Proposal: Brannstroming A Brandt New Approach: L.A. + OTT + DAL

[Perennial]

After hearing from L.A. fans about how excited they are for a young offensive-minded Dman, I've come up with a new proposal that includes Brannstrom heading to the Kings. And since L.A. could realistically challenge for a playoff spot this season, it makes sense they'd roll with NHL-ready players like Vilardi and Brannstrom instead of Turcotte and Clarke, both of whom will likely be in the minors for the next season or two


Sens out: Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Connor Brown (50% retained), NYI's 2022 7th
Sens in: Turcotte, Clarke, Maatta, Quick, L.A.'s 2022 1st

Kings out: Turcotte, Clarke, Maatta, Quick, 2022 1st
Kings in: Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Connor Brown (50% retained), Holtby

Dallas out: Holtby
Dallas in: NYI's 2022 7th


Ottawa pick up a hometown RD prospect with upside in Clarke, a center with top 6 potential in Turcotte, and an unprotected 2022 1st from the Kings. Quick gives them another veteran goalie who's not worth his cap hit, but is owed significantly less in real dollars. Taking Maatta was done for cap reasons, but he can be flipped with retention in order to maximize whatever trade value he may have

Los Angeles pick up a truculent young 1st line winger, a young offensive RD in Brannstrom, and a solid middle 6 winger at a bargain price. They also clear the final 2 seasons of Quick's contract, while Holtby gives them a veteran backup on a 1 year deal

Dallas makes room for Oettinger by erasing the off-season's most baffling signing

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[redcard]

In the last thread you told me how much you want to keep Brandt Clarke, so I listened, and made a new proposal for you to trade Brandt Clarke.

 

[Gavin Ray]

For a disclaimer I dont think a trade between the teams makes much sense but why is this so complicated? LOL just do Tkachuk for replacement player + blue chip prospect + 1st round pick. That's pretty standard. Then include Quick as a cap dump and send a goalie back.

Brady + Forsberg for Iafallo + Kaliyev + 1st (protected) + Quick

 

[KingsHockey24]

Stop it.

 

[Kingspiracy]

I think you need to add more pieces to the trade to fine tune it

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

After hearing from L.A. fans about how excited they are for a young offensive-minded Dman, I've come up with a new proposal that includes Brannstrom heading to the Kings. And since L.A. could realistically challenge for a playoff spot this season, it makes sense they'd roll with NHL-ready players like Vilardi and Brannstrom instead of Turcotte and Clarke, both of whom will likely be in the minors for the next season or two


Sens out: Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Connor Brown (50% retained), NYI's 2022 7th
Sens in: Turcotte, Clarke, Maatta, Quick, L.A.'s 2022 1st

Kings out: Turcotte, Clarke, Maatta, Quick, 2022 1st
Kings in: Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Connor Brown (50% retained), Holtby

Dallas out: Holtby
Dallas in: NYI's 2022 7th


Ottawa pick up a hometown RD prospect with upside in Clarke, a center with top 6 potential in Turcotte, and an unprotected 2022 1st from the Kings. Quick gives them another veteran goalie who's not worth his cap hit, but is owed significantly less in real dollars. Taking Maatta was done for cap reasons, but he can be flipped with retention in order to maximize whatever trade value he may have

Los Angeles pick up a truculent young 1st line winger, a young offensive RD in Brannstrom, and a solid middle 6 winger at a bargain price. They also clear the final 2 seasons of Quick's contract, while Holtby gives them a veteran backup on a 1 year deal

Dallas makes room for Oettinger by erasing the off-season's most baffling signing

Wow. This trade is worse than the last one which is the exact same framework. Good job.

 

[kilowatt]

Everyone: Dallas shouldn't be involved
OP: So Dallas is involved

 

[6stringmofo]

Are you high?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Everyone: Dallas shouldn't be involved
OP: So Dallas is involved

Well, you have to realize, they made the most baffling signing of the offseason in bringing in Holtby, so they simply must be attached to every single proposal so they can undo this grievous error.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Sens return isnt enough for Tkachuk alone with taking Quick back.

 

[Perennial]

Everyone: Dallas shouldn't be involved
OP: So Dallas is involved

This is your contribution to the discussion?

Anybody who's so inclined can head to the other thread and see you're the only one to mention Dallas...

 

[Perennial]

Sens return isnt enough for Tkachuk alone with taking Quick back.

Quick is only owed 3 million in actual money this season, and 2.5 million next year... and his cap hit is hardly problematic for the Sens

The deal essentially breaks down as:

Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Brown...4... Turcotte, Clarke, L.A.'s 2022 1st

Plus, it gives Ottawa an abundance of veteran LD that can be moved for an additional asset or two... especially if they retain salary

 

[GhostfaceWu]

For a disclaimer I dont think a trade between the teams makes much sense but why is this so complicated? LOL just do Tkachuk for replacement player + blue chip prospect + 1st round pick. That's pretty standard. Then include Quick as a cap dump and send a goalie back.

Brady + Forsberg for Iafallo + Kaliyev + 1st (protected) + Quick

Lol you know exactly why they wouldn't do that.

 

[KingTech]

For a disclaimer I dont think a trade between the teams makes much sense but why is this so complicated? LOL just do Tkachuk for replacement player + blue chip prospect + 1st round pick. That's pretty standard. Then include Quick as a cap dump and send a goalie back.

Brady + Forsberg for Iafallo + Kaliyev + 1st (protected) + Quick

The kings would have to send cap back we only have 2.7 in cap space This is the reason i think Matta and Quick are apart of the trade. Lets not pretend brady is signing anything less the 8-9 million

 

[wonton15]

Are you Perenially high?

 

[tkb81]

the best part about this trade proposal is the title, so clever haha

 

[Akrapovince]

Why are the Kings trading a potential #1C, #1D, and realistically a top ten to fifteen pick to push their chips in?

It would not be inconceivable to imagine Turcotte could have a higher impact than Tkachuk, Clarke be more effective than Brannstrom and the pick becoming better with longer team control than Brown.

This is a move Kings make if there’s a gun to their head telling them to win the cup or else. And if that’s the case, there’s a lot of better options out there.

2022 1st round pick
Turcotte
Clarke

is the start of a package that can get you any available player in the league.

 

[robsenz]

Underrated player, should not be moved at all right now imo.

 

[Perennial]

Why are the Kings trading a potential #1C, #1D, and realistically a top ten to fifteen pick to push their chips in?

It would not be inconceivable to imagine Turcotte could have a higher impact than Tkachuk, Clarke be more effective than Brannstrom and the pick becoming better with longer team control than Brown.

This is a move Kings make if there’s a gun to their head telling them to win the cup or else. And if that’s the case, there’s a lot of better options out there.

2022 1st round pick
Turcotte
Clarke

is the start of a package that can get you any available player in the league.

They just signed Doughty to a long term extension not all that long ago... they've got Kopitar for at least another 3 years... they inexplicably signed Danault to a long term deal...they just brought in Edler... they just signed their 26 year old goaltender to a 3 year extension... they traded for Arvidsson... extended Iafallo...

Seems like the Kings have shifted into win-now mode, doesn't it?

It's not like they're acquiring ancient veterans with this deal... Tkachuk and Brannstrom haven't reached their prime yet, and Brown is only 27

Plus, the Kings still have their own young talent ready to contribute in Byfield, Vilardi, Anderson, Bjornfot, and Kaliyev


I can understand the reluctance to pull the trigger on a deal like this, but I actually think it's Ottawa who's taking the bigger gamble

They're giving up young team-controlled talent who have proven they can play at the NHL level... the Kings are not

 

[McJedi]

I really think you’re overrating Brannstrom. He’s no longer considered an elite prospect. More of a B+ type one. Maybe he becomes a 2nd pair level guy. Maybe just third pair. His ceiling doesn’t look very high.

 

[Akrapovince]

They just signed Doughty to a long term extension not all that long ago... they've got Kopitar for at least another 3 years... they inexplicably signed Danault to a long term deal...they just brought in Edler... they just signed their 26 year old goaltender to a 3 year extension... they traded for Arvidsson... extended Iafallo...

Seems like the Kings have shifted into win-now mode, doesn't it?

It's not like they're acquiring ancient veterans with this deal... Tkachuk and Brannstrom haven't reached their prime yet, and Brown is only 27

Plus, the Kings still have their own young talent ready to contribute in Byfield, Vilardi, Anderson, Bjornfot, and Kaliyev


I can understand the reluctance to pull the trigger on a deal like this, but I actually think it's Ottawa who's taking the bigger gamble

They're giving up young team-controlled talent who have proven they can play at the NHL level... the Kings are not

They just signed Doughty and have big contracts. Tell me how elite talent on ELC doesn’t help them win earlier than going for Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Brown?

All those players they re-signed or acquired through free agency, where they DID NOT give up any assets. However, the assets they didn’t give (futures like Turcotte) on their ELC off set the assets they DID give (cap space) for signing Danault, Edler, Doughty

 

[T_Cage]

Yes, the Kings are excited for a young offensive minded D…… so you are trading their best one away and giving them back a worse one??

how can they not be excited about that

 

[Perennial]

They just signed Doughty and have big contracts. Tell me how elite talent on ELC doesn’t help them win earlier than going for Tkachuk, Brannstrom, Brown?

All those players they re-signed or acquired through free agency, where they DID NOT give up any assets. However, the assets they didn’t give (futures like Turcotte) on their ELC off set the assets they DID give (cap space) for signing Danault, Edler, Doughty

This was addressed in the OP...

And since L.A. could realistically challenge for a playoff spot this season, it makes sense they'd roll with NHL-ready players like Vilardi and Brannstrom instead of Turcotte and Clarke, both of whom will likely be in the minors for the next season or two

 

[Perennial]

I really think you’re overrating Brannstrom. He’s no longer considered an elite prospect. More of a B+ type one. Maybe he becomes a 2nd pair level guy. Maybe just third pair. His ceiling doesn’t look very high.

It's certainly possible...

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I really think you’re overrating Brannstrom. He’s no longer considered an elite prospect. More of a B+ type one. Maybe he becomes a 2nd pair level guy. Maybe just third pair. His ceiling doesn’t look very high.

Like a month ago numerous sens fans were claiming he's an elite prospect, so...