Value of: Brendan Smith

[Kakko Schmakko]

Brendan Smith has been playing well and has displayed a good mix of versatility and ruggedness and all around good mobile veteran team player.

Rangers likely need to make room for Miller or Rykov or Hajek and have cap issues. Smith just turned 31, has 1 year left @4.35 Cap.

I think if Rangers retain about 1/3 of his salary there should be several teams interested.

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[Langdon Alger]

His cap hit is higher than his salary for next year, so you can expect Ottawa will be interested.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Figure NYR pay 1m salary bonus which makes a 4.35m cap number a 2.35m base salary. Pick up 25% for Ottawa. and it makes for 3.1m cap and 1.8m salary. I could see Ottawa biting.

 

[Oddbob]

Even at 50% retention he will not have any value to speak of.

 

[17futurecap]

His value:

2020-2021 Buyout Savings 1,566,667
2020-2021 Cap Hit 2,783,333

2021-2022 Cap Hit 783,333

 

[Flyer lurker]

Not that B Smith is good but I just have less faith in Ottawa owner worrying about doing right thing vs cheap thing.

 

[LarKing]

Brendan Smith might be the dumbest player in the league. It’s a shame because most of the skills for a quality 2nd pairing dman are there and you’ll see them fairly often. But then he single handedly loses games with awful turnovers.

 

[bernmeister]

Brendan Smith might be the dumbest player in the league. It’s a shame because most of the skills for a quality 2nd pairing dman are there and you’ll see them fairly often. But then he single handedly loses games with awful turnovers.

So, given this ^ which gives Smith benefit of the doubt, and given assets are commodities with a range of negative - positive values, what do we think Rangers have to cough up to move him?

I agree that he would finally be expiring would be a big dif.

Only other factor is if Marc Staal does not retire, do they buy HIM out? If yes that may provide better $ cushion than buying out Smith.
[So cost of buyout Smith v. cost of buyout Staal is possible competing option.]

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Brendan Smith might be the dumbest player in the league. It’s a shame because most of the skills for a quality 2nd pairing dman are there and you’ll see them fairly often. But then he single handedly loses games with awful turnovers.

Any defenseman can have awful turnover.

 

[teemussalami]

Any defenseman can have awful turnover.

Coming from a fellow Wings fan, we had the unfortunate pleasure of watching Smith for 6 years. He's dumb

 

[RangersFan1994]

i rather keep Smith and try to move Staal

 

[Hammettf2b]

Did he move back to playing defense? I know he was getting tried out at forward for a while. (something that was tried in Detroit as well)

 

[LarKing]

Coming from a fellow Wings fan, we had the unfortunate pleasure of watching Smith for 6 years. He's dumb

Yeah but most of them don’t do it frequently enough to cost your team games.

 

[TS Quint]

Any defenseman can have awful turnover.

You might sell that load of crap to other fan bases who knew as much as the Rangers did when they traded for him and then signed him to that ludicrous contract. But don’t try to sell that to Wings fans that know he’s dumb and it’s not about a single turnover. It about his constant bonehead plays. Just because in your mind he’s been better lately doesn’t erase his career.

 

[themelkman]

Maybe you can send him and a second to Ottawa

 

[TS Quint]

Rangers need to suck it up for one more year to clear all that dead weight on their cap. Play they kids, find out what you have, and hope Kakko is worth his draft position by 2021 and they should be off and running.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No value to him.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Maybe you can send him and a second to Ottawa

The Rangers would need to pay his signing bonus too since we know Melnyk doesn’t do that.

 

[eco's bones]

IMO Smith goes for periods of time trying to play outside his limitations and really I don't see second pairing skills so much as a guy who was a big deal offensive player in college who never quite figured out that those offensive skills he had in college didn't really make the leap with him to the pros. So when he tries the fancy shit he tends to get burned. When he sticks to just playing his position and letting the points come when they come he's somewhere between okay and pretty good.

He has his moments. I like his edge though he can go over the top in that regard too--sometimes taking dumbass penalties and sometimes at dumbass times. He fought Jamie Benn last night and did pretty well. No one was hurt or landed a really big shot but if there was an edge to be given I would give it to Smith.

What's he worth? If a team were interested we're probably talking about a 4th rd.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

IMO Smith goes for periods of time trying to play outside his limitations and really I don't see second pairing skills so much as a guy who was a big deal offensive player in college who never quite figured out that those offensive skills he had in college didn't really make the leap with him to the pros. So when he tries the fancy shit he tends to get burned. When he sticks to just playing his position and letting the points come when they come he's somewhere between okay and pretty good.

He has his moments. I like his edge though he can go over the top in that regard too--sometimes taking dumbass penalties and sometimes at dumbass times. He fought Jamie Benn last night and did pretty well. No one was hurt or landed a really big shot but if there was an edge to be given I would give it to Smith.

What's he worth? If a team were interested we're probably talking about a 4th rd.

The wings will give you Madison Bowey for him.

 

[ThankGord]

The wings will give you Madison Bowey for him.

As a Wings fan I wouldn't unless the Rangers are adding a pick.

 

[The Nuge]

I feel like you have to retain 50% on Smith to even have a shot at not adding to him to dump his contract. It’s not like they’re going to be that tight to the cap, so just suffer through another year, and then make the push when Smith and Staal come off the cap.

Figure NYR pay 1m salary bonus which makes a 4.35m cap number a 2.35m base salary. Pick up 25% for Ottawa. and it makes for 3.1m cap and 1.8m salary. I could see Ottawa biting.

Even then though, there’s likely better options for Ottawa. Kris Russell for example fits better in every way. He’s a better dman than Smith, and he makes 1.5 against a 4 million cap hit

 

[Flyer lurker]

I feel like you have to retain 50% on Smith to even have a shot at not adding to him to dump his contract. It’s not like they’re going to be that tight to the cap, so just suffer through another year, and then make the push when Smith and Staal come off the cap.



Even then though, there’s likely better options for Ottawa. Kris Russell for example fits better in every way. He’s a better dman than Smith, and he makes 1.5 against a 4 million cap hit

Ottawa owner as cheap as he is would take both, Toronto long term ir's etc. He is a snake oil salesman. But I agree Russell is better than Smith. And if Smith doesn't go to Ottawa even at 2.2m cap at 50% I have doubts anyone else would pick up.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

As a Wings fan I wouldn't unless the Rangers are adding a pick.

I like your thinking. (I'm also a wings fan)
How about
Madison Bowey for Brendan Smith and NYR's 2nd this year?

 

[RangersFan1994]

I like your thinking. (I'm also a wings fan)
How about
Madison Bowey for Brendan Smith and NYR's 2nd this year?

wow Bowey has been that bad, not that Smith is but hey you guys want Staal since you have dead weight why not add another piece lmfao