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Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

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CHwest said:
The thing with Perry is that he is so damn hockey smart. Makes the right play, knows when to get involved and when to skate away. Knows how to agitate without drawing a penalty. All the little things Gallagher just sucks at.
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Pretty much all the opposite of Gallagher lmao. One of the dumbest player on the team.
 
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Manse said:
Guy is out of gas after 30 seconds ... 5 years of dead money , what is it about this team on bad contracts , can't win cups with bad money management
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Let's give Gally the benefit of the doubt. The last two "Covid" seasons + his numerous injuries did not help him. He is getting now a long Summer to rest and train properly.
 
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c3z4r said:
Contender for worst contract in the league.

Still can't believe Bergevin gave him 6.5
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He was underpaid the years before... That is why MB gave him so much. And it is not only for his points totals but his presence on that team as one of the veteran leaders. MB nor any of us knew he would decline so fast.
 
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1909 said:
He was underpaid the years before... That is why MB gave him so much. And it is not only for his points totals but his presence on that team as one of the veteran leaders. MB nor any of us knew he would decline so fast.
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Lots of people on this board predicted he would decline fast. Lots were angry at that contract when it happened.
 
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1909 said:
Let's give Gally the benefit of the doubt. The last two "Covid" seasons + his numerous injuries did not help him. He is getting now a long Summer to rest and train properly.
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Also my opinion!

A guy like him, with a crash the net playstyle, the fights that comes with it after every whistle and the injuries, can definetly benefit from a long offseason to rest and train properly. It was obvious that his gas tank was close to being empty the last 2 seasons. He did great the seasons before that and was always a fan favorite. Let's give the guy a break, i believe he'll be a new player come September ! :)
 
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1909 said:
He was underpaid the years before... That is why MB gave him so much. And it is not only for his points totals but his presence on that team as one of the veteran leaders. MB nor any of us knew he would decline so fast.
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A lot of people saw it coming especially after his performance during the 2020 Covid playoffs. A lot wanted Gallagher traded instead of being offered a new contract.

He always had a limited skillset and none of those skills stood out that would help him offset his decline during the later years of that contract. It was a ugly signing from the beginning and it was offered to Gallagher purely based on emotions by a GM who lacked vision.
 
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the said:
A lot of people saw it coming especially after his performance during the 2020 Covid playoffs. A lot wanted Gallagher traded instead of being offered a new contract.

He always had a limited skillset and none those skills stood out that would help him offset his decline during the later years of that contract. It was a ugly signing from the beginning and it was offered to Gallagher purely based on emotions.
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Bergevin was a loyal GM afterall. "If you want loyalty, buy a dog", does that mean Bergevin was a dog too? That's a syllogism for you!
 
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1909 said:
He was underpaid the years before... That is why MB gave him so much. And it is not only for his points totals but his presence on that team as one of the veteran leaders. MB nor any of us knew he would decline so fast.
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Nah many posters here knew Gally was toast, only BargainBin can be so naïve and blind.
 
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habsterr said:
Nah many posters here knew Gally was toast, only BargainBin can be so naïve and blind.
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Maybe he retire on LTIR around the time the team needs salary? Would be ideal. We were worried with Price and Weber too. Look how it turned out? Only thing is Gallagher is only 30... Anyway what an awful contract, I just hope he can rebound next year, but in reality the best solution for us would be for his body to breakdown asap to the point he can't play anymore. I know it's gloomy and I don't wish that on anybody but that would solve a problem. LTIR is the trump card for bad contracts; luckily we get to draw it.
 
With Weber gone and Price most likely on LTIR until his contract is over, I don’t see Gallagher being happy with a rebuilding team, as we noticed this past season, or providing anything of value offensively for the team. He might be somewhat beneficial for the young players if he has a change in his attitude though.

Best would be to trade him.
 
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A lot of people saw it coming especially after his performance during the 2020 Covid playoffs. A lot wanted Gallagher traded instead of being offered a new contract.

He always had a limited skillset and none those skills stood out that would help him offset his decline during the later years of that contract. It was a ugly signing from the beginning and it was offered to Gallagher purely based on emotions by a GM who lacked vision.
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This is probably the nicest I’ve ever heard you talk about Gallagher. You maturing? Haha.
 
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Manse said:
Guy is out of gas after 30 seconds ... 5 years of dead money , what is it about this team on bad contracts , can't win cups with bad money management
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He has 30 second shifts where he gives every ounce of energy, he is not gassed because he is old or out of shape. He has always been gasping for air after his shifts from his 1st game until his last game .This has been a constant and if more players did that and maximized their potential we would see a much improved product.
 
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I’m not as bearish on Gallagher as most.

A quick look past his stat line reveals almost the exact same Gallagher we’ve known since 2013.

The Bull Case:
• His finishing was 10% below league average, this is unsustainably low.
• His expected goals rate was 17% above league average. This ties his career high in 2014-15, and is one percent higher that his 2012-13 rookie season. His ability to turn nothings into high danger chances is still here, and it’s still in full force.
• Some of his peers in expected goals rate: Jesper Bratt, Timo Meier, Jason Robertson, Jeff Skinner, Matthew Tkachuk, Mitch Marner, Carter Verhaeghe. This is an above average group of players.
• The line of Tatar-Danault-Gallagher (one of the most consistent and effective 5v5 lines in the modern era) was dismantled, and the team bottomed out to historical lows. This obviously had an effect. Frustration, lack of fit, lower quality of teammates obviously played a huge factor. A roster shakeup and improvement seems to me in motion for next year, this should add a boost to his confidence and finishing.

The Bear Case:
• He’s 30 years old. Roughly 6-7 years out of his statistical prime. 30 goals and 60+ points is out of the question.
• His first year removed from Danault showed a huge drop in isolated defensive impacts, something that was always average to slightly above average since 2013. This is the first clear fall off in his game. The first domino?
• Injuries. Two lower body injuries, a broken thumb, broken jaw.

Gallagher’s game was never built on speed or skill, i’m not worried about him slowing down. Think Patric Hörnqvist. I would like to see Dadonov-Evans-Gallagher or maybe Ylonen-Wright-Gallagher, to an extent.

I still think there’s reason for hope.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
He has 30 second shifts where he gives every ounce of energy, he is not gassed because he is old or out of shape. He has always been gasping for air after his shifts from his 1st game until his last game .This has been a constant and if more players did that and maximized their potential we would see a much improved product.
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That is not sustainable. The hockey season is a grind, a long game. Players that play like him end up like him. A series or an entire playoff, sure go for it. But an entire season and playoff? Not sustainable.
 
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I was so happy with his previous contract because it had the foresight to end when Gally was expected to fall off. Then Bergy extended him as the highest paid forward at the time.. lol what? I'd rather Danault at 6 than Gally at 6.5, and I really don't think Danault had a spot here long term.
 
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