was the most important player on those teams, imo.
modano vs kopitar would an interesting poll
Isn't Kane already past Leetch? If not he must be damn close.He's been at the very upper echelon of the NHL since 2013, and he too has the playoffs heroics.
Isn't Kane already past Leetch? If not he must be damn close.He's been at the very upper echelon of the NHL since 2013, and he too has the playoffs heroics.
I don't get it
not quite yet. Leetch gets pretty heavily underrated.
career PPG of 0.85 over 1,200 games for a defenseman is no joke.
Especially one as good defensively as Leetch. He wasnt some sheltered PMD running around. Doughty would be a poor man's Leetch.
2x Norris, Smythe, Calder.
Also, Leetch has the best playoff run between the 2. 11-23-34 in 23, +19 and 4 GWG.
In terms of Modano. Sorry, not sorry but I have Roenick above him.
Lafontaine didn't play long enough to crack this list I don't think.
I think Kane vs Modano is a good and better debate. Kane has the advantages offensively, his skill and versatility offensively is up there with the best in his era. He had a much higher peak, and has the hardware with multiple cups. Modano was the better all around player while being one one of the highest scoring players in the DPE while being a defensive threat. He had two overall impressive cup runs, winning once.Isn't Kane already past Leetch? If not he must be damn close.He's been at the very upper echelon of the NHL since 2013, and he too has the playoffs heroics.
Who are the top 5 American players ?
1. Chelios
2. Brimsek
3. M.Howe
4. Leetch
5. Br.Hull
Adjusted stats are not legitimate. I wish people would quit using them as if they carry any meaningful weight in their arguments.
Bull****, Lafontaine is in the HHOF and Barrasso isn't even though for ridiculously biased reasons. Lafontaine absolutely deserves to be in the top 5 best Americans.
I have no issue with Modano over Lafontaine in terms of overall career, sure. But Barrasso....??? No....Chelios, Brimsek, Leetch, Barrasso, Modano. It isn't like there are scrubs in place of Lafontaine. I don't mind Lafontaine ahead of Barrasso though to be honest. I just think because of time and seasons missed he isn't ahead of Modano. Modano beats them both personally, I didn't really have my list in any specific order other than Chelios would be my #1 regardless.
so you believe wayne scores 50 in 39 in today's era and 215 points?Adjusted stats are not legitimate. I wish people would quit using them as if they carry any meaningful weight in their arguments.
so you believe wayne scores 50 in 39 in today's era and 215 points?
I’m honestly surprised some here don’t even consider him a top 5 American player. He’s the highest scoring player for his country. He was one of the best two way players during his era. To be the highest scoring American born player in goals, assists, and overall points with a cup, and NOT be considered top 5 is insane to me.
Modano was a much better and more dominant player than Toews ever was. He has the actually play and numbers to back it up, all Toews gas is intangibles. There is nothing intangible about being the number one American born offensive player.It's because he's the American Toews.
Overrated > underrated.
Modano was a much better and more dominant player than Toews ever was. He has the actually play and numbers to back it up, all Toews gas is intangibles. There is nothing intangible about being the number one American born offensive player.