Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

[Tetragrammaton]

The fact hes busted his balls for absolutely no result shouldnt change anything to the way we perceive him.

He busted his balls for his own personal gain and made millions. We’re supposed to feel sorry for him now apparently.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

So much hate for a once beloved Hab. He says he's healthy for the first time in a long time... let's see if that's true. I'd like to think he's earned the benefit of the doubt. A healthy Gally is a unique player. 6.5 mil is a high price point - but if he goes 25 & 25 this year, I couldn't care less about what he's making.

25 and 25 ?!!



Yes sure 3-4 years ago when he played 1st line minutes. He’s a 3rd/4th line guy now, if he gets 10 and 10 I’ll be happy.

 

[bighab]

25 and 25 ?!!



Yes sure 3-4 years ago when he played 1st line minutes. He’s a 3rd/4th line guy now, if he gets 10 and 10 I’ll be happy.

I'm gonna take the bait - but based on your posts, I don't think I'm changing your mind anytime soon hahaha.

Last season Gallagher was injured. In his Knuckles interview the other day, he detailed this pretty explicitly. Despite this, he was prorated for 35 pts over 82 games. Do you genuinely believe that, despite his good health, he will put up 15 less points than what he was projected for last year... in a season from hell? I don't think that's very reasonable, especially considering his age.

I understand you're frustrated, but all of his stats suggest he's going to bounce back. The year prior he put up 23 in 35. Before that 43 in 59. Players have tough years. Players also bounce back. Does his body of work not suggest last year was an anomaly?

This isn't Brian Flynn out there... it's Gallagher. Have some faith, my friend! And look at his stats again... Gallagher isn't a 20 pt player.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

I'm gonna take the bait - but based on your posts, I don't think I'm changing your mind anytime soon hahaha.

Last season Gallagher was injured. In his Knuckles interview the other day, he detailed this pretty explicitly. Despite this, he was prorated for 35 pts over 82 games. Do you genuinely believe that, despite his good health, he will put up 15 less points than what he was projected for last year... in a season from hell? I don't think that's very reasonable, especially considering his age.

I understand you're frustrated, but all of his stats suggest he's going to bounce back. The year prior he put up 23 in 35. Before that 43 in 59. Players have tough years. Players also bounce back. Does his body of work not suggest last year was an anomaly?

This isn't Brian Flynn out there... it's Gallagher. Have some faith, my friend! And look at his stats again... Gallagher isn't a 20 pt player.

I’m not frustrated, just playing GM. The prior years that you are talking about is when he was playing 1st line with Danault, those days are over. He’s gonna be given 3rd/4th line minutes. These are our right wingers:

Caufield
Anderson
Gallagher
Armia

Also I don’t believe he will be able to play 82 games, so I would be happy with 10-10 from him, he can probably get 15-20 if he kills himself for one last season..

 

[Captain Mountain]

I'm gonna take the bait - but based on your posts, I don't think I'm changing your mind anytime soon hahaha.

Last season Gallagher was injured. In his Knuckles interview the other day, he detailed this pretty explicitly. Despite this, he was prorated for 35 pts over 82 games. Do you genuinely believe that, despite his good health, he will put up 15 less points than what he was projected for last year... in a season from hell? I don't think that's very reasonable, especially considering his age.

I understand you're frustrated, but all of his stats suggest he's going to bounce back. The year prior he put up 23 in 35. Before that 43 in 59. Players have tough years. Players also bounce back. Does his body of work not suggest last year was an anomaly?

This isn't Brian Flynn out there... it's Gallagher. Have some faith, my friend! And look at his stats again... Gallagher isn't a 20 pt player.

He's also never really been a 1st liner. Ever. His whole deal is that with managed minutes 5v5 he creates an insane amount of scoring chances and with the right linemates produces. Its why most of his career he was one of if not the best 5v5 goal scorers and xG players in the entire NHL.

Its not like a certain... reactionary... segment of the fanbase hasn't done this before with him. They did it in 2016-2017 too, which was the only other season that he was shooting less than half his career average.

Gallagher's older and has more wear and tear. Its unlikely that he'll be able to get back to his peak. But there's really no way to describe betting that a guy is done who:

-has been one of the most consistent 5v5 goal scorers in the NHL for his career;
-who still has really strong underlying numbers; and
-somehow only had 1 5v5 goal after leading the league on a per game/60 basis in that stat for most of his career;

as dumb.

Maybe injuries have ruined him. But its not a rational argument to make, its an emotional one. And the emotion is rather ugly.

 

[WickedPegJets]

Brendan Gallagher: Can he bounce back?

Probably not.

Gally is washed up.

 

[bighab]

I’m not frustrated, just playing GM. The prior years that you are talking about is when he was playing 1st line with Danault, those days are over. He’s gonna be given 3rd/4th line minutes. These are our right wingers:

Caufield
Anderson
Gallagher
Armia

Also I don’t believe he will be able to play 82 games, so I would be happy with 10-10 from him, he can probably get 15-20 if he kills himself for one last season..

You know, I hear some of what youre saying here - I don't think he'll play first line & if injuries happen all bets are off.

Last year he didn't play first line either. He was still prorated for 35 pts & he did that injured. If Gallagher is healthy, he'll be given opportunities to shine. No one wants his contract to turn into a 6.5 million dollar albatross; not you, me, HuGo, Marty, or Gally.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Depends how high of a clip you drop him from

 

[Tetragrammaton]

You know, I hear some of what youre saying here - I don't think he'll play first line & if injuries happen all bets are off.

Last year he didn't play first line either. He was still prorated for 35 pts & he did that injured. If Gallagher is healthy, he'll be given opportunities to shine. No one wants his contract to turn into a 6.5 million dollar albatross; not you, me, HuGo, Marty, or Gally.

I hope I’m wrong and he scores 25 goals, I’ll be rooting for him that’s for sure while he’s a Hab as I root for every Habs player to succeed.

 

[Schooner Guy]

The fact hes busted his balls for absolutely no result shouldnt change anything to the way we perceive him.

He's a 5th rounder who has big time overachieved in his career. A couple of 30+ goal seasons and a bright light in an offensively impotent Habs era. You fair-weathers will eventually turn on Suzuki, Caufield etc. I've seen it a thousand times.

 

[the]

Gally is the poster boy of the Bergevin era. Small unskilled talentess player. Contrary to popular belief it was never P'tit David.

Rebound season or not, I just want to move on from this "heart and soul" fake captain overrated PR era.

It's not like he will do much during the playoffs anyways.

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

Atta boy Gally is the poster boy of the Bergevin era. Small unskilled talentess player. Contrary to popular belief it was never P'tit David.

Rebound season or not, I just want to move on from this garbage heart and soul fake captain overrated PR bullshit era.

It's not like he will do much during the playoffs anyways.

I remember Therrien almost crying in a press conference because Gallagher was getting roughed up. Therrien loved him. He was tailor made for the get puck to da net system. I don't see how he can thrive with MSL as a coach.

 

[Habs10Habs]

I remember Therrien almost crying in a press conference because Gallagher was getting roughed up. Therrien loved him. He was tailor made for the get puck to da net system. I don't see how he can thrive with MSL as a coach.

Regardless of what style MSL has the boys playing. You still need players willing to go to the net, win puck battles in the corner. Basically sacrifice their bodies.

 

[Habs10Habs]

I hope I’m wrong and he scores 25 goals, I’ll be rooting for him that’s for sure while he’s a Hab as I root for every Habs player to succeed.

This is what I don't understand. Regardless of the player, except Ribiero who was a f***ing embarrassment. I've always rooted for every Habs player while they wore the CH. Sure I've been critical of some players play on the ice. But some here take it to a whole other "personal" level. Which makes me laugh since the majority don't know anything about the player. Outside of what they see on the ice, or read/hear in articles and interviews.

 

[MaynardJames]

Atta boy Gally is the poster boy of the Bergevin era. Small unskilled talentess player. Contrary to popular belief it was never P'tit David.

Rebound season or not, I just want to move on from this garbage heart and soul fake captain overrated PR bullshit era.

It's not like he will do much during the playoffs anyways.

I never was a fan of Gallagher. I knew is talent was limited but that was nasty and unrespectful. You have zero class.

Gallagher a 5'9 guy picked 147th in the 2010 draft. Played 638 regular games for ONE team, that he cherished and gave everything he had. Only 11 players picked the same year have more points than him. he can play another 300 in a lesser role and still be a great guy who never made trouble and never complain. What have you archived beside vile jealousy ?

 

[Mrb1p]

He's a 5th rounder who has big time overachieved in his career. A couple of 30+ goal seasons and a bright light in an offensively impotent Habs era. You fair-weathers will eventually turn on Suzuki, Caufield etc. I've seen it a thousand times.

Didnt turn on Price because he didnt turn into a complete numbnuts and was still an elite player. Didnt turn on Pleks. Didnt turn on Weber. Didnt turn on Markov. Didnt turn on Hamrlik.

Gallaghers antics, his play and his attitude around the room turned me off him.

 

[Hoochi Papa]

 

[dcyhabs]

Gallagher is now overpaid but he’s a top 6 forward on this team. So is Dvorak. Lots of changes are needed before the habs are good.

 

[Miller Time]

I think he'll pace at/above his careeravg this year... Injury remains the biggest risk factor to his overall impact, but to the degree that he stays relatively healthy, 25-30g/50-60pts is what we'll see.

Last year was more worst case scenario than clear regression imo. That drop in capacity to produce will show up before the 6yr deal is up, no doubt, but I think a lot of posters will be surprised by how well he bounces back this season

 

[HabzSauce]

Didnt turn on Price because he didnt turn into a complete numbnuts and was still an elite player. Didnt turn on Pleks. Didnt turn on Weber. Didnt turn on Markov. Didnt turn on Hamrlik.

Gallaghers antics, his play and his attitude around the room turned me off him.

What's up with his attitude around the room? I've only heard great things about his locker room presence

 

[Mrb1p]

What's up with his attitude around the room? I've only heard great things about his locker room presence

I guess its tough to be objective as a Habs fan.

His whining around the refs is absolutely comical.

He whines about goals disallowed when he is clearly in the paint, he clearly hits the goalie, when it is clearly stated its a penalty.

He has literally zero respect from any referee. He even got served a "Go f*** yourself" by Dean Morton this year because he was whining so much and throwing a tantrum.

He has whined and whined about the attention Subban got and Im pretty sure hes at the root of Subban getting traded away (Probably with Patches.)

How many times have you seen him break his stick in the past 2 or 3 years? How many helmets thrown? How many gloves thrown? Tantrums. Thats a lack of composure. Reacting emotionally is the sign of a poor leader.

How many times have you heard him say "We/I deserved..." ? On the opposite end, how many times have you heard him say "We have to be better/were not good enough...".

He is entitled and it is also a sign of poor leadership.

Gallagher has no respect around the league because he is too emotional and entitled.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Gallagher is now overpaid but he’s a top 6 forward on this team. So is Dvorak. Lots of changes are needed before the habs are good.

Who do you have Gallagher ahead of at RW in order to be a Top 6 - - Caufield or Anderson?

 

[FF de Mars]

I guess its tough to be objective as a Habs fan.

His whining around the refs is absolutely comical.

He whines about goals disallowed when he is clearly in the paint, he clearly hits the goalie, when it is clearly stated its a penalty.

He has literally zero respect from any referee. He even got served a "Go f*** yourself" by Dean Morton this year because he was whining so much and throwing a tantrum.

He has whined and whined about the attention Subban got and Im pretty sure hes at the root of Subban getting traded away (Probably with Patches.)

How many times have you seen him break his stick in the past 2 or 3 years? How many helmets thrown? How many gloves thrown? Tantrums. Thats a lack of composure. Reacting emotionally is the sign of a poor leader.

How many times have you heard him say "We/I deserved..." ? On the opposite end, how many times have you heard him say "We have to be better/were not good enough...".

He is entitled and it is also a sign of poor leadership.

Gallagher has no respect around the league because he is too emotional and entitled.

If he were a sage he would stay in his room, says Pascal. Hockey is a passionate game, you wouldn't ask gladiators to wear a cross, would you? His passion is what drives him to surpass himself! You can bet he's been angry at himself romping in the gym, that's his ambition kicking in.

 

[Mrb1p]

If he were a sage he would stay in his room, says Pascal. Hockey is a passionate game, you wouldn't ask gladiators to wear a cross, would you? His passion is what drives him to surpass himself! You can bet he's been angry at himself romping in the gym, that's his ambition kicking in.

Thats a very lame excuse for poor behavior. Hes hurting the team, its not about being a competitor. It is just old bias still transpiring, in the same line as "Boys will be boys". You see passion, I see lack of discipline, focus and commitment to the team.

If youve been on a remotely competitive team you know how annoying it is to have someone react in that way.

Its been even more apparent with the leadership group off the team, his tantrums have grown exponentially with the departures of Price, Markov, Weber, Plekanec.

 

[FF de Mars]

Thats a very lame excuse for poor behavior. Hes hurting the team, its not about being a competitor. It is just old bias still transpiring, in the same line as "Boys will be boys". You see passion, I see lack of discipline, focus and commitment to the team.

If youve been on a remotely competitive team you know how annoying it is to have someone react in that way.

Its been even more apparent with the leadership group off the team, his tantrums have grown exponentially with the departures of Price, Markov, Weber, Plekanec.

Hopefully he tones it down but you don't want to cut at the root of that passion.