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Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

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Habs Halifax said:
How a buyout in 2023 looks like. We actually save cap space in 24/25? :huh:

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There's no point in buying him out until the team is ready to compete. Until then, even if he's bad, just keep him on the roster. Him being overpaid on an awful team doesn't hurt them at all.
 
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I think he'll bounce back. Trade some of the current wingers who teams want like Anderson and give Gallagher playing time on a bad team. Habs will be a lottery team for the next few years anyway so it doesn't matter.
 
Le Tricolore said:
There's no point in buying him out until the team is ready to compete. Until then, even if he's bad, just keep him on the roster. Him being overpaid on an awful team doesn't hurt them at all.
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Completely agree, I would not necessarily say ready to compete but ready to make the next step at which point we will need cap space. Gally is not a cancer in the locker room at least I do not think so. He can be a good presence with the young kids on his lines. I do feel that when he was partnered with Dvorak and Hoffman last season that he was decent. Was he earning his salary... no and he will never do so. Not his fault but Bergevin's fault.

I keep saying we need good vet to develop good kids. He was a decent puck retriever with Danault at the time. I think he lost a step and needs a guy on his line that will be good at that. Would not mind seeing him most of the season with Dvorak and Slafkowski, have him take Salf under his wing, he can be a good influence off ice even more then provide an influence on the ice.
 
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Can he bounce back? Yes, that a legitimate possibility with a proper offseason to build his body back up.

Does this mean he will bounce back to the guy he was a couple years ago? No. I think those days are gone. However, he is certainly capable of playing better than last year.

Is his contract inflated with respect to what he can provide the club? Yes, and thats the biggest problem in here. I think he can still contribute, but he's probably transitioning to a bottom 6 role, and he's being paid as a top 6 guy.

We all knew this contract was going to be an albatross one day. Unfortunately, that day came pretty much at the inception of the deal rather than towards years 4-6.
 
5 PP goals, all the same...Gally being in front of the net.

1 5 on 5 goal...Evans and Hoffman did all the work.

1 empty net

What's gonna happen when Slaf take his PP time?

 
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5 PP goals, all the same...Gally being in front of the net.

1 5 on 5 goal...Evans and Hoffman did all the work.

1 empty net

What's gonna happen when Slaf take his PP time?

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You have to bank on the fact that he wasn't healthy. Didn't fully recover.

He's been consistent his entire NHL regular season career. There's no reason he can't bounce back at least into a 20 goal 40 pt guy which would mean he's overpaid but not buy out worthy.
 
Ghetto Sangria said:
You have to bank on the fact that he wasn't healthy. Didn't fully recover.

He's been consistent his entire NHL regular season career. There's no reason he can't bounce back at least into a 20 goal 40 pt guy which would mean he's overpaid but not buy out worthy.
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It also depends with which center he's gonna play with. Would he be better with Dvorak or Dach ?
 
Ghetto Sangria said:
You have to bank on the fact that he wasn't healthy. Didn't fully recover.

He's been consistent his entire NHL regular season career. There's no reason he can't bounce back at least into a 20 goal 40 pt guy which would mean he's overpaid but not buy out worthy.
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It should also strike anyone as highly unsustainable for Gallagher, one of the top 5v5 goal scorers from 2014 to 2021, only getting one 5v5 goal. Especially since his underlying numbers weren't bad. He's not going to be what he was, but it would be pretty unprecedented if he was close to as unproductive as he was last season.
 
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He'll be fine this year. Not great and not what he once was, but last year won't be the new normal I don't think. The underlying numbers were fine, and it's not like this is a player that used to rely on blistering speed and slick hands in the past, I don't really buy that he's suddenly lost something off his shot (given that he never really had one in the first place) and now he's a plug forever.

He was a huge outlier near the bottom of the league in terms of goals vs expected goals (scored way way less than his xG numbers would indicate), and I don't really buy that 21-22 Gallagher is now a uniquely poor shooter relative to himself in 18-19, 19-20, or 20-21 in a way that would suggest he's doomed to massively underperform his xG forever. I'd also add that a player being unable to stay healthy after an 8 week offseason and finals run does not mean there's no way they can stay healthy after a 20 week normal offseason.
 
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He will be OK, but he should never have gotten that contract and looked pretty bad the year he signed it long before it kicked in. That was another paid for what you once did. Love price but he has never been as great as 2015 and his contract was based on that year. Has yet to be in vezina level form since.
 
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Zilo44 said:
That highlight video is cringe.

Put Deslauriers on the PP and he gets those 5 goals.

That contract is putrid
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Gallagher is a mere shell of the player he once was. There will be no 'bounce-back'. If one can believe it possible, his contract is worse than the one Bergevin gave Alzner. Such utter incompetence.
 
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Habricot said:
Completely agree, I would not necessarily say ready to compete but ready to make the next step at which point we will need cap space. Gally is not a cancer in the locker room at least I do not think so. He can be a good presence with the young kids on his lines. I do feel that when he was partnered with Dvorak and Hoffman last season that he was decent. Was he earning his salary... no and he will never do so. Not his fault but Bergevin's fault.

I keep saying we need good vet to develop good kids. He was a decent puck retriever with Danault at the time. I think he lost a step and needs a guy on his line that will be good at that. Would not mind seeing him most of the season with Dvorak and Slafkowski, have him take Salf under his wing, he can be a good influence off ice even more then provide an influence on the ice.
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Complete waste to put Slafkovsky on that line. What a disservice to the kid!

Slafkovsky should play with Dach and Dadonov this year. Anderson should play with Suzuki and Caufield.

Gallagher should be with Drouin and Dvorak. Drouin brings the speed neither of the other two have. Dvorak and Gallagher can get 30 goals between them and Drouin can be a 15-25-40 player on that line.

Sucks to be Drouin-Dvorak-Gallagher
 
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He can. He's not the type of guy to just fade away into the sunset.
 
He's been a good Hab for so long, I'm wiling to look past his last season and hope he can come back with renewed vigor. But a little voice in my ear, i think it's Chester, is telling me he's done. He's now a ball and chain.
 
In 2-3 years, has he given ANY indication that he'll "bounce back"? He's not suddenly going to get faster, let alone, suddenly gain talent. Gallagher got the most out of his body. He's done.
 
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MarioLeMoose said:
Unfortunately you are right. He is the type of guy to overstay his welcome and be a massive contract burden.
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Even if he manages to stay healthy, what's the most they can expect out of him? MAYBE he hits 20 goals once? Twice? Will he even continue getting enough playing time to do that? They want to rebuild and play the kids, so he should be off the number 1 PP unit and probably be on the 3rd line. For 6.5 million???? Hell no!
I did love Gallagher and Price, but I'm so glad new management has come in with zero loyalty to guys. Way past time to move on.
 
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Harry Kakalovich said:
I think he'll bounce back. Trade some of the current wingers who teams want like Anderson and give Gallagher playing time on a bad team. Habs will be a lottery team for the next few years anyway so it doesn't matter.
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I’m what world is Anderson not a more desirable player than Gallagher while costing on average about 1 million less / year for the remainder of his contract?
I loved me some Gallagher since he started his career, but sadly he will never play up to his value ever again.
I would try to move him at the trade deadline if anyone is interested
 
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